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12valve Vs. 16valve


zmanss
02-15-2004, 02:57 AM
I have a buddy that is thinking of trading his 1994 Jeep Cherokee for a 1990 240sx. I agree that the Jeep shit needs to go and getting in something like a 240 would be a good move. However, I have heard a few things concerning the 12-valve motors. According to a (different) friend that has done pretty extensive research on 240's the 16-valve motor is a much better choice. Not only for the added 15 hp, but he claims the 12's were notorious for having "issues." Quite frankly, I don't want to see my friend that's considering the trade get shat on, so I am curious as to the validity of the 12-valve motor stories that I've heard.

Also, how hard is it to throw a bearing in these motors. I drove the car, and noticed a definate vibration/rattle through the rpm band. It was odd however...it was characteristic of an exhaust leak in how I could evoke the problem, but I have never heard/felt anything like this due to an exhaust. It sounded like a failed/worn out valve lifter or something similar. I only got to fool with it for a few minutes, so I didn't really get a chance to evaluate the car. My personal opinion is he's paying too much for it: About $2,800 - it's a 1990 in ok condition, new paint but overspray everywhere, missing some stupid stuff like an inner fender cover etc... 140,000-ish on the clock and the aparant funky running issue.

Any input on any of these issues would be appreciated....thanks

KenOhki2112
02-15-2004, 03:07 AM
$2800 is definatly too much =\

I paid $2900 for mine, but that was almost 4 years ago and it only had 70K miles, exelent body/paint, just needed tires.

I haven't heard anything about the 12 valve (KA24E) having any issues that the 16 valve (KA24DE) doesn't have, in fact I think I've heard some people complaining about the 16 valve running hotter. He's right about the power though. If they are firm on that price I vote keep looking =p

zmanss
02-15-2004, 03:51 AM
yeah, I can't find any recalls or bad remarks on the review sites. I'm thinking my boy needs to shop around a little. I don't really know about these motors that much, but then again, I'd have a 98 and do the SR/sylvia conversion......lol

publicenemy137
02-15-2004, 10:16 AM
that's way too high, I'd rather just buy a cheap one just for the shell and drop an engine in. That oen seems like it'll be needing a new engine in anyways, and for $2,800, it better have an engine that will last at least 2-4 years

xjoeharperx
02-15-2004, 11:34 AM
Never buy a car that has issues like the ones your saying..the price is way too high, especially in that condition.

nissanfanatic
02-15-2004, 10:44 PM
There are many other cars out there. Dont jump on the first one you find thinking it is the last. you will always be able to find a better deal. especially a better deal than that.

civicsedannonvtec
02-16-2004, 05:49 PM
never heard about any major faults in the 89-90 setup... but I say buy a shell or one cheap with a dead motor. then sr20det.. if thats an option...

sileighty_2nr
02-27-2004, 03:10 PM
the sr20det can be swapped into an 89-90 240sx without modifications correct?

nissanfanatic
02-27-2004, 06:12 PM
you have to get power steering lines and reservoir from a 91-94 s13 chassis. other than that it is a winner.

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