The COMPLETE 92-00 Civic Owners Engine Swapping Guide!!
94tegRS
07-15-2004, 09:54 PM
B18C's are vtec.
the A's/B's are non vtec.
and a kid I met a while ago had a H22 in his hatch and didnt complain aboput anything like that, just said it is FUN to drive.
the A's/B's are non vtec.
and a kid I met a while ago had a H22 in his hatch and didnt complain aboput anything like that, just said it is FUN to drive.
94dxhatch
07-16-2004, 08:13 PM
so is the ls engine a vtech or nonvtech and if it isnt a vtech then could a b18c1 head work better then a b16a
thanx paul walker
thanx paul walker
94tegRS
07-16-2004, 09:27 PM
first of all lose the h, were not talking about phones here.
USDM:
90-91 integra B18A 130 HP non VTEC
92-93 integra B18A 140 HP non VTEC
92-93 integra GSR B17A 160 HP VTEC
94+ integra B18B 142 HP non VTEC
94+ integra GSR B18C1 170 HP VTEC
97+ ITR B18C5 195 HP VTEC
the B16 is VTEC and has 160HP.
and it is said the B16 head is better cuz you cant put a B16/ITR manifold on a GSR head and the ITR/B16 manifolds flow better because of less surface area or something like that.
USDM:
90-91 integra B18A 130 HP non VTEC
92-93 integra B18A 140 HP non VTEC
92-93 integra GSR B17A 160 HP VTEC
94+ integra B18B 142 HP non VTEC
94+ integra GSR B18C1 170 HP VTEC
97+ ITR B18C5 195 HP VTEC
the B16 is VTEC and has 160HP.
and it is said the B16 head is better cuz you cant put a B16/ITR manifold on a GSR head and the ITR/B16 manifolds flow better because of less surface area or something like that.
untamedcivic
07-30-2004, 09:25 PM
Awesome article. Really appreciate it. My 93' Civic with a D15B7 is crying for some sort of power increase. But, you don't wanna hear my life story. Thanks again
civicsisisisisi
08-12-2004, 02:47 PM
How much trouble would it be to put an obd0 b16a in my 96 civic?
94tegRS
08-12-2004, 05:10 PM
too much, are you wanting to put in the cable tranny as well?
not to mention it is illegal.
not to mention it is illegal.
GeniusB16A
08-28-2004, 10:22 AM
What r ur thoughts of a B18C block w/ a B16 head?
I read thru the first post and didn't see it mentioned ..
BTW it'll be in a 91 hatch...
I read thru the first post and didn't see it mentioned ..
BTW it'll be in a 91 hatch...
Cobrakessen
09-01-2004, 06:28 AM
Hey im getting a 93 - 95 Civic....i have a few to choose from so whichevers in better condition,but im planning to swap the engine when i get it.I can get a 96 integra gsr engine,but i can get my hands on a 02 RSX typeS engine too.i know anythings possible with money but being no millionare.Is it possible to swap to the RSX K20C engine without have to do much work.like basically all i need to know is will the engine mounts need to be fabricated,will the tranny line up,or should i not bother and go for the gsr engine.the rest ill research myself,talk to mechs and such,i just dont want to go through alot of trouble to find it wont work thanks? :)
Crazy Mustard
09-01-2004, 10:34 PM
what would it take to put an F22B1 from a 94-97 accord EX which is a SOHC @.@ liter V-TEC with 145Hp and about 141FTLB or torque into a 92 civic ? i have the car ready to go and the mottor is just sitting in my shop.. ive never heard of this awap before so are there any mounts? what transmissions will bolt up to the block?anything special that i would have to do other than wiring the v-tec and all that good stuff? any info would help out...thanks
junior40er
09-03-2004, 12:15 PM
I just recently purchased a civic hatch CX model because they tell me it's light weight however the engine sucks. So I need to swap it out. I would like most people preffer the B16A engine. The problem is can I do the whole swap including labor for under $3500 also my other problem is there a way to be legal and pass smog checks. I really need help in this situation. Im tired of gettting spanked by other hatchbacks even though i already put a full cat-back exhaust system and cold air induction.
B16Z6+S20
09-03-2004, 11:36 PM
i think you had it wrong about the D16Z6, its the one that has 127HP@7200RPM not the D16Y
CivicSpoon
09-10-2004, 09:08 PM
Hey im getting a 93 - 95 Civic....i have a few to choose from so whichevers in better condition,but im planning to swap the engine when i get it.I can get a 96 integra gsr engine,but i can get my hands on a 02 RSX typeS engine too.i know anythings possible with money but being no millionare.Is it possible to swap to the RSX K20C engine without have to do much work.like basically all i need to know is will the engine mounts need to be fabricated,will the tranny line up,or should i not bother and go for the gsr engine.the rest ill research myself,talk to mechs and such,i just dont want to go through alot of trouble to find it wont work thanks? :)
Hasport makes mounts. Do a search online for a few write ups on the swap.
what would it take to put an F22B1 from a 94-97 accord EX which is a SOHC @.@ liter V-TEC with 145Hp and about 141FTLB or torque into a 92 civic ? i have the car ready to go and the mottor is just sitting in my shop.. ive never heard of this awap before so are there any mounts? what transmissions will bolt up to the block?anything special that i would have to do other than wiring the v-tec and all that good stuff? any info would help out...thanks
It'd be similar to putting in an H22 (even the same mounts). Do a search on it and you're sure to find something. Especially search for the pinout, because chances are the wiring is a little different.
i think you had it wrong about the D16Z6, its the one that has 127HP@7200RPM not the D16Y
Nope the d16z6 has 125hp and the d16y8 has slightly more hp at 127hp.
Hasport makes mounts. Do a search online for a few write ups on the swap.
what would it take to put an F22B1 from a 94-97 accord EX which is a SOHC @.@ liter V-TEC with 145Hp and about 141FTLB or torque into a 92 civic ? i have the car ready to go and the mottor is just sitting in my shop.. ive never heard of this awap before so are there any mounts? what transmissions will bolt up to the block?anything special that i would have to do other than wiring the v-tec and all that good stuff? any info would help out...thanks
It'd be similar to putting in an H22 (even the same mounts). Do a search on it and you're sure to find something. Especially search for the pinout, because chances are the wiring is a little different.
i think you had it wrong about the D16Z6, its the one that has 127HP@7200RPM not the D16Y
Nope the d16z6 has 125hp and the d16y8 has slightly more hp at 127hp.
roguecivic97
09-29-2004, 10:38 AM
I'm putting a b16a into my 97 civic ex and i need a new a/c compressor. is there any way i can use the d16y8's a/c compressor if i get the b16a bracket for a 95 del sol (DOHC VTEC)?
when i called hmotorsonline, they told me it would, but i just need to make sure.
also... is there anything else that i should know about when doing this swap?
i've already got an OBD2-OBD1 wiring harness from boomslang.us as well as many new parts for the motor. but i'm not quite sure how to wire all of it up and then how this whole air conditioning thing is going to work.
when i called hmotorsonline, they told me it would, but i just need to make sure.
also... is there anything else that i should know about when doing this swap?
i've already got an OBD2-OBD1 wiring harness from boomslang.us as well as many new parts for the motor. but i'm not quite sure how to wire all of it up and then how this whole air conditioning thing is going to work.
bokchoy
09-29-2004, 11:18 AM
that was some cool stuff, it was like being in discovery channel, but for cars....
anyways, I have a 93 del sol and was thinking of engine swap, but the problem was i didnt know what to get, until i read this post. My first thought was just a Bseries swap, but the as i read on i figured the CRVtech thing is really cool, meaning its affordable and gives you a modest amount of power, but my question is, how much does it cost in total for the engine swap with the b16 head?
Thanx for the info
anyways, I have a 93 del sol and was thinking of engine swap, but the problem was i didnt know what to get, until i read this post. My first thought was just a Bseries swap, but the as i read on i figured the CRVtech thing is really cool, meaning its affordable and gives you a modest amount of power, but my question is, how much does it cost in total for the engine swap with the b16 head?
Thanx for the info
ErMaK
10-06-2004, 12:06 AM
I found your post about Engines and Head-swap'n to be very informative, and also very exciting. I plan on doing a D16Z6 head swap on my D15B7, and you have encouraged my intrest in going along with this procedure more. Thanks.
friday86
10-07-2004, 02:41 PM
so... anyone know anyone who's done a K20A engine swap to a 92-00 Civic? if you do, tell me cuz i'm really interested!
GScivic7
10-07-2004, 03:43 PM
Hasport makes the mounts for them already, hope you have the cash to drop on a K20
friday86
10-08-2004, 11:49 AM
how much is it?
GScivic7
10-08-2004, 12:35 PM
www.hasport.com and www.hmotorsonline.com look for yourself
Walker S-10
11-08-2004, 01:30 PM
i was think on put the B1.8A1 in my 95 honda Civic cx wondering about this swap motor mounts and what else i might have to do anyhelp would be great
drumpet15
11-09-2004, 01:13 AM
Wow! I was looking for some info. on engine swaps and I guess I found the right place! This helped me a lot. Thanks for the post!
CivicSpoon
11-12-2004, 03:22 AM
I think the main post at the beginning should be edited to let people know that the H22a doesn't weigh a ton more than the B-series motors. And that it's the way the motor leans that causes the understeer. I didn't realize it was still in the post until I just read this again. It's a complete myth that has gone as far as being published in magazines and books, we should end the misinformation here.
Thenowhereman42
11-19-2004, 05:55 PM
Sorry if this has already been asked, but im looking all over and can't find any info on places that sell D16Z6 motors.
Anyone know a place that sells them? Only place i've found them is eBay so far
Anyone know a place that sells them? Only place i've found them is eBay so far
GScivic7
11-19-2004, 06:14 PM
www.hmotorsonline.com you have to call them about it though. Or your local junkyard, I'm sure you'll be able to find one if you look around your local junkyards.
Thenowhereman42
11-19-2004, 06:58 PM
nearest junkyard is like an hour away half way to Ventura ><
GScivic7
11-19-2004, 07:03 PM
Ouch, well, best bet would be hmotors then. Good people and good service. And they carry motors that aren't listed on their site, they just have the more popular ones listed there.
sergio1775
12-18-2004, 12:15 AM
I know a cople of places where they sell engines in Ca off I-57 and I-91
I have a friend that gave me a D16Z6 engine and I want to put it in my 95 honda civic that has a D15B7. the engine is complet to include the manifolds, and all. now my question is, do I need to change the ECU and how do I do it? or what ealse do I need? is it worth it? I dont realy want it for racing or anything like that but I would like a lil more power going up the Hill.
I have a friend that gave me a D16Z6 engine and I want to put it in my 95 honda civic that has a D15B7. the engine is complet to include the manifolds, and all. now my question is, do I need to change the ECU and how do I do it? or what ealse do I need? is it worth it? I dont realy want it for racing or anything like that but I would like a lil more power going up the Hill.
CivicSpoon
12-18-2004, 12:45 AM
The ECU is on passenger side, pull up the carpet on the side with the door. Take off the metal bracket thing that holds it in. Unplug the plugs and that's it. You'll also need to run wires for VTEC. 2 to the ECU and 1 for ground, check this link out: http://www.hondaswap.com/~pills/obd1guide.html
alpha_wolf
12-30-2004, 11:04 AM
We've come to the conclusion that if you're going cheap, get a Del Sol ECU, if you want to go all out on an ECU that can live on vicariously through your progression of Honda tuning, get the Hondata ECU... Oh yeah, and a note from Beta_Wolf, "GET A B18!!! >=)"... He's crazy, he'll swap a B18 into anything... alpha_wolf out.
pooped out 93
01-16-2005, 09:27 PM
I have read this whole section and i did not see anything about doing a b18a swap in the civic is it possible and how hard would it be?
civicnation425
01-17-2005, 07:40 PM
I have read this whole section and i did not see anything about doing a b18a swap in the civic is it possible and how hard would it be?
Well as many people have said anything is possible (within reason).
here is a b18c, but i am assuming if this works for a swap the b18a will work just as well.
http://www.jspecautosports.com/catalog_product.aspx?prod_id=11
if you scroll down it shows what it fits. so i say go for it.
Well as many people have said anything is possible (within reason).
here is a b18c, but i am assuming if this works for a swap the b18a will work just as well.
http://www.jspecautosports.com/catalog_product.aspx?prod_id=11
if you scroll down it shows what it fits. so i say go for it.
CivicSpoon
01-17-2005, 08:10 PM
:eek7: Swapping in Type R engine isn't the same as swapping in an old LS motor. The B18a is a OBD0 motor that comes with a cable tranny.
But yes you can swap a b18a into your Civic. You'll need to convert it to OBD1 and either get a hydraulic tranny or get the conversion from hasport. If you can't find any info on this swap, search for the b16a SiR ('88-'91) swap and just skip thru the vtec wiring. Also check with your state on whether it's legal for you to swap in an older engine into you car. Some states don't care, but others do (like Cali).
But yes you can swap a b18a into your Civic. You'll need to convert it to OBD1 and either get a hydraulic tranny or get the conversion from hasport. If you can't find any info on this swap, search for the b16a SiR ('88-'91) swap and just skip thru the vtec wiring. Also check with your state on whether it's legal for you to swap in an older engine into you car. Some states don't care, but others do (like Cali).
civicnation425
01-18-2005, 02:26 PM
:eek7: Swapping in Type R engine isn't the same as swapping in an old LS motor. The B18a is a OBD0 motor that comes with a cable tranny.
didnt mean for it to sound as the same swapping, but I just assumed that they both would fit.
didnt mean for it to sound as the same swapping, but I just assumed that they both would fit.
CivicSpoon
01-18-2005, 05:01 PM
Oh I gotcha. Yeah any b-series will fit in wih no problem (other than maybe the old b20something Prelude motor).
s10lowrider27
04-22-2005, 10:40 AM
ok, so you made the perfect thread. lol. anyway, i have a 93 hatch with a 92hp engine. slow slow slow. what engine would bolt directley up with the current tranny which is stock, and give me more power. i know acceleration will be slow still cause the long gears but a little more power would be nice. i also have a budget of like $700, so what can i do? thanks
GScivic7
04-22-2005, 12:00 PM
why don't you go back to the first post and read it again. Your answer is there.
s10lowrider27
04-22-2005, 01:22 PM
yeah, i already read the first post like 54235124 times... i was just asking specific questions and i also didnt see anything at all about using a transmission from a vx model with a different engine like the 130hp d15b or the d16z6 or z1 or whatever it is. i have the the 1.5l vtec. 92hp engine with. sorry if i missed it. it is just easier for me to ask specificly about my car.
CivicSpoon
04-22-2005, 01:43 PM
I already told you in your own thread. You can use the VX transmission on a d15b or d16z6. For the most parts (can't think of any exceptions) any d-series transmission will bolt up to any d-series engine block.
s10lowrider27
04-22-2005, 06:18 PM
yeah, sorry guys, i didnt mean to repeat myself, just like to be reasurred. i forgot to ask if there is anything else i will need to do to make a d series swap work for that. like wiring or anything? swaping out a d15z1 for those of you who dont know. thanks and sorry for the repeat before.
CivicSpoon
04-22-2005, 06:22 PM
Shouldn't be any wiring since your stock engine was prewired for vtec.
s10lowrider27
04-22-2005, 06:40 PM
good, so then basicly i take one engine out and put another in like i was just replacing it, soungs good, thanks, and 1 more question, def. last one lol. will all the engine components like the starter, alt. and what about motor mounts too? do things like that off of the d15z1 engine fit on the other d series engines? sorry for so many ?'s
emetrolB16a2
06-11-2005, 03:50 PM
I am in the middle of putting a B16a2 into my 6th Gen Civic, and the only thing i am woried about is the rear mount. I have read that the rear mount on the D16Y is different than on the B16A2, but no one really says what i need, or what the problem is. Is it the Bracket or the Mount? Also, will the wiring Harnes that is in the car compleatly hook up to the B16? I have the OBD2 to OBD1 wiring harnes, but does everything hook up to the engine the same. any info would be great. E-mail me please.
jcrx
06-29-2005, 05:34 PM
I am in the middle of putting a B16a2 into my 6th Gen Civic, and the only thing i am woried about is the rear mount. I have read that the rear mount on the D16Y is different than on the B16A2, but no one really says what i need, or what the problem is. Is it the Bracket or the Mount? Also, will the wiring Harnes that is in the car compleatly hook up to the B16? I have the OBD2 to OBD1 wiring harnes, but does everything hook up to the engine the same. any info would be great. E-mail me please.
6th gen CIivc with a B series = 99-00 Si rear bracket, you'll have an issue with the altenator, two wire to three wire, or vise versa, I forget, and why do you have an OBD II->OBD I harness? B16A2 should be the 99-00 Si motor and it's OBD IIb.
6th gen CIivc with a B series = 99-00 Si rear bracket, you'll have an issue with the altenator, two wire to three wire, or vise versa, I forget, and why do you have an OBD II->OBD I harness? B16A2 should be the 99-00 Si motor and it's OBD IIb.
tmramsburg
08-03-2005, 09:56 PM
what about the dohc zc swap
CivicSpoon
08-03-2005, 10:34 PM
what about the dohc zc swap
It'd fit in with the d16z6/y8 swap, with no vtec.
It'd fit in with the d16z6/y8 swap, with no vtec.
twisted_intentions
10-12-2005, 01:28 AM
ook i read all 8 pages and nothing covered this...im getting a 95 ex coupe..blown motor..$200..now if i get it i can get my hands on a b18a1 motor & tranny...does the motor bolt right up..does the tranny bolt right in place... do i need to mess with any of the wiring at all ...is it just plug n play??..please give me a detailed response because i really need to kno ....u dont come across deals like this every day...
ZedEx
10-13-2005, 01:49 AM
The transmission is cable... You'll need a B18B Transmission. Honestly, I'd just go with GSR or B16 Transmission, as they are closer ratio.
However, if you plan on going with boost, the LS Tranmission's gears are wider, thus are better for boost.
Just depends on what you're going for.
-Wes
However, if you plan on going with boost, the LS Tranmission's gears are wider, thus are better for boost.
Just depends on what you're going for.
-Wes
kidlongcut
10-26-2005, 09:52 PM
I want to swap my stock engine for a vtec engine here is what i found looking around for the last few days.I found a type-R B16B DOHC VTEC
190 hp@7600
torque 2116 lb-ft@7300
redline 8200 rpm
displacment 159cc
compression ratio 10.4:1
This alos comes with a type hydraulic transmission
list of parts included
complete motor
block
intake manifold
complete head
sensors
exhaust manifold
fuel rail
injectors
distributor
throttle body
alternator
starter
ignition wires
a/c compressor
power steering pump
headers
obd2 ecu ( computer )
5 speed fwd hydraulic LSD transmission with clutch components assembled to engine
engine mounts
yonaka motorsports drive shafts
I want to know if this would be the best swap for my civic the price on the setup above is 4500.00 plus shipping .I have around 10 k to spend on the motor as of right now i may invest more than this in the future.I will install the motor with friend at his shop to save me the cost .
I want to know what upgrades i should do on the motor first to get the most out of it if someone could help me out here it sure would help me out a lot .
thx guys :banghead:
190 hp@7600
torque 2116 lb-ft@7300
redline 8200 rpm
displacment 159cc
compression ratio 10.4:1
This alos comes with a type hydraulic transmission
list of parts included
complete motor
block
intake manifold
complete head
sensors
exhaust manifold
fuel rail
injectors
distributor
throttle body
alternator
starter
ignition wires
a/c compressor
power steering pump
headers
obd2 ecu ( computer )
5 speed fwd hydraulic LSD transmission with clutch components assembled to engine
engine mounts
yonaka motorsports drive shafts
I want to know if this would be the best swap for my civic the price on the setup above is 4500.00 plus shipping .I have around 10 k to spend on the motor as of right now i may invest more than this in the future.I will install the motor with friend at his shop to save me the cost .
I want to know what upgrades i should do on the motor first to get the most out of it if someone could help me out here it sure would help me out a lot .
thx guys :banghead:
CivicSpoon
10-26-2005, 10:02 PM
Don't get the b16b, they are insanely over priced. Go with the b18c1 (especially it's jdm counterpart) and build that up. The b18c has 5 less hp than the b16b (which has 185hp), but has a little more torque. It's also around $1,000 cheaper.
CIVICJDMZC
10-28-2005, 01:30 AM
It'd fit in with the d16z6/y8 swap, with no vtec.
why would you swapd16z6.......i have Zc non vtec is that the same????
why would you swapd16z6.......i have Zc non vtec is that the same????
tn_viper
12-06-2005, 09:39 PM
New to imports and have few questions. I just got a B16A2 or think it is. Not sure how to tell if it is an A or A2. Supposed to be a complete swap, with engine, tranny, ECU, linkage,wiring harness, and half shafts. Looks like no A/C, power steering, or alternator brackets. What all will I need to get this in my car? Putting it in a 97 Civic LX with a D16. Also I have a header on the D16, does anyone know if this will work on the B16?
Thanks
Thanks
pirk
07-09-2006, 10:34 AM
I put a B20/with B18 vtec head in a 1995 Honda civic. In your posting I see that you only talk about the the B16 head. Is the B18 head not a good choice?
CivicSpoon
07-10-2006, 01:56 PM
The B18c heads are just as good as the b16a.
C2Z06
07-24-2006, 01:30 PM
Any experience or stories regarding swapping any of the K20 motors into Civics? Ideally I'd want to keep it in the supreme RSX platforms, but this question is more for curiosity's sake.
pica100000
09-16-2006, 10:44 AM
The only engines discussed that have near perfect R/S ratios are the B16A and B16B. The rest (including the B20) have to be destroked to achieve the numbers. With the B20 what you do is get a crankshaft from a B17 and custom length rods. There you've changed both the rod length and rod stroke length. To do the same to your D16 you need to crunch some numbers and find out how to change the crankshaft (possibly by getting another shaft from another honda) and then figuring out how long the rod needs to be. Like I said, it gets really technical and this case, very expensive. You're more or less designing your own engine dynamics. It'd be alot cheaper to just get a B16. As for the block gaurd, yes this would definitly help. But if you want to make SO much power from that engine that the R/S ratio is an issue to you, the block guard was already neccesary even with a good R/S ratio. Get my point?
about that r/s ratio 1.75 i have achieved that with a b20,but with a dart tall block. i kept the crank stroke of 3.5 the b20 has. i used eagles 5.967
length rods and it worked out great at the top of the block with a very good
quench area. doing the math i believe that comes to about 1.71 without having to destroke. thats very close to 1.75.
about that r/s ratio 1.75 i have achieved that with a b20,but with a dart tall block. i kept the crank stroke of 3.5 the b20 has. i used eagles 5.967
length rods and it worked out great at the top of the block with a very good
quench area. doing the math i believe that comes to about 1.71 without having to destroke. thats very close to 1.75.
e1 ka
12-03-2006, 12:41 PM
just new here can some1 here who live in p'cola or milton area can help me? just bought a 92 hatch n want 2 make it strong thnks
pica100000
12-28-2006, 02:34 PM
sure i can help you best i can. i can help you with some questions, but
if your looking for hands on help might b able to help. i quess for starters
what engine do u have in your 92 hatch.
if your looking for hands on help might b able to help. i quess for starters
what engine do u have in your 92 hatch.
KoDKingVegeta
12-29-2006, 08:50 PM
Im kinda stupid, after reading all that I still cant figure out if a 1995 Honda Civic 1.6 SOHC Motor/package, would fit into my 1989 Honda Civic Sedan DX. All I need is a yes or a no. If its a yes sumone point me to a web site that I can get new motor mounts at. I have everything else I need. And what serious is the 95 1.6 SOHC? D16?
CivicSpoon
12-29-2006, 08:58 PM
You didn't find out the info you were looking for because this is the '92-'00 swap guide, nothing to do with '88-'91 swaps. But yes it will fit in there. There is a ton of info over at the 4th gen forum, you should search around there. And the '92-'95 civic sohc vtec engine is the D16Z6.
KoDKingVegeta
12-29-2006, 09:25 PM
You didn't find out the info you were looking for because this is the '92-'00 swap guide, nothing to do with '88-'91 swaps. But yes it will fit in there. There is a ton of info over at the 4th gen forum, you should search around there. And the '92-'95 civic sohc vtec engine is the D16Z6.
Thanks alot.
Thanks alot.
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