96 Accord Governer

On a recent road trip to Atlanta I had to pleasure of running into a couple of Integra's on the Freeway, anyways we all decided to push our cars a little and once my car hit 110 or so my governer kicked in and I was left in the dust by my new friends. Basically what im asking is does anybody know how to remove the governer?????????

I too have a 96 LX and my governor kicked in at 110. You can get your ECU reprogrammed but you won't go that much faster if your tires and besides it isn't that cheap either to get a few more mph top speed.

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My car hit some sort of governor/rev limiter at an indicated 138 MPH. It like made this quick buzzing sound, which bumped it back down to like 135, then it hit 138 again and did the same thing. I think the engine was turning like 5200 RPM in 5th gear. I reached this on a slight downhill, the car wont do anymore than 134 or so in a straight line. Im sure this isnt the actual speed, but thats what the speedo says. Drift would probably know more about this, but im pretty sure that its a rev limiter, or possible a fuel cutoff which happens at a certain RPM in top gear.

I was trying to see ho fast i could go tonight and i hit about 105 but it seems to accel very slowly up to 105. is that cause of the gov or will it stil accellerate at that rate with out the gov???

all Hondas are governed at 200km/h, about 120mph. the only exception i know of would be the Prelude and ITR... they arent governed. my prelude has no governor... i've redlined 5th gear.

i heard some American built Hondas are also without governor... but my Accord is US built, but is also governed.

they incorporate a fuel cutoff. once you reach the governed speed, fuel is cut by the ECU. you can have this programming removed by any of many chip reprogrammers. the best known and arguably the cheapest would probably be Jet.

if you were to have an ungoverned vehicle, the top speed would be regulated only by gearing and motor output. maybe your gearing would be too low for your motor's output, and reach top gear redline even tho your car is still pulling (the case with my Prelude).

if your motor doesnt have enough output, and gearing is not a limiting factor, you'll hit a point where the motor cannot overcome the force of air as you travel, thus drag becoming the limiting factor.

Originally posted by 5speedaccord
I was trying to see ho fast i could go tonight and i hit about 105 but it seems to accel very slowly up to 105. is that cause of the gov or will it stil accellerate at that rate with out the gov???


governors dont gradually slow your acceleration... that's drag slowing you down.

The 01 Accords have the governor set at 95 mph. sucks doesnt it?

They have governer bypass things that run about a hundred bucks. I'm not sure where you can get it though.

Originally posted by 1989 DX R
The 01 Accords have the governor set at 95 mph. sucks doesnt it?

I would need to see some proof before I believe that. No offense.

Well, i cannot offer proof like a picture, but my dad's 01 has the governor set at 95.

He was driving west Texas, and wanted to save some time and test the car, it was only 12000 miles old. He has never experienced a governor, but he described it as "I hit 95 and then i couldnt go faster. I had plenty of rpms left, and pushed the pedal all the way, but it stuck at 95."


Thats all the proof i can offer. Its a 2001 LX Sedan, so maybe trim levels have something to do with it?

thats really weird. i have a 98 lx and it doesnt cut out until an INDICATED 138. maybe the 2001's have their ecu's programmed differently. also, this could be way off, but was it a rental car before he got it? cause often times rental companies limit their cars as to how high they can rev and how fast they go.

ECU re programming seem to be the likely answer. 110 mph is the fastest I've gone in my Accord and when I tried to go faster it seem to accelerate really slow. So I just discontinued trying to pull a higher speed. Does anyone know the top speed of a 90 Accord LX and when the gov kits in?

Originally posted by JasonAccord98LX
thats really weird. i have a 98 lx and it doesnt cut out until an INDICATED 138. maybe the 2001's have their ecu's programmed differently. also, this could be way off, but was it a rental car before he got it? cause often times rental companies limit their cars as to how high they can rev and how fast they go.


He bought it brand spankin new with only 18 miles on the clock. Probably is the ecu programming.

Just topped my wife's 93 accord today!! 115mph..... But it seemed to be pulling the gear pretty good!!! I think I could hit 125+ Without the gov!!! Yes you can call me crazy!!! The car is slow off the line but after that it's a train!!! LOL :cool:

My 91 Accord EX cut off at 124 mph. i got up to that on the PA turnpike while i was racing my friend in his Mustang 5.0. but the 91's top out at 130 anyway so im not sure if you would call that a governer problem or not, but when i hit about 100 or so it took really long to get up t 124. it felt like a good 3 miles or maybe even more.

At a high speed like that i doubt it's the govenor. I think it's the fuel cutoff. if you want to have more top speed then buy a B&M fuel pressure regulator with more boost than stock. Other than that i dont know much about the govenor itself. :(

I have a B & M Fuel Pressure Regulator. I thought fuel cutoff was determined by the ecu. As discussed earlier. So, guys which is it ecu, or fpr?

yeah seriously, what is it???

I am pretty sure that the ECU is responsible for the speed cutoff, but I could be mistaken.

They should stop screwing around with that sh*t. Imports are made for racing, specially honda thats basically all they make are cars to hook up and race. They need to just let the engine alone and let it go full power.

Originally posted by AccordEX9191
They should stop screwing around with that sh*t. Imports are made for racing, specially honda thats basically all they make are cars to hook up and race. They need to just let the engine alone and let it go full power.

no, that is not all honda does. its mostly the people who buy the cars that get them involved in racing. most of hondas sales consist of family cars--e.g. the accord Honda also focuses a lot on and comuter cars that are good on the environment--e.g. the civic and the insight. If they were concerned about racing alone, they would make stock civics that are actually fast without modification. If honda was super concerned with speed, then they would enter a war that they have been all but invited to partake in--a horsepower war with nissan. Honda builds cars along the lines of what makes them sell--unfortunately to performance enthusiasts, these lines are based on family features. They dont put a manual in a V6 accord because they dont need to to sell it. the accord sells because it appeals to many families because of its comfort, room, space. If they gave the accord a 255 horsepower V6 with a 5 speed transmission, a bone jarring sport suspension, etc. the car would appeal less to the family(which is its biggest market as i said before) and its sales would dramatically decrease.

When thinking logically it would seem that the ECU is in control of the fuel system cutoff. After all the fuel pressure regulator isn't hooked up to anything electronic. So how would it (the fpr) know when to starve the engine for fuel? Besides mine is adjustable to increase pressure when needed. I won't go to far with this dribble, but I vote for the ECU being the brains of the outfit.

I havea 2002 Acord ex 5spd, and I have not had it long enough to feel comfortabel to go super fast, but I have had it long enough to find out that first gear is good to 32mph, second is good to 63mph, third gear is good until 100mph, and I havent pushed it past 110 in fourth, but I amsure that it goes up to about 135/140mph. since there was so much rpms left in fourth let alone fifth. When I find out what fourth is good to I will post again.

Marc

Originally posted by carguyss
I havea 2002 Acord ex 5spd, and I have not had it long enough to feel comfortabel to go super fast, but I have had it long enough to find out that first gear is good to 32mph, second is good to 63mph, third gear is good until 100mph, and I havent pushed it past 110 in fourth, but I amsure that it goes up to about 135/140mph. since there was so much rpms left in fourth let alone fifth. When I find out what fourth is good to I will post again.

Marc

4th is good for just under and indicated 130 when you turn the 6300rpm redline. 5th is worth basically nothing, i got mine up to about and indicated 138 and it hit a rev limiter, killing the speed. but it wasnt good for any faster anyhow.

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It is in the ECU there is a chip that tell the fuel sytem that's fast enough!! If you want to spend the $$$ and find out how fast you can go try theese two sites!!! :D
www.specjdm.com and
www.superchips.com
Somebody with some money buy one and tell if it is worth!!! ;)

I am currently running a Venom 400 piggy back ecu system in my 90 LX. It does give the car a more spirited acceleration.
When I looked at the Superchips link that was posted, it said that pre-91 Hondas would use a Superchip ICON. Which is basically the same thing as the Venom.
Well anyway this morning on the way to work I got the LX up to 118 mph before my governor kit in. Now I am baffled as to any computer upgrade being able to cancel out this fuel cutoff thing.
Jet chip and Superchip do promise increased performance in the mid and upper rpm ranges. But, so far niether has mentioned the governor being over ridden.

Any clues on what I should do next?

Umm well for starters see if you can returnt he venom , I used to haeva saturn til I totalted it and in that car al it woudl do (prob al it does in any car actualy) is trick the car into thinking that it is in full throttle all the time. IT doesnt actually add any HP to the car, and they say it brings the power in sooner cause by making the car think that it is on full throttle it is the same as if you just floored it every time you accelerated. Do you notice any gas milage decreases, like 1-3 MPG at least. I am curious cause I have never heard anyone who though thtat it was worth the money they spent.

Marc

Gas mileage has never been a concern of mine, at this time. When I purchased the V 400 I knew that in order for my car to perform that I would lose a few mpg's. If I owned a Vette or a Viper, I would get maybe 12 to 16 mpg. So I have a lot a room to play with. The V 400 never promised to raise my top speed, and neither does the Jet Peformance or Superchip. So why is it that they get the knod over the V 400?

i did 130 tonight here in cali in my 96 V6 accord (intake, Venom 400, nothing exciting) "racing" around with a focus sedan. poor focus. he was left behind after about 105. ive never tried to go faster than 130 yet, i will though. so far no sign of fuel cut or governor. i know my rev limit is 7k.

I'm sure they will take your advice to heart since it has been almost 3 YEARS since this question was posted or replied to :screwy: