Initial D Trueno project questions...

I just bought the first 3 available DVDs of the show and am now hooked on it :iceslolan .

1. Does the comic version differ from the anime version?
2. Theoretically, couldn't I just use a regular Fujimi Trueno kit instead of paying the high price wanted for the specific tie-in version? (I have the Fujiwara Tofu shop side decal already; thanks Lau Bak! :iceslolan )


Thank you. :smile:

like any movie/show vs. printed version question, the book is usually always more indepth and better and the same is true for this series as well. I liked the cartoon, but i love the manga. Some things in the manga didnt happen in the cartoon or happen diferently, so get them both if you can. I reccomend the fan-translated mangas over the U.S. released ones because they cut out alot of stuff that shoulda been left in.

Thanks man!! I appreciate the help!:sunglasse

Tonio, I watched the series over the Christmas break, and I got hooked as well. I bought the Fujimi Initial D Trueno. It wasn't that much. I think I paid 1600 yen for it. Check the pic. The kit does come with a nice set of aftermarket decals (TRD, BRIDE, Endless, etc), and some cardboard cutouts of various characters.

They do have a version with Takumi and Natsuki figures included. I think that one is pricey, 2800 yen.

If you like the music from the cartoon, they do have 5 disc set of the songs from there. Great stuff. I listen to it while I build.

http://www.quietrage.com/af/trueno.jpg

Thanks Joe! I ordered it earlier after I made this thread. :)

i have whole set comic in jpg format. :D

initial d is the best! but the DVD's butchered it! i suggest watching the original japanese ones with subtitles if possible. well, later in the manga he gets a carbon hood when he joins..... something. lol dont wanna mess it up for ya.

Don't listen to Buddah on this one, Tonio. The "cut" portions of Initial D weren't racing related at all, but instead were altered scenes dealing with the lead character's girlfriend working as a prostitute to an older guy. The story wasn't even altered in such a way as to eliminate the relationship, but to portray it less graphically. Basically, Tokyopop, the US distributor, didn't want this property to be an 18+ age restricted series.

If not being able to see a 17 year old prostitute's breasts is that much of a concern to you, then by all means purchase or download bootlegs. But if you're actually mature enough to see the logic behind the decision and realize how 100% unimportant it is, then purchase the Tokyopop release so that Shuichi Shigeno continues to be compensated for his work and will continue creating more Initial D manga. After all, Tokyopop has his approval to make the necessary alterations.

well, there is no nudity. but i feel that the gf/prostitute thing is a huge part of the story. what will they do about the ending? well, come to think of it they can bs that pretty easily... but still!!

I never seen the bootleg mangas? I never knew they exist. Anyways, the tokyopop version does have a reference to she having sex with an older man from what i read.

initial d is the best! but the DVD's butchered it! i suggest watching the original japanese ones with subtitles if possible.

If possible/ No one can stand the dub, or you'll laugh too much and suffocate you.
While the Eurobeat may sound cheesy (I still like it, leave me alone!), they replaced precious real sound effects with some generic sound. My friend owns an AE86, and it sounds just like you hear in the show or vice varsa. Later in the show, the supervisor Tuchiya (the drift king) advised the proper use of sound effects for the shifting and proper gear setting for each corner, but that efffrot is totally wasted in the dub audio track. Just forget the dub, or you'll miss almost a half of the enjoyment. (and find my name in the cedit, too. ;))
well, later in the manga he gets a carbon hood when he joins..... something. lol dont wanna mess it up for ya.
Project D.
That part of the story is over in manga, so the producer can finaly make the 4th Stage, and it's coming this spring! This time, they sampled the sound of Tsuchiya's super 86, as well as video taped his hand and foot movement for reference.

Don't listen to Buddah on this one, Tonio. The "cut" portions of Initial D weren't racing related at all, but instead were altered scenes dealing with the lead character's girlfriend working as a prostitute to an older guy. The story wasn't even altered in such a way as to eliminate the relationship, but to portray it less graphically. Basically, Tokyopop, the US distributor, didn't want this property to be an 18+ age restricted series.

I really dont like to argue over petty things, but this guy or girl is a MORON. The whole "prostitute" thing is VERY integral to the story in both the manga AND the animated series. It plays a big part in the development of Natsuki and Takumi's relationship in the manga and in the animated serie's 2nd stage. Aside from this being edited, the books also "dumb down" alot of the technical speak which is a letdown because this a manga about cars and racing which is very technical and precise. TP's books also cut out a few of the little omake's and "drift lessons" found in at the end of the japanese volumes which is a shame too.

If not being able to see a 17 year old prostitute's breasts is that much of a concern to you, then by all means purchase or download bootlegs. But if you're actually mature enough to see the logic behind the decision and realize how 100% unimportant it is, then purchase the Tokyopop release so that Shuichi Shigeno continues to be compensated for his work and will continue creating more Initial D manga. After all, Tokyopop has his approval to make the necessary alterations.

I dont know about you, but I like my works, written and film, to be unaltered in any fashion. To alter a work no matter how small is to lose sight of the creator's vision, period. I'm glad tokyopop has brought this series to the U.S. officially, but for people who've read and seen the original version(saw the 1st stage in '99,read the scans later on), its rather craptastic how they skirt around the tech details and situations that were tough to deal with. I love tokyopop, heck I remember when they started as MIXXZINE (who here remebers that huh?) and were publishing compilations of ICEBLADE,PARASYTE, and MAGIC KNIGHT RAYEARTH in low-grade paper volumes. Those were great, but they really dropped the ball on this one. ID is a mature story, and dumbing it down for the average reader to cash in is just not acceptable. Alot of people are quick to say the things ive said about thier version of Initial D and have not read their manga or seen thier anime, but I own both and the difference between the original and the TP version is like night and day. If you want the original, search for it on google or ebay and your bound to find the english-subbed original version box set.

just my :2cents:

where can I get the fansubed mangas?? any sites?

The only diff cars from the anime and the manga are the RX-7's. They have fake tuner decals on there doors in the anime and the manga ones have real brands. But if u buy the Initial D FD and FC, then u get the manga decals, so its all ok.
Hypertek, my friend has most of the series and he gets them from MIRC and some FTP channels.

And yes...if u have the decal, its all fine. But u dont get all the free crap. Which is always good. =D

I'm a guy, I do recall when Stuart Levy headed up Mixx (back when the shoujo-mangazine Smile was their chief publication) and I'm not trivializing the Papa-Natsuki relationship. It is one of the key points in establishing Natsuki Mogi's character and drives Second Stage's most interesting story.

I was very disappointed in the way Tokyopop handlied Initial D as well, but it's not "butchered" and it's not "unwatchable". The uncut sub is still on the DVD's, and the manga still does a good job of conveying the story.

And, quite frankly, I have personal assurance from Stuart Levy that Shigeno approved all alterations to Initial D for the U.S market release. I don't see alterations that the creator approved of as losing sight of the artistic vision. Shuichi Shigeno, when he created Initial D, wanted to tell a story about boys growing up, and how cars helped them grow up. He wanted to tell a story about these characters, sleepy non-commital Takumi, enthusiastic but naive Itsuki, proud and aggressive Keisuke, and all the rest. So long as those characters are complete, and that story is complete, the manga and the anime is complete.

Maybe I'm just out-growing idealism, but I honestly see this as an acceptable and logical reality.

I didn't mean to start anything; I just wanted to get some good information to help me build a replica of the car from the show. I thank you for all of your replies as they've shed some light on the subject of drifting and also proved a suspicion correct in assuming that the Drift King Tsuchiya was somehow involved in the subject. I have the 3 volumes of the Tokyo pop release and thanks for addressing my curiosity about the relationship between Natsuki and the older gentleman; I first thought he was her father but someting didn't seem quite right about that scenario. Thank you all once again and take care!:):sunglasse

Tonioseven, here are some pictures that might be some help,
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/roland99/tofu1.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/roland99/tofu.jpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/roland99/tofu2.jpg

the difference in teh manga and the show is that later on Bunta gets a GC8, i havent read up that far yet, but from what ive heard he races again, ive seen pics of it also, from various sites, jsut a matter of time b4 the TokyoPop manga comes out for that

Thanks all! I'll be sure to post pics of the project when I get it! :)

looking forward to it antonio!

I've always been an enthuiast of the AE86. I just recently heard of this show Initial D and I downloaded a bunch of episodes off of Kazaa and started to like it a lot. I've been wanting to get one of the Fujimi kits but didn't want to order one offline, but yesterday a kid told me that this Anime shop in the mall had these kits and they have the Tokyopop DVDs. I'm going up there tonight after work. :-D

Those above pictures are interesting, but didn't the Anime AE86 have a tan interior?

hah those pics are awesome. no more fansubs, well legally cause it has gotten lisencd so yeah...

sweet god!!

i wish there was initial D up here in the netherlands
I've downloaded a few episodes & i like it very much

Good news everyone
Initial D : The Fourth Stage, has been annouced as being shown in Japan this year.

Coolness!!! Also, I bought the Manga up to #9; are there more available?

Man all this fuss over a cartoon.I've got the first two DVDs and thought it was great fun.

Volume 10 was released earlier this week, tonio.

There're quite a few volumes left to go. And the series is still ongoing in Japan.

Those above pictures are interesting, but didn't the Anime AE86 have a tan interior?
Yah, also that's the kouki model, not the zenki one. And, the engine is all wrong.

Recently I've became a Initial D fan myself. So far I've gotten the first three TP books, and watched the Japanese anime series with subtitles. Any one know where I can get more books for cheap?? I know a place here that I can get 25% off each manga.

So does anyone have pics of a tan Trueno interior, or screen captures from the videos/DVD's?

Well ive wanted to see Initial D for a long time now and just saw a copy at blockbuster for 12.99 so maybe ill go pick one up. I think ill order the Fujimi kit later too :)


EDIT: Im back from Blockbuster. I picked up the Battle 01 DVD for 12.99...not a bad price. I might have them order the rest for me :)

support inane, we are the guys who translate and proof and scan so you guys can read the good version, not the americanised version! (email/pm me for details on how to get id manga, i have up to volume 26)

anyway, back to the kit. i too have bought it, and just an fyi (duno if its been done, but ill do one anyway)

- don't use front bumper
- don't use rear spoiler
- two toning painting instructions look wrong, the top line (black) should be thinner
- ^ if you want to know how to measure it, get the manga, and look at how the lines follow the rear tail lights, use those as a guide
- interior is very well detailed, but not so for the 86mecha (tacho's needed)
- wheels are wrong colour, should be black, or dark grey, they are brown black.

david check your PM's please

yep checked, erm..... if u want it, although mircx is currently down, goto irc.cruelfate.net, or irc.rizon.net and join #mangareaders

get it in there.

ahhh i have been to #mangareaders before, I didnt know MIRC-X died though (havent been on IRC in ages).

I know, I know, off topic, but i didn't want to open a new topic.

So, who knows where to get Initial D subtitles that are compatible whith BS Player??

I've been working on my Trueno the past couple days. I found some great reference pics here:

http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/Scrapbook.htm

They appear to be scans from old Trueno brochures, so you can see what the cars looked like new, AND all the different options, as well as different mirrors, taillights, etc.

I also found what I think is an EXACT match for the interior color: It's Polly Scale PRR TUSCAN, F414167 a model railroading acrylic paint. It goes on kinda purple but then when it dries looks EXCATLY correct. The best red for the seat inserts seems to be Tamiya XF-7 Flat Red

I'm also adding seatbelts. If you look on the door panel pieces of the interior, just behind the actual door panel, there is a recessed rectangle. This is where the seatbelt comes out. The belt then goes half way up the B-pillar, slightly forward at a slight angle, where it is held by a triangular retainer. Then it goes straight down to the floor. I have a picture of this but I can't find it right now. I think I got it off a cardomain site though.

I've been working on my Trueno the past couple days. I found some great reference pics here:

http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/Scrapbook.htm

They appear to be scans from old Trueno brochures, so you can see what the cars looked like new, AND all the different options, as well as different mirrors, taillights, etc.

I also found what I think is an EXACT match for the interior color: It's Polly Scale PRR TUSCAN, F414167 a model railroading acrylic paint. It goes on kinda purple but then when it dries looks EXCATLY correct. The best red for the seat inserts seems to be Tamiya XF-7 Flat Red

I'm also adding seatbelts. If you look on the door panel pieces of the interior, just behind the actual door panel, there is a recessed rectangle. This is where the seatbelt comes out. The belt then goes half way up the B-pillar, slightly forward at a slight angle, where it is held by a triangular retainer. Then it goes straight down to the floor. I have a picture of this but I can't find it right now. I think I got it off a cardomain site though.
Thank you for that link!! :iceslolan :sunglasse That will help a lot of people!! Good find! :smokin:

where do you get a model like that in england?? if anyone knows please pm me. ive read up to no.8 in the tokyopop version but i didnt know that muck bout the anime. oh an thanks v much for the picks help me in my latest project

You can order the models from Hobby Link Japan

http://www.hlj.com/

Any of these should work:
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ18572
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ18354
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ18347
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ18321
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ03440
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ18810
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ18747
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ18738

These show the later style Kouki bumper on the box art, but probably have the Zenki bumper anyways, which is what the Initial D version has.
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ04003
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ18836
http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?FUJ18732