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Dodge 5.7L vs Chevy 5.3L


rositis
02-16-2004, 11:27 PM
I was wondering about a real world comparsion of speed between the two. The numbers that I got were as follows:

Dodge 5.7L Hemi
0-60= 8.6 seconds
1/4 mile 16.7 @ 81 mph

Chevy 5.3L Vortec
0-60= 8.4 seconds
1/4 mile 16.5 @ 77 mph

These were the only numbers that I have been able to find. The problem is that both of these are from extended cab truck. My chevy is a regular cab.

The main reason that I ask is because a guy at work has a dodge with the 5.7L and he always talks so much crap about it. I get so tired of hearing about how tough his Hemi is. Anyway, thanks for the help ahead of time.

desertmike1
02-17-2004, 04:47 AM
Call him out, and let us know what happend!!

-Mike

bowtieguy
02-17-2004, 08:25 AM
me personally i am not too impressed with the hemi's numbers i mean come on ,a 5.7 with 345 hp. while gm's 5.7 is pushing 350 hp. i just dont see the big deal about the HEMI.seems dodge is trying to cash in on its old reputation with the original hemi that was a very strong motor.this one though i believe is mostly hype.so yeah call him out i would like to see it happen.let evertbody know how it goes.after all ,if he does win by some chance he does have about 25 more c.i. and the 5.3 chevy has nothing to be ashamed of giving up that much displacement.

rositis
02-17-2004, 09:33 AM
Well unfortunantly (not really) he wrecked his truck this weekend. It will be about 3 weeks before its put back together so I guess we will just have to wait!

rositis
02-17-2004, 09:37 AM
Oh and bowtieguy, I agree, the Hemi seems like a marketing scheme to me. With all the Hemi commercials on TV, Dodge fans can't deny that the hemi is built just to sell more vehicles. I mean just look at that ugly ass minivan, oops I mean Durango that is selling just because of the motor.

The Ladies Man
02-17-2004, 11:47 AM
i know according to truck trend july/august 2003 a dodge ram 5.7 hemi single cab short bed with 3.92:1 rear end ran a 15.12 @89.06mph and 0-60 in 6.83 seconds and base curb weight is 4798lbs.

rositis
02-17-2004, 06:04 PM
Thats pretty good numbers compared to the ones that I found. But I think the numbers that I found were for there four door so Im sure that is the difference. But the numbers on the chevy side were also for an extended cab. What would you say the base numbers on a regular cab swb chevy would be? With the 5.3L of course.

Manic_Mechanic
02-21-2004, 10:14 PM
Chevy no longer makes a 5.7. However they do make the 6.0 that actually has 345 hp and it makes the Dodge memi look like a joke. So if the 5.3 will bust the 5.7 hemi just figure what the 6.0 Chevy SS Silverado with all wheel drive will do! NOTE: Remember the little 280 hp 4.3 powered GMC Syclone with turbo and all wheel drive? It was the fastest production vehicle in 1992, and like they said "Yes its a truck". Its brother the Jimmy version the Typhoon smoked the current F-150 Lightning and the Syclone is faster. So just picture the SS. Its the same thing but on a larger scale.

LT-Z71drvr
02-22-2004, 07:53 AM
I keep telling all the guys at work that the hemi isnt anything special.
The only thing that dodge improved was the tranny. Oh, and compared to the old 360, the hemi gets better milleage, too.
I like the 5.3.

Slowprocess
02-22-2004, 02:52 PM
Thats pretty good numbers compared to the ones that I found. But I think the numbers that I found were for there four door so Im sure that is the difference. But the numbers on the chevy side were also for an extended cab. What would you say the base numbers on a regular cab swb chevy would be? With the 5.3L of course.

It really depends on what year model your 5.3L is. The newer the year model, the faster the truck. In other words a 2000 is faster than a 99 and so on. A 2wd single cab 5.3L should easily lay down a low 15 high 14 bone stock. That is just about what the new single cab hemi puts down, so the win should really be decided from the line. This shows you just how slow the dodge hemi really is. It's rated at 345hp. The 5.3L isn't even rated at 300. The 6.0L SS is rated at 345, but this is to the crank. It loses so much hp going to all the wheels, but it will still take a hemi. The hemi is twice the motor the 360 or the 318 ever was, but come on its still a dodge. Dodge's 5.7L hemi can't even compare to the gm 5.7L ls1 or the lq9 6.0L.

BadBoy1404
02-23-2004, 07:25 PM
Just to let everybody know the Dodge Hemi was UNDERRATED. The numbers they post are higher than they actually are. Chevy claims actual numbers and Ford actually Underrates their vehicles.

DBZfein
03-19-2004, 08:30 PM
I don't know about numbers. But with my 4.8 regular cab with the flowmasters, spuerchips and FIPK II kit I whooped up on the 4 door hemi and the regular cab hemi. However I added 22's and my truck has slowed down. I have been beaten by a regular cab hemi since then . Now if they added all the upgrades to a dodge, that I have, I think it would have taken me.

rositis
03-19-2004, 09:10 PM
Hey badboy if the numbers that dodge post are higher than the actual numbers of the truck does that not mean that there overrated and not underrated?

Faze2183
03-20-2004, 03:03 AM
to me the 5.3 isnt much motor, i havent had a truck with one in it though i just dont like anything smaller then 5.7

and no im not dogin on chevy or anything i just still a fan of the 5.7 and or if anything i think chevy needs to drop the 4.8 and offer the 5.3 then offer the 6.0 (denial motor and or something like 310hp or something)(but also offer a high output too)

to me chevy has droped and i wouldnt ever get a 5.3 if i was to get a new truck or used....

if it was a 6.0 used or new yes id go for it...

if i couldnt have it then id just go get a LS1 motor and drop it in my truck or something :grinyes:

though personal fav. currently is: Dodge 1500 with the hemi, chevy 1500HD with the 6.0, nissan tit, and or chevy 2500HD with duramax or 6.0

desertmike1
03-20-2004, 05:40 AM
Faze,
The 5.3 is an LS1 motor minus Aluminum block, and 10.5 to one compression.
Both Net and Torque horse power is higher then any 5.7 ever built for a truck application. You should drive one, I think you would be amazed at just how hard the engine pulls the truck.

Secondly, not only is the engine more powerfull it's also more economical to operate!

Faze2183
03-20-2004, 08:25 PM
Bah

rositis
03-20-2004, 10:04 PM
Faze just because i guess i dont have anything better to do im going to reply to your post. I agree with you that the 5.7 was a good engine during its "time", but very, very seldomely does a manufacturer replace a good engine with an engine of less quality. I agree with desertmike, the 5.3 is more powerful than the 5.7 and more torque. If you playing the "my engine is bigger than your engine game," then by all means your argument will win. But as soon as you pull up to the line together you will realize that your going to get beat!

chevytrucks92
03-20-2004, 10:13 PM
rositis, I think the Vortec 5.7 actually has more torque then the 5.3. I believe the numbers are something like 335 for the 5.7 and 330 for the 5.3. I agree with you about the power the 5.3s have. They really are unbelievable. I don't know if you could beat a 2WD Hemi, I mean you are giving up at the least 50 hp. You probably could beat him out of the hole and you probably could jump out in front of him by a truck length or so rolling, but I'd say he probably would run you down. But hey, go for it. If you did out run him, then you could really brag! lol.

Faze2183
03-21-2004, 02:44 AM
ya i know the 5.3 is a good motor i dunno i guess when since chevy shrunk down in the engine size and such then it lost my intrest.....

and the 5.7 has the same ammount of torq as the 5.3 i think.....

btw ive added alot to my truck, so bleh

heh

Bowtie Bandit
04-09-2004, 02:41 PM
Just to see what all the hype was about I test drove a quad cab Hemi. The first thing I noticed was the interior is cheap, every moving part in the interior looks like it will need replacing even though it's brand new. When I got the pig on the road I hit a straightaway and floored it. This truck might as well have been an 89 V6 Dakota!! There is no comparison between Chevy and Dodge, Chevy has a much better product.

Jzo04
04-28-2004, 11:30 PM
Wow... fan boys.. I hate how people can't see a little good in everything. Jesus.. grow up. I know the new Hemi isn't as spectacular as it's made out to be, but... c'mon. BTW, I don't remember if it was C&D or MT, but, check both their websites for the Harley Davidson Ford F-150 vs. Chevy Silverado SS vs. Dodge Ram 1500 w/ a Hemi. I'm just saying don't be such fanboys. Having a favorite or a preference is okay, just.. don't be so... whiney..

chevytrucks92
04-28-2004, 11:41 PM
It was MT that did that article. The H/D F-150 was the fastest in the 1/4 (it also was the lightest by about 500 or 600 pounds I believe though)

The SS Silverado out run the Hemi Ram though. MT had it has 14.9 to 15.1 I believe. I think that's pretty impressive, considering the SS is an extendec cab and AWD truck.

The Hemi is a performance value though (atleast if you don't go ridiculas on the options, I for one would never pay $28K for a 2WD truck that only ran 15.1 though). I think the article said you coudl get one for about $23K.

GM is supposed to be coming out with a single cab RWD SS Silverado as an 06 model I think (maybe 05, but I think 06). It will have 385 HP, 6-spd manual, and .373 gears. I know it wouldnt compete with hte SRT-10 Ram or the next Lightening, but it woudl give the currnent SVT Lightening all it coudl handle.

jeverett
04-29-2004, 09:09 AM
Ok, this is a personal experience of about 4 months ago. I have a 99 Z71 reg cab swb w/ 5.3L with about 77K at the time of this incident. My friend bought a brand new RCSWB Hemi 2wd. Well he kept talking junk about how fast it was so I challenged him (how stupid was that) to a friendly race. With no other mods than a Hypertech and exhaust, with my 285 tires, I beat him out of the hold through 2nd gear, and he then passed me and won by only 1 - 1.5 truck lengths. I now have added a few more mods (FIPK soon to have Nelson tune) and I know I can stomp him. My truck probly weighs hundreds more than his. I'm not saying that HEMI's arent fast, but theyre nowhere near what's being advertised, or what people are expecting. Just my personal opinion. Hope I didn't offend anyone.

silvette
04-29-2004, 08:27 PM
just a bit of info. because of the re-design of the heads in the HEMI it causes the truck to have lag when pushing the accelerator

Faze2183
04-30-2004, 02:11 PM
interesting

Faze2183
04-30-2004, 02:12 PM
what does everyone think of the nissan tit?

Jzo04
05-05-2004, 09:55 AM
I like the Titans. I think they're kinda nice. They have a 5.6 don't they??? That's just off the top of my head... I could be wrong (probably am). They're supposed to be good trucks. Down here in Oklahoma, there's already about a dozen in my town of 45,000 people. Oh, and by the way, I wasn't bashing Chevy or anything in case I offended anyone. I was just making a point...

Faze2183
05-05-2004, 10:35 AM
ya its got a 5.6, and but i think the titan will be hard to sell mainly to them ranchers and such that have had chevy, ford, and dodge

Jimmiz71
05-05-2004, 10:45 AM
I was very impressed with the Titan, actually a bit jealous.. My friend and I Test drove one at Kelly Nissan, the interior is sweet and the motor pulls hard. He lives inside the City so hes going with a Pathfinder but the Titan gets a thumbs up.
-Jimmy

jeverett
05-05-2004, 10:49 AM
Don't they come factory w/ 300 hp?? Pretty good power for a truck that size I think...

Jzo04
05-07-2004, 12:15 AM
Well... down here in Oklahoma, we have a few ranchers... And, like you said Faze, it's gonna be heard to pull people from the Blue Oval, the Bow Tie, or the Ram. But like I said, I've seen about a dozen, and we have a lot of people coming in from small towns around us because we just got a Wal-Mart SuperCenter. (woo-hoo... :|)

Faze2183
05-09-2004, 04:45 AM
hah, well at this point to me chevy needs to jump the gun on their trucks because honestly i am not impressed with the chevy trucks as of right now.....

a guy a know that is a gm for the service at a caddy dealer hes not even impressed with chevys trucks.....

they gotta do something is all i gotta say

nissan is first on my list then its equal when it comes to ford and dodge

HemisphericalDrive
12-05-2004, 11:08 PM
hah, well at this point to me chevy needs to jump the gun on their trucks because honestly i am not impressed with the chevy trucks as of right now.....

a guy a know that is a gm for the service at a caddy dealer hes not even impressed with chevys trucks.....

they gotta do something is all i gotta say

nissan is first on my list then its equal when it comes to ford and dodgewhite Hey guys I'm new so go easy on me....I just bought a Dodge Ram 1500 Quad cab Laramie AWD 5.7 Hemi about 3 weeks ago. I initially bought it because I liked the way it looked and it was fully loaded. Contrary to popular belief it hauls ass!(And it's the heaviest version you can get.) However I haven't had the chance to really race anyone yet. P.S. Don't compare to the ford for christ sakes.

Slowprocess
12-05-2004, 11:18 PM
white Hey guys I'm new so go easy on me....I just bought a Dodge Ram 1500 Quad cab Laramie AWD 5.7 Hemi about 3 weeks ago. I initially bought it because I liked the way it looked and it was fully loaded. Contrary to popular belief it hauls ass!(And it's the heaviest version you can get.) However I haven't had the chance to really race anyone yet. P.S. Don't compare to the ford for christ sakes.

Congrats on the purchase. The hemi is a pretty quick truck as far as stock goes. The aftermarket for you guys just isn't as large as it is for the newer ls-style gm motors. You will be very well matched up with the 5.3L 4x4s. It's not a "race" truck by any means, but I'm sure you didn't buy it to be one. Alot of guys are having success with the boltons, but they just aren't putting the big power gainers(aside from nitrous) out for you guys yet. Anyway, like I said, congrats, and welcome to the forum.

calgary_redneck
12-06-2004, 05:25 PM
hah, well at this point to me chevy needs to jump the gun on their trucks because honestly i am not impressed with the chevy trucks as of right now.....

a guy a know that is a gm for the service at a caddy dealer hes not even impressed with chevys trucks.....

they gotta do something is all i gotta say

nissan is first on my list then its equal when it comes to ford and dodge

I'm not impressed with the number of problems the titan is having

Faze2183
12-06-2004, 09:28 PM
what problems are they having? my friend has one and only time it goes in is for oil change and check up, the only thing that he had a problem with was the window switch burning up, i bought a 2002 chevy 1500 z71 with 62k miles and im very impressed now i wasnt from what i heard mainly about piston slap and clunker trucks, i dont have ether or so im very very happy, chevy has bought me once again but i dunno about the future, i plan to keep this truck for a while or tile about 200k miles and so tile then chevy better kick some ass soon

HemisphericalDrive
12-06-2004, 10:23 PM
Congrats on the purchase. The hemi is a pretty quick truck as far as stock goes. The aftermarket for you guys just isn't as large as it is for the newer ls-style gm motors. You will be very well matched up with the 5.3L 4x4s. It's not a "race" truck by any means, but I'm sure you didn't buy it to be one. Alot of guys are having success with the boltons, but they just aren't putting the big power gainers(aside from nitrous) out for you guys yet. Anyway, like I said, congrats, and welcome to the forum.
Thanks for the welcome man. Your truck doesn't mess around and I like the looks of it. In order to keep up with my stock single cab counter parts,:smile: I just installed a hellwig rear sway bar, and just ordered a K&N FIPK intake, Poweraid throttle body spacer (weak, I know), Banks 4" Monster exhaust (single out), JBA titanium ceramic coated headers with y-pipe, and a Hypertech Power Programmer 3. Alot for one order but I'll be needing it with my heavy ass truck. That is however about everything you can get right now for the 5.7 hemi as you stated. (not much) I can't hardly wait for Kenne Bell to finish testing the supercharger kit for the 2004. :naughty:

calgary_redneck
12-08-2004, 01:34 AM
what problems are they having? my friend has one and only time it goes in is for oil change and check up, the only thing that he had a problem with was the window switch burning up, i bought a 2002 chevy 1500 z71 with 62k miles and im very impressed now i wasnt from what i heard mainly about piston slap and clunker trucks, i dont have ether or so im very very happy, chevy has bought me once again but i dunno about the future, i plan to keep this truck for a while or tile about 200k miles and so tile then chevy better kick some ass soon

Nissan is having so many problems that they have brought 200 tecs from japan to try to fix the quality problems which range from interior leaks,squeaks and rattles general poor espembly to cronic rotor warpage and rear diff failure.

PigPen5150
12-08-2004, 09:26 PM
With the intro of the 5.3 Chevy basicly reintroduced the legendary 327. Same displacement

LT-Z71drvr
04-18-2005, 09:32 PM
Sorry to dig up this old post, but I was looking for info on the hypertech programmer since I just ordered one, and this thread came up.
I posted earlier in it, but things have changed a bit for me since then.

I no longer own my 2000 silverado, (wish I would have never bought it)
I now own what is in my sig, and truthfully, I can say that the 5.3 would get up and go only slightly faster than what I have now, and it only got about 1-2 mpg more depending on how I drove it.
I for one believe that Chevy made a HUGE mistake dropping the 5.7 Vortec. They had a good thing there, and they let it go.
Just my 2 cents.
Again, sorry to dig up the old post...

jveik
04-19-2005, 09:09 PM
Faze,
The 5.3 is an LS1 motor minus Aluminum block, and 10.5 to one compression.
Both Net and Torque horse power is higher then any 5.7 ever built for a truck application. You should drive one, I think you would be amazed at just how hard the engine pulls the truck.

Secondly, not only is the engine more powerfull it's also more economical to operate!

i respectively disagree. my stock 4 barrel holley carbureted 350 chevy is supposed to make up to 350 horsepower (or so my mechanically inclined friends say) thats way more than a stock 5.3 would make. the 350 is one of the best engines in my opinion ever made by man... i looked at numbers in a chiltons or haynes manual one of the two i looked at 1972, the year before cats killed power on engines, and the 350 was posting numbers a little bit north of 300 horses

and trust me, they have a crapload of torque too... mine has a 3 speed automatic and it can stay in top gear going up a steep hill down to 20 miles an hour before it has to shift down into second gear. thats some serious torque right there. and thats with one bad cylinder and it still gets 11 mpg with the carb on it...

1998Chevy
04-19-2005, 09:45 PM
My 4.3L almost beat the Hemi and I know for a fact that the 5.3L will chew up the hemi and spit it out!!

Viper_iii
04-27-2005, 12:35 PM
I'm not sure but I own both a 92' 5.x 350 (engine is tired now) and also a 04' Hemi 4 dr.

the new Chevy's across the board are nice and I can't argue that. I needed something that was affordable and had 4 doors and the dodge was priced about 5k less with the hemi than the suicide door chevy's that I was looking at.

All and all the dodge hemi has way more power and torque that its predesessors. The 2000-2003 Dodge Rams were accleration Pigs... I just talked to a Hemi Sport owner yesterday and he says his sport out acclerates his Vette... I think his vette is tired but hey.... sounded fast either way.. the sport hemi is about 380hp still a lot of horses for the amount of power that is sucked off by the cats and smog regulation equip here in Cali!!!!

Silverado Brethern
04-27-2005, 05:24 PM
Have you all heard of the HUGE loss, as in billions GM has reported for the last quarter and is expected to take again the next quarter? Up until about the last 3-5 years years GM was the undisputable head of the pack, period. Dodge has perked up really fast due to the Cummins and now the Hemi, and Ford is still pretty solid as usual, even tho Ford gas engines are dogs. Whats wrong with GM you ask? I say it too much focus on the wrong market and that has resulted in less quality. oh yeah and, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BRING BACK THE 350!!! IT IS CAPABLE OF WHOOPING ANY FORD OR DODGE GAS GAS ENGINE!!!. That engine is capable of making ungodly amounts of power (400hp pretty easily) so why doesnt GM make a "sport model" truck and put a 350 in it???????

Austin8214
04-27-2005, 05:39 PM
That engine is capable of making ungodly amounts of power (400hp pretty easily) so why doesnt GM make a "sport model" truck and put a 350 in it???????


They have it was called the SS 350. There is a guy i work with that owns one.

thecackster
04-28-2005, 10:59 AM
Sorry to dig up this old post, but I was looking for info on the hypertech programmer since I just ordered one, and this thread came up.
I posted earlier in it, but things have changed a bit for me since then.

I no longer own my 2000 silverado, (wish I would have never bought it)
I now own what is in my sig, and truthfully, I can say that the 5.3 would get up and go only slightly faster than what I have now, and it only got about 1-2 mpg more depending on how I drove it.
I for one believe that Chevy made a HUGE mistake dropping the 5.7 Vortec. They had a good thing there, and they let it go.
Just my 2 cents.
Again, sorry to dig up the old post...

I agree...My 5.7 Vortec extended Kicks serious ass...my friend has a 5.0 or 5.3 not sure but it's the same year as mine just single cab, I smoke him every time..lol

Viper_iii
04-28-2005, 11:04 AM
yes I've seen the SS Truck... the price tag is almost as ungodly as the horsepower!!!!

Everyone else is throwing the 350 in as a standard and tuning it way down to 345 horses I guess for mileage and emissions... Either way the GM needs to get back to the big horse motors and put some name on it like "Panty Dropper V8" and maybe that will get a similar market that the dodge captured with the HEMI tag!!!

Silverado Brethern
04-28-2005, 02:36 PM
Here's a simple solution, if they remade the 5.7L with some of the newer technology it would prolly come with right around 290-300hp. Sooo then just sell a 5.7 with a supercharger on it. A small SC would add very little to the cost of a truck and boost the power up to around 400hp.

FalconSS
04-28-2005, 02:36 PM
Well they're gunna pull themselves out of the hole they dug somewhat, seeing as they are turning the Silverado SS into 2WD only. It's still gunna have the same engine but the 345 horses can be put to good haulin' ass power now.

1998Chevy
04-28-2005, 03:05 PM
Silverado, GM has the SS Silverado with a 6.0 in it. They stoped making 5.7 becuase they found they could get more power from the 5.3. There is also the Joe Gibbs addition that has a 4.8 supercharged.

Silverado Brethern
04-28-2005, 09:30 PM
Yeh the 6.0L is a good engine but a 350 can make way more power than a 327. How much horsepower does the gibberado make? but that truck still is nothin compared to the popularity of the lightning or even the hemi.

thecackster
04-28-2005, 09:39 PM
How i would love to supercharge my truck, but thats like 3Gs

FalconSS
04-29-2005, 10:00 AM
Yeh the 6.0L is a good engine but a 350 can make way more power than a 327. How much horsepower does the gibberado make? but that truck still is nothin compared to the popularity of the lightning or even the hemi.

Ol' Gibby's Silverado makes 390 hp and 425 lb-ft of torque out of the standard 5.3L, although if you put the same blower and intercooler on an SS with the 6.0L you could most likely get even better numbers. To me the having the letters "SS" on your truck mean alot more than having a little plate that says "Joe Gibbs".... most people have no clue who he even is...

Viper_iii
04-29-2005, 10:10 AM
Had to google it find out who he is...LOL
joe gibs (http://www.joegibbsracing.com/)

FalconSS
04-29-2005, 10:12 AM
Had to google it find out who he is...LOL
joe gibs (http://www.joegibbsracing.com/)

My point exactly..

meromero80
02-02-2007, 09:01 AM
I own an 05' Sierra and I love my truck alot but I'm not blind to the fact that the Dodge Ram Hemi is faster. I have a CAI, Dual Flowmasters, and a Diablosport Power Programmer as far as performance mods go. I have tested my truck out and so far my best time is a 15.6 @ 86.8 mph. I would venture to say I am probably as fast as a stock Hemi. As far as everything else I have an 0/2 drop kit, 22" GA chrome rims, chrome mirror covers, chrome door handles, debadging, aftermarket oxford burlwood Denali dash kit, LineX spray in bed-liner, aftermarket DVD player, custom leather 2 tone interior, and many more mods. Concerning the 5.7L, why would you even compare that engine to the 5.3L. The 5.7L only cranks out 255HP and the 5.3L puts out 295HP and manages better fuel economy in the process. If you want to talk a good GM engine then talk about the 7.4L 454 that was put in the old Suburban's (torque beast).

Blue Bowtie
02-02-2007, 12:05 PM
I'm thinking that this ancient thread has been resrruected just about enough already.

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