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Highest amount of boost


Noremac
02-24-2004, 04:59 PM
subject says it all.. what car/setup and how much..
I've seen dyno charts for an ls-vtec boosted at 29 psi making 647 ponies, but i think thats the highest amount of boost ive seen.

boosted331
02-24-2004, 05:17 PM
Go look at the dyno vid of duc's car on groundzeromotorsports.com, I think it's his 700 WHP vid. Top fuel cars run 40+ PSI, as do diesels, and i've seen a few supras over 40 PSI. What exactly do you want to know.

Noremac
02-24-2004, 09:41 PM
i forget to mention.. honda or acura cars only..

Polygon
02-25-2004, 02:30 PM
Also, what type of forced induction do you want to know about? Boost from a turbo and boost from a super are two different things and can't be measured equally.

Also, boost doesn’t completely equate horsepower, airflow does.

Doubletap
02-25-2004, 09:24 PM
But why, are you really gonna do anything like that or are you just filling up space with lame questions?

DoubleTap

Noremac
02-26-2004, 07:13 AM
Also, what type of forced induction do you want to know about? Boost from a turbo and boost from a super are two different things and can't be measured equally.

Also, boost doesn’t completely equate horsepower, airflow does.

Supercharger or Turbo, either one..
And i never said that it did equate horsepower??

Noremac
02-26-2004, 07:15 AM
But why, are you really gonna do anything like that or are you just filling up space with lame questions?

DoubleTap

I'm not sure i understand your question?? why would i post something like this??

DarkEternal
02-26-2004, 10:35 AM
Don't mind any negative comments. We're just trying to figure out why you want to know how much boost you can run and how much horse you can get.

Do some research on what your LS block can do. If your internals are forged, you shouldn't have a problem running on 20-25psi. You'll probably get anywhere between 300-450hp...not whp, mind you. No matter how many ponies you motor makes, you'll never get them all to the ground. If you're talking supercharger, make sure you have eveything you can cram into your car to help keep that engine cool. You don't want to race an M3 and blow your motor, right? :lol: If you're talking Turbocharger, re-evaluate what you want of your car. If you're gonna run 20psi on a daily driver...I hope you love rebuilding your engine every 30k miles. The bad thing about turbo's are how hot they run. True, there are things you can do to prolong your turbocharged vehicle's life, but you're poisoning/overheating your motor evertime you run over 10psi. Keep in mind, a turbo is feeding your car's exhaust back through the intake. If you can smoke a whole pack of Marlboro Reds while running 2 miles and NOT collapse, boost up! But if you can't do it, don't expect your car to do something comparible. Engines (like humans) NEED fresh air. The more psi you boost with a turbo, the less fresh air your motor's getting, and the more likely it is that your motor will blow.
Don't get me wrong. If you're car is going to be track only, and you have the money for frequent rebuilds; Turbo all the way! Go ahead and boost 28 or 30psi. But if it's your daily driver...consider a supercharger or Nitros if you really want to be force induced.

Either way, it's ultimately your call. A lot of people find turbochargers very rewarding depsite the higher maintains requirements. I'll be the first to admit; the sound of a blow-off valve...I get off on it. Something about it gets me ready to drive to the death.

Do your homework, and findout for yourself what you can and what you don't want to do with your car. Good luck on all your decisions.

tran_nsx
02-26-2004, 11:10 AM
Don't mind any negative comments. We're just trying to figure out why you want to know how much boost you can run and how much horse you can get.

Do some research on what your LS block can do. If your internals are forged, you shouldn't have a problem running on 20-25psi. You'll probably get anywhere between 300-450hp...not whp, mind you. No matter how many ponies you motor makes, you'll never get them all to the ground. If you're talking supercharger, make sure you have eveything you can cram into your car to help keep that engine cool. You don't want to race an M3 and blow your motor, right? :lol: If you're talking Turbocharger, re-evaluate what you want of your car. If you're gonna run 20psi on a daily driver...I hope you love rebuilding your engine every 30k miles. The bad thing about turbo's are how hot they run. True, there are things you can do to prolong your turbocharged vehicle's life, but you're poisoning/overheating your motor evertime you run over 10psi. Keep in mind, a turbo is feeding your car's exhaust back through the intake. If you can smoke a whole pack of Marlboro Reds while running 2 miles and NOT collapse, boost up! But if you can't do it, don't expect your car to do something comparible. Engines (like humans) NEED fresh air. The more psi you boost with a turbo, the less fresh air your motor's getting, and the more likely it is that your motor will blow.
Don't get me wrong. If you're car is going to be track only, and you have the money for frequent rebuilds; Turbo all the way! Go ahead and boost 28 or 30psi. But if it's your daily driver...consider a supercharger or Nitros if you really want to be force induced.

Either way, it's ultimately your call. A lot of people find turbochargers very rewarding depsite the higher maintains requirements. I'll be the first to admit; the sound of a blow-off valve...I get off on it. Something about it gets me ready to drive to the death.

Do your homework, and findout for yourself what you can and what you don't want to do with your car. Good luck on all your decisions.

someone please explain to dark eternal how a turbo application works. im trying to do my math homework and really don't feel like writing a long post, thanks.

tibby01
02-26-2004, 12:48 PM
sorry, got class....

darketernal, just read this....

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/turbo.htm

and please dont try explaining something if you are not ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY SURE you know what you are talking about.

duplox
02-26-2004, 12:48 PM
DarkEternal... please... step AWAY from the turbocharger! you don't know the first thing about them...

casperGSR
02-26-2004, 08:14 PM
DarkEternal... please... step AWAY from the turbocharger! you don't know the first thing about them...

:iceslolan

Listen... if you really are asking this question as far as how much boost a honda motor can handle just do a search in this forum, this topic has been brought up before... but to put it short if you are wanting to run good amounts of boost look into rebuilding your block first cause not only will your stock internals eventually go but your aluminum block won't last too long either and you'll not only be needing new rods, pistons, etc but also a whole new block (obviously depending on how much boost you run, more boost, more damage)... anyways do a search in the forum and by the way you asked the question it seems you're wanting to run serious levels of boost, look into internals first.

Ace$nyper
02-26-2004, 09:11 PM
can u be suprized he uses mainly APC products after reading his post?

Neutrino
02-27-2004, 12:09 AM
Keep in mind, a turbo is feeding your car's exhaust back through the intake.

:disappoin

Noremac
02-27-2004, 08:29 AM
hey guys, i personally am not wanting to run boost. I was just wandering if there was anyone on this board who was running really high boost to see what kind of setup they were running.

Hypsi87
02-27-2004, 11:54 AM
If you can smoke a whole pack of Marlboro Reds while running 2 miles and NOT collapse, boost up! But if you can't do it, don't expect your car to do something comparible. Engines (like humans) NEED fresh air. The more psi you boost with a turbo, the less fresh air your motor's getting, and the more likely it is that your motor will blow.
Don't get me wrong. If you're car is going to be track only, and you have the money for frequent rebuilds; Turbo all the way! Go ahead and boost 28 or 30psi. But if it's your daily driver...consider a supercharger or Nitros if you really want to be force induced.

Either way, it's ultimately your call. A lot of people find turbochargers very rewarding depsite the higher maintains requirements. I'll be the first to admit; the sound of a blow-off valve...I get off on it. Something about it gets me ready to drive to the death.

Do your homework, and findout for yourself what you can and what you don't want to do with your car. Good luck on all your decisions.

HAHAHAHA smoke a pack while running two miles :rofl: sorry that was a gag. Other than that, you need to do some homework. Cirruclulate exhust gas back into your engine? That is an EGR valve not a turbo. A turbo uses exhsust pressure and exhaust heat to spin a turbine which spins an impeller that compresses fresh air. Think about it, exhaust gas is equivlant to carbon dioxide for a human. Would you pump co2 back into your lungs to run harder. Nope you fill your lungs with O2. So why would you put exhaust gas back into your engine to gain power? An EGR valve only opens when you are decelerating to recirculate EXTREMELY rich exhaust gases back into your engine to reburn unburned fuel to help emmisions. A turbo engine is as realiable as the person tuning it. I know it's not a honda but I run 24PSI on pumpgas all the time. I keep my fuel and spark in tune all the time and I monitor everything. (Turbolink version 4.0 is the shit)

Im not trying to be a smart ass or flame you at all. Just wanted to help a bit. We all make mistakes and misundersand all sorts of stuff. Just takes someone elese to tell you how it is. Turst me I still get corrected all the time by the people that taught/still teaching me


Oh and since boosted 331 mentiond diesels. I am going to school to be a caterpillar service tech. We had a 3116 inline six turbocharged diesel that is rated at 200 HP. We had a little contest to see who could get the most HP out of it. I had the fuel cranked up and the boost hovering at about 56 PSI :evillol: . Good thing we don't care if the enigne last awhile.

tibby01
02-27-2004, 12:23 PM
buy the book "MAXIMUM BOOST" by corky bell from amazon.

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