will this work {intake}

its cheap but i think it will work or wont it lol
http://www.airdynamicracing.com/shop/product.phtml?p=15&large=1

its cheap but i think it will work or wont it lol
http://www.airdynamicracing.com/shop/product.phtml?p=15&large=1

Just make a home depot intake

naaa to much work lol

lol your car is hot...i like the interior lights lol cool,,,,nice shift knob too lol

If you wanna be real cheap, take a saw and cut your stock air pipe and put a filter on the end. That is what I did.

But i am going to make a home depot one soon.

And the one in the like will work.But whatever intake you go with, you should buy a better filter. :smile:

Heres a pic...
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/2/web/422000-422999/422143_4_full.jpg

wow your car is hot thats a good idea ill try it

hey do those breathers do any thing diff

I really don't know. I got them for free so i put them on :biggrin: It has to be working cause it is dirty. And it looks nice. :smile:

Where exactly is the MAS in that system? You won't be saving money when you have to buy a new MAS setup because your pipe doesn't include the stock one.

isn't the MAS only on turbo models?

Well I was wondering that for a while, but I know that non-turbo pontiac's have airflow sensors, and I'm 99% sure that all vehicles have some form of sensor like a hot-wire MAS in order to determine how much fuel to add and such.

The 420a's,NT eclipses, do not have a MAS. We do have MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor, and IAT (intake air temp) sensor.

Thanks for clearing that up :)

No problem...
I know MAS are not only for turbo cars, cause my friends mustangs has one, i believe.

although when i put my turbo and everything on i put a MAS on because of the larger injectors, with the S-AFC you need the MAS to program it and make it run! its not necessary to put a MAS on when you put a turbo kit on... only if you plan to run a lot of boost which you would need larger injectors and a AFC!

1gs non turbo have a mas in the air filter.

so am i gonna have a problem hoking something like that up then,,,

No... you will be fine

ok so the intake stinks huh lol ok

hope it works hahahah hey for 29 bucks i cant lose lololol

cool

how do i put pics of my car on this reply

http://promo.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?GetCrossPromos&strsellerid=xoxoparts&seller=66849585&item=2462046378&storecat=1&method=1&view=1&shipdiscount=0&track=MERC_VI

Same one, i think... for 16

Car manufactures can choose to use MAP or hotwire/karmen/flapper type MASs regardless of induction type. The general rule to remember is that the MAS types measure airflow, while the MAP setups just estimate airflow. The MAS will be accurate even after mods that change airflow, but its restrictive. MAP will not necessarily pick up on airflow enhancing mods (bad) but is much less restrictive. Each has its pros and cons. But either can be used, or converted over. For example, turbo DSMs came with Karmen MAS, and I switched over to a LS1 MAF (MAF Translator). Both measure airflow. If you switch to a VPC however, that is a MAP system and estimates flow. Since a DSMer with a VPC is going to be constantly tuning, the drawback of having to retune after each mod isnt even noticeable. Same for turboing a NT car. You should be tuning and logging just like a turbo car owner, so theres no real drawback there.

Just some more ramblings...

I had no idea about the N/A air measuring system, but I know that it doesn't matter the aspiration of a vehicle as to what system it uses.

The MAP measures the amount of air and the density of the air.

i couldnt find the one for 16 but thats mad cheap huh lol wow they cant get cheaper than that lol

oops...
try this one...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38634&item=2462217057

oh my god i already orderd the other one lololol that one looks a little betta,,lol,but hey i only paid 29 for mine so hey lol....besides exaust what else can i do to my gs to make it faster? thanx