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Altezza powered Impreza 2004


Initial_D
02-18-2004, 02:17 PM
Hi guys,
Recently I bought a Subaru Impreza 2004 and I have done more than 65000km with it due to my daily driving to my work.
I work in a gas plant, which located far away from my house (( about 140km from me house )) and I’m sure that I will lose the engine just in the next two yeast (( and my work worth it )). My plan is to fit an Altezza RS200 engine + the 6 speed transmission into my car, and convert it to RWD Impreza! I think it will be a lot of fun to have Altezza powered Impreza specially when they have the same displacement but with higher rev for the Altezza RS200, so my question is, Could this be done to my car? I popped up the hood to see if there is enough space for the 3SGE engine and I’m sure that it can fit in my Impreza without any problem. Did any one have done this before? And how much would that cost me if I`m going to import the engine and the transmission + the rear Diff from Japan?

freakray
02-18-2004, 03:24 PM
But why would you want to do this to an Impreza?

Somehow I am not sure the engine will fit under the hood anyhow, at least not without some work to the mounts and other bracing and supports.

LjasonL
02-18-2004, 06:29 PM
I thought this was gonna be about taillights :rolleyes:

You could do it, but it would probably cost a fortune and take a year to complete. Which really makes you wonder... why? You can convert what you have to RWD if that's all you want, and you can swap in the 6 speed if that's what you want. It makes no sense to spend all that time and money when you're not really gaining anything.

ragnarok
02-18-2004, 09:31 PM
Why? If you want a high reving motors, by some new cylinder heads from cobbtuning, 8500 rpm redline which is more than enough for a wrx. Say you were gonna do the engine swap, why do it to a 2004, do it to like a 98 or something, much cheaper. The beauty of Subaru's are..........they're AWD.

keita
02-19-2004, 12:23 AM
I seriously doubt that anyone has done such a conversion. I'm sure that you CAN do it with unjustifiable amount of time and expense. As to your motive, I have to agree with everyone else...WHY??

65,000 KM? C'mon, that's not much for a Subaru. When you read their magazine, "DRIVE", you read about these people who are going three, four, and five hundred thousand MILES on their Subaru's. It appears that they eventually require a new transmission after 250,000 miles or so, but you don't hear much about engine failing on you after a few 100,000 KMs, or miles for that matter.

As to why you want to insult your Subaru by making it RWD and further humiliate it by putting in a Toyota engine instead of a beautiful, turbo-charged, boxer four, that is beyond me....

Initial_D
02-19-2004, 05:14 PM
:uhoh: guys, Subaru is unknown in my country , and my impreza not a turbo wrx . my car is 2.0 SOHC :banghead:(( see my GD9 thread)) so it's only making 125 hp@5500 rpm. :shakehead if u asked me why I didn't buy a wrx then ?
:( cuz impreza in my country comes only with the 2.0 SOHC ,so we don't have WRX or STi ,,,,, even the RS model we don't have :banghead: fuuuuck Subaru dealer I like the STi but what can I do if it's not available ..
Toyota are famous here specially the altezza rs200 (( 2.0 DOHC with 210 hp))
so that's why I want the 3SGE :headshake but I'm not sure if it can fit well in my car? I have 9000$ now but I'm not sure if it is enough to buy the engine with the gears and the rear Diff!!

ragnarok
02-19-2004, 08:07 PM
Buy a ej20 from a wrecked wrx or new from dealership, i can get jdm parts for my car from them.

F23A4Racer750IL
02-22-2004, 05:34 PM
then dont get an impreza. get something else. wat country u from.

Initial_D
02-22-2004, 06:31 PM
Uae
:-)

F23A4Racer750IL
02-22-2004, 07:28 PM
is that like a pacific island or somethin

freakray
02-22-2004, 08:20 PM
is that like a pacific island or somethin

United Arab Emirates.

It's in the Middle East on the Persian Gulf, friendly neighbour to Saudi Arabia and Oman.

scottb2004
02-25-2004, 01:27 PM
this thread crax me up. lol just oddity of it.

while you're at it with the altezza engine...why don't you put a big block V8 in it and some sort of hover device? lol i'm joking, but it's about as practical.

why not sell the impreza or trade it in and get an altezza if you want that engine so bad? $9000 isn't gonna do much for you with what you're talking about. also i agree with everyone else....AWD!

Reed
02-25-2004, 01:32 PM
seriously, with $9000 you could twin turbo a 350 and throw it in a fiero or something, and that would destroy any impreza in the 1/4 mi. (I'm asuming that would would convert to rwd for drag racing)

jon@af
02-25-2004, 02:15 PM
seriously, with $9000 you could twin turbo a 350 and throw it in a fiero or something, and that would destroy any impreza in the 1/4 mi. (I'm asuming that would would convert to rwd for drag racing)
Well, that's all well and good, but we aren't discussing what would destroy the car he HAS, we're discussing engines.

Reed
02-26-2004, 04:13 PM
Alright lets talk about engines. Its gonna be funny when you see an impreza cruizing down the road with the valve cover and cam pully sticking out of where a hood scoop should be. Inline fours dont generally fit where a flat fours do.

I was being sarcastic about the fiero, although it would probably be a pretty ripping car, its just funny to try to convert a rally car into a drag car. Or maybe he just wants to fit in with the drift fad.

Zwrangler
02-26-2004, 04:46 PM
Hey dude you live in the UAE... I live in the UAE too. Are you around sharjah or dubai??? In the industrial area in Sharjah I know this place which I think is a car parts dealer and he's always got many exotics like subaru wrx STI's and altezza Is200's and such. but man its gonna cost you a lot to do an engine swap let alone fnid someone that can do it. A friend of mine just did an engine swap in his crx, He put a B18C5 engine in it from an integra type r. he had it done by a mechanic in dubai adn I think it cost him around 5000-7000 dirhams for installation and 13000 dirhams for the engine itself. Its got around the same specs you're looking for since it pushes 200hp and revs really high with the v-tec.

There are many good mechanics around in Dubai, the only problem is that they're hard to find. If you check the "auto trader" which you can get from any Emirates station they sometimes have ads for performance mechanics. contact them and they'll give you an idea of the costs if you're serious about the engine swap. BUT!!!! be warned, my friend had to have his car in the shop for 3 months. he had no car for 3 whole months.... Sheesh with all these problems why don't yuo just turbo charge it man. The mechanics in Dubai do a lot of turbocharging so it wouldn't be a probelm for them. BUt if you're insistent on an engine swap then anything is possible man. I've even heard of a corolla thats got a twin turbo supra engine in it :biggrin: so anything is possible, just find the right mechanic or ask em and i'll ask my friend if you want. Hope i've helped.

Zwrangler
02-26-2004, 04:47 PM
Hey dude you live in the UAE... I live in the UAE too. Are you around sharjah or dubai??? In the industrial area in Sharjah I know this place which I think is a car parts dealer and he's always got many exotics like subaru wrx STI's and altezza Is200's and such. but man its gonna cost you a lot to do an engine swap let alone fnid someone that can do it. A friend of mine just did an engine swap in his crx, He put a B18C5 engine in it from an integra type r. he had it done by a mechanic in dubai adn I think it cost him around 5000-7000 dirhams for installation and 13000 dirhams for the engine itself. Its got around the same specs you're looking for since it pushes 200hp and revs really high with the v-tec.

There are many good mechanics around in Dubai, the only problem is that they're hard to find. If you check the "auto trader" which you can get from any Emirates station they sometimes have ads for performance mechanics. contact them and they'll give you an idea of the costs if you're serious about the engine swap. BUT!!!! be warned, my friend had to have his car in the shop for 3 months. he had no car for 3 whole months.... Sheesh with all these problems why don't yuo just turbo charge it man. The mechanics in Dubai do a lot of turbocharging so it wouldn't be a probelm for them. BUt if you're insistent on an engine swap then anything is possible man. I've even heard of a corolla thats got a twin turbo supra engine in it :biggrin: so anything is possible, just find the right mechanic or ask me and i'll ask my friend if you want. Hope i've helped.

LjasonL
02-26-2004, 05:59 PM
he had no car for 3 whole months....

It took them 3 months to do a type r swap in a CRX??? I know people who could do it in a weekend in their home garage!

Zwrangler
02-27-2004, 10:56 AM
It took them 3 months to do a type r swap in a CRX??? I know people who could do it in a weekend in their home garage!

yeah I know. I mentioned that it took 3 months because I wanted him to realise that if he takes it to the wrong mechanic it can cost him a lot of time withuot a car. of course it could've been done in a weekend but these guys were really slow and took his car before all the parts needed for the conversion arrived. If a mechanic had done that to me I woulda demanded a courtesy car at least not to mention a big discount for doing without myc ar for 3 months. My friend didn't do either, it was his mistake not to look for a better mechanic from the start. Find a good emchanic who knows absolutely everything that needs to be done for the conversion and you'll be back behind the seat in no time.

Initial_D
02-27-2004, 04:35 PM
:sly: so can u tell me where I can find the best mechanic there??
why don't yuo just turbo charge it
:eek7: I don’t like the sound that comes out from the turbo, also I want to go more than 8000 rpm N/A
:smokin: and if there is any engine that can rev up to 10000 rpm :loser: I’ll buy it and put it in my impreza !!

Zwrangler
02-28-2004, 01:53 AM
:sly: so can u tell me where I can find the best mechanic there??

:eek7: I don’t like the sound that comes out from the turbo, also I want to go more than 8000 rpm N/A
:smokin: and if there is any engine that can rev up to 10000 rpm :loser: I’ll buy it and put it in my impreza !!

I'm not 100% sure but i think some of the V-tec engines like the b18c5 and such rev up to 8900 rpm. Believe me you'll have a lot of fun in a b18c5 powered car. my friends crx is a freakin rocket.

check out this site for a few specs.
http://www.hybridautomotive.com/parts/swaps.html

OF course i'm sure you could squeeze somthing even better under the hood like an sr20det but i'm not sure if you could find one here in the emirates but i'm sure you could arrange to ship one. hope i've helped.

Initial_D
02-28-2004, 04:02 PM
:sly: honda are FWD ,but would the b18c5 fit in my car and convert it to RWD impreza or even AWD b18c5 powered impreza !! it would be cool but I want some god mechanic to do it.
it's my only car :disappoin

Zwrangler
02-29-2004, 03:01 AM
I talked to my friend and he said you can find an EJ20 from a wrx if you look in wreckers around sharjah. I'll try and be specific and I'll ask him which wrecker exactly next time i see him. as for mechanics, well theres a few performance mechanics around dubai. I don't know which ones are better than the other though so give them a ring and see what they have to say adn what kind of work they've done on cars in the past, that way you can judge for yourself. Heres a few performance mechanic shop names:

One Thousand Dunes garage ph: 04 3385012 (these guys do everything from painting to performance parts)

Performance group ph: 04 3395030 (check their website at www.performancedubai.com ) I've heard nothing but good things about these guys and as far as I know they're the biggest in Dubai in terms of performance mechanics. I think even a few sheikhs take their modified cars there.

hope i've helped.

Alldar
02-29-2004, 07:36 AM
can i ask you why do you want the impreza so damn bad??? i dream of an sti every day... i want the sti so bad but i would not switch the whole engine out!!!! btw you can Drift an STi since it has the driver’s control centre-differential ... since you seem to want to do that... (Initial D) btw if subie isnt well known in your country why not teach them the beauty of AWD ;)

Zwrangler
02-29-2004, 09:09 AM
can i ask you why do you want the impreza so damn bad??? i dream of an sti every day... i want the sti so bad but i would not switch the whole engine out!!!! btw you can Drift an STi since it has the driver’s control centre-differential ... since you seem to want to do that... (Initial D) btw if subie isnt well known in your country why not teach them the beauty of AWD ;)

The subaru isn't well known in this country because everyone drives the latest bmw, mercedes's and 4wd's. Not to mention that subaru has no dealerships at all (that i can think of) in this country. Plus no one would spend their money on Subaru wrx or STI here coz Subaru doesn't market their cars here and some people don't even know what a subaru is. You have to remember that Subaru only became popular and famous a few years ago with its astonishing wrx, whereas car makers like honda and toyota have been around for a long time. Subaru wrx's are really really really dirt cheap if they can be found here, but i think theres only a handful or so in the country.

actually i remember seeing a fully modified 2000 model 11.5 second, 500+hp wrx for sale. I think it woulda gone for around $24000 U.S.

F23A4Racer750IL
02-29-2004, 11:13 AM
:sly: honda are FWD ,but would the b18c5 fit in my car and convert it to RWD impreza or even AWD b18c5 powered impreza !! it would be cool but I want some god mechanic to do it.
it's my only car :disappoin

Honda Tuning magazine did a project where they converted a Integra GSR into a AWD. they used a AWD CRV transmission. it could be done it takes alot of time, money, and a very good mechanic. and it seems where u live thats gonan be hard to find.

keita
03-02-2004, 01:49 AM
I've found a couple of engines that can do 10,000 RPM and you can
fit them with "some" mofification to your Impreza.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26437&item=2463056837

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=26437&item=2463056339

scottb2004
03-02-2004, 12:32 PM
yeah those engines will be easy to get in that imprezza....but why put it "in" the imprezza...why not just duct tape it to the top or side? lol

Initial_D
03-05-2004, 11:59 PM
:) okay , can I find an 3sge engine from an altezza rs200 with it's 6 speed gear and the rear diff if I looked in wreckers around sharjah or dubai ...? how much do u think it would cost ?? :sly:

ragnarok
03-06-2004, 05:39 AM
On ebay they just had a JDM 02 WRX motor with 6speed tranny for just under $2,000 and like 30k on the motor, might wanna look around on there. I've gotten plenty of parts on ebay and all have worked great.

ragnarok
03-06-2004, 05:45 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2464663205&category=33615

Initial_D
03-07-2004, 04:00 PM
I like that engine ,but there is no shipping method for UAE

StupidBrodie
03-10-2004, 12:03 AM
i was in the UAE i saw all kinds of nice cars down there... including an STI and an EVO... of course theres a lot of money floating around down there too...

my point is that its possible to get a EJ20

F23A4Racer750IL
03-10-2004, 04:45 PM
yea thats a huge oil country rite??

Zwrangler
03-14-2004, 11:25 AM
yea thats a huge oil country rite??

yes, yes it is. there so much money floating around this place its not funny. post 1996 Mercedes's and landcruisers are the most common cars on the streets here.

Initial_D
03-14-2004, 07:37 PM
Do u think that I can use Sti suspension and roll-bars and any performance parts that made for sti can be fit in my N/A impreza, cuz I'm going to start my project in this summer?
see www.nismo.com they have all the parts that I wanted?? do thay fit in my 2004 if I ordered them online from jap,,!

LjasonL
03-16-2004, 01:44 PM
Do u think that I can use Sti suspension and roll-bars

Yes

and any performance parts that made for sti

Depends on the part

Initial_D
03-16-2004, 05:07 PM
Yes
:smile: so you say if I ordered CUSCO Strut Bars, ZERO SPORTS Stabilizers and TEIN Suspension which made for STi can also fit in my 2.0 N/A impreza :uhoh: but I'm really afraid of wasting my money on something that may not fit ??
:eek7: are you 100% sure cuz you know these parts not so cheap!!
:smokin: as for the engine I decided to go with 3sge((3ed generation)) with it's 6 speed M/T :disappoin but I have to wait till my engine blew :evillol: ??? Then I go for it.......

Zwrangler
03-17-2004, 03:53 AM
if you're so worrried the parts won't fit then just ask the people you're buying the parts from. They should fit anyway coz an NA impreza and a WRX are both from the same production line and have the same base, only different suspension, engine and a few other minorities, but the body is produced on the same line.

good stuff on the 3sge. how much did it cost you in dirhams by the way?? Thos engines can really be tuned to produce a lot of power.

Initial_D
03-17-2004, 01:42 PM
how much did it cost you in dirhams by the way??

:sly: I haven't bought it yet and I have no idea how much ,but I think it would cost around 15000 to 25000 dirhams .. :smile: my 1st target in this summer is to tune up my car chasses and handling to match the power of 3sge in the future..
:sunglasse I'm not in hurry in tuning my car cuz u know its still new so I will go slowly ,and my project will be finished in 2006 summer ..

Zwrangler
03-17-2004, 03:06 PM
15000 - 25000 dirhams ????? :eek7: my friend you are paying WAAAAY too much for that engine. My friend got a type r engine for his crx as I mentioned before. He bought a b18c5 in almost brand new condition with very low km's and it cost him around 13000 dirhams, so if you're paying anything more than 15000 you are paying too much and you can definitely find a better price.

LjasonL
03-17-2004, 09:19 PM
:smile: so you say if I ordered CUSCO Strut Bars, ZERO SPORTS Stabilizers and TEIN Suspension which made for STi can also fit in my 2.0 N/A impreza :uhoh: but I'm really afraid of wasting my money on something that may not fit ??
:eek7: are you 100% sure cuz you know these parts not so cheap!!
:smokin: as for the engine I decided to go with 3sge((3ed generation)) with it's 6 speed M/T :disappoin but I have to wait till my engine blew :evillol: ??? Then I go for it.......

The front sway bar will probably not fit, but the rear sway bar,front and rear strut bars, and shocks and springs are a direct swap. I'm running springs, rear sway, and front strut bar meant for a WRX sedan on my N/A 2.5 wagon.

Initial_D
03-17-2004, 09:36 PM
my friend you are paying WAAAAY too much for that engine
:sly: ya but I'm not gonna buy the engine only, don't forget the 6M/T ,clutch ,ecu ,rear diff ,,,,,,ect

thank u ldelaysionl :smile: for the info

Zwrangler
03-18-2004, 03:25 AM
:sly: ya but I'm not gonna buy the engine only, don't forget the 6M/T ,clutch ,ecu ,rear diff ,,,,,,ect

thank u ldelaysionl :smile: for the info

okay well let me put it this way. my friend paid under 20000dirhams all up including the new b18c5 engine, gearbox, diff, axles etc...and installation all for under 20000. so your price range seems fine as long as that includes installation. I'm just trying to save you some cash bro. but do what you think is best.

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