Beta Motors

I've been looking for parts for the '03 I4 and keep seeing things for the 01 Beta motor... doesn't the 01 and the 03 I4 use the same motor?

theres plenty of shit out there..
www.newtiburon.com
look around... not teh actual store.. but the boards.......

all block components are the same. there are some differences in the head though i believe. and also the fact the beta 1 is MAF and the beta 2 is MAP.

importshark.com, might help as well

all block components are the same. there are some differences in the head though i believe. and also the fact the beta 1 is MAF and the beta 2 is MAP.

Thank you... that was exactly the info I was looking for.

so the 03 i4 Tib runs on the Beta I?

i'm only making sure, because I'm saving for a supercharger kit

no, the gk I4 engines are all beta II.

there are no super chargers for teh i-4's
only turbos or n/a
if you get an i-4 you either... dont care abtou tuning.. or youre planing for a turbo....

so the 03 i4 Tib runs on the Beta I?

i'm only making sure, because I'm saving for a supercharger kit

Nisco is right that there isn't a "kit" on the market at the moment however I do know there are some private engineers that can make one for you. I would like to try to steer you away from super though... the only advantage to super vs turbo is that there is no spool up time however you lose hp in order to gain the hp (it takes hp away from the engine in order to turn the super chargers turbine) and spool up time on the kind of small turbo that you'd use on a tiburon is negligible. In other words, Turbo is WAY better for our car.

And nisco... as far as your comment that anybody that got the 4 cyl either doesn't care about tuning or is going turbo.... in about 4 months I will be pushing over 300 bhp through my shitty lil' 4cyl... I'd like to see the aluminum V6 block make that claim and follow through with it.... when I get it there I'll post my dyno and timeslips on here.

hahahahahah
thats so funny
300bhp
and you have an auto i4
youll lose alot in the crank...
youll be pushing maybe 250 or up alil...
a supercharger for teh v6... is up to 247... now over 275 without a public dyno slip....
so your shitty lil i4 is still gonna be shit compared to any one of the superchargers i pick....
ripp mods... highest amount of hp they can go with stock internals...
shooting over 250
nextgenmotorsports.... his cars puttin 275... abd hes shootin for over 300 his car is the test dummy....
so whatver his car puts down so do teh other cars....
alpine stage 2 if it ever comes out....


but id like ot know which company you decide on going with when you get your turbo....
ohh wai t i saw you want gude.....
have fun with that
how many stages they have?.. and what do they intail?

ohh and when did i ever say going turbo in 4 months... dont make shit up

ok i did a lil searchin around for GUDE stuff and info
and well here it is.. and these are prices...
The retail cost is in black, next to the discounted price available through FLUX Performance, which is shown in RED.
Turbo Kits: $3150 - 2550
Works for MAP based 2.0l Beta II engines.
Includes:
- Chromed Turbo 4-1 Header
- TD04h Turbo (efficient through18psi)
- Intercooler
- J&S Spark Management System (included at the time)
- Chromed & Mandrel Bent Piping
- Modified Hyundai Injectors
- All Clamps and Fittings Necessary for Install
Options:
- Blow Off Valve: $220 - 185
- T3/T4 Turbo: $400 ~ Sorry, he cant discount this option at all.
- Straight Pipe: 180 - 160 ~ This will replace the second cat, and is for off road use only, GUDE accepts no liability for violations of local and state emission laws.
Applications and Info:
Works for 5-speed Tiburon’s and Elantra’s with MAP based engines. As far as an automatic goes, the automatic tranny should be able to hold the 200 HP at 6.5psi without any problems, although, the figures may be lower due to higher percentage of drivetrain loss. If you experience problems though, turn down the boost.
The purchase of an AFC is recommended due to the kit wanting to run rich at altitude, but at sea level it performs awesome. Please be open to ask questions, I will contact him and ask any questions that I don't know the answer to. You may see a dramatic increase in performance and efficiency with the use of a fuel tuner.

Head Kits (Turbo and NA) for I4: Retail: $1650 - $1350
Includes:
Core Deposit: $500 (refunded when old head is sent to GUDE)
- Bored Throttle Body w/ Oversized Butterfly
- Ported Intake Manifold
- Ported & Polished Head
- Racing Valve Grind
- Cam Grinding (Turbo or NA)
- High Compression Radius Chamber (Low Compression for Turbo Application)


OHH AND ADAM... READ THIS!
Applications and Info:
Works for 5-speed Tiburon’s and Elantra’s with MAP based engines. As far as an automatic goes, the automatic tranny should be able to hold the 200 HP at 6.5psi without any problems, although, the figures may be lower due to higher percentage of drivetrain loss

so have fun with your gude system...
seems to be a waste of money if youre gettin a turbo thatll put less then 200 for you...
im guessin you jus wanna get a turbo so oyu can say you have turbo... instead of actually gettin a good set up

now gude is good their products are quality....
but seems worthless

nisco, automatic trannies are better for dragging. instant shifts.

just get the thing sent off to level 10 for a build up. it will be costly, but worth it. or just swap the tranny out, it shouldnt be to hard.

auto trannies are good i know... but you lose power in the drive train!
...thats where all the power gets lost...
so his 3 grand+ system will be absolute crap

the faster shifts would make up for the lost power. and also knowing almost exactly what you will run will help bigtime when bracket racing.

...not really
the i4 is ai heavy piece of shit
and is utterly useless....
if it were lighter.. then yeah itll help
but adding all that shit.. then internal work.. and what not youre still adding weight
and later too much boost no more daily driver
...i4s day for being teh better engine is over now that there is more for teh v6
...sucks to be a beta!

that there is no spool up time however you lose hp in order to gain the hp (it takes hp away from the engine in order to turn the super chargers turbine)

A turbo charger also takes power to operate. It creates back pressure witch causes you to "lose hp in order to gain the hp" There is no such thing as a free lunch.

Also a super charger has some more advantages over a turbo becides insta-boost. It supplies much colder air, because it is not running off the exaust.

But the main advantage of a turbo is with a boost controler you can dial how much boost you want (So nisco you do not have "too much boost no more daily driver") You could dial down it to 4psi for putting around town then crank it up to 15psi if some punk wants to race. Also with a tubro your pretty much not limited to how much boost you can make. The max you are going to get out of a super charger is probly going to be around 12psi.

...it only takes one wrong spool to make everything blow!

so thats what i mean by no more daily driver
you use too much cause youre dumb if your engine cant handle it..
so everything blows
anf you have no car

...it only takes one wrong spool to make everything blow!

so thats what i mean by no more daily driver
you use too much cause youre dumb if your engine cant handle it..
so everything blows
anf you have no car

thats retarded.

just like saying...

in my n/a modded delta, i accidently shifted down to 2nd instead of 4th, but its the engines fault.

anyone that accidently sets boost to high cause they are retarded shouldnt have modded their car in the first place.

nisco... I'll tell you what... my car will be out of the shop on July 13th. At that point I will be turbo charged & intercooled with a CO2 system for the intercooler. In addition I'll be running with forged internals and a complete head package. Expected dyno should be just above 300bhp.... like you said, ONLY 250 at the wheels right? Well, if you're so sure of yourself why don't we pick somewhere between us to meet and race. Winner goes home with both titles. The gauntlet is thrown... care to accept?

the i4 is ai heavy piece of shit

Auctly the v6 tiburons weights 100lbs more then the i4 model.

i never said teh v6 wasnt heavy... im saying for the i4 for such a small engine car its heavy....

i never said teh v6 wasnt heavy... im saying for the i4 for such a small engine car its heavy....

Truth be known the tiburon, both I4 and V6 models, is one of the heaviest cars in the import tuner class. Just about the only thing heavier is the 3000GT which isn't even in production any more. There are a few others that are around the same weight but I can't remember them anymore. One thing is certain, compared to the Dodge Neon R/T the tiburon is an over weight b#@ch that seriously needs to go on a diet.

adam, at 250, you're getting close to the point where you need to go stand alone. the stock ecu cant handle reading that much air, and you wont be getting enough fuel, even with a piggyback system. atleast on a beta I, maybe the beta II ecu is a bit different though.

adam, at 250, you're getting close to the point where you need to go stand alone. the stock ecu cant handle reading that much air, and you wont be getting enough fuel, even with a piggyback system. atleast on a beta I, maybe the beta II ecu is a bit different though.

Complete stand alone fuel management and engine management systems are being installed
turbo/intercooler system w/CO2 intercooler mist and boost controller
port and polish "everything"
dual header back exhaust
big bore throttle
cams
Forged internals
tranny and drive train build

I don't have the rest of the list with me but that's a majority of the important components that are getting fitted and installed. Some of it is being custom build just for my car so it's getting pretty pricey but who cares... I've got the cash for it. When it's all on I will be having it tuned on a dyno and will post the results here. As I've said before, we're expecting a minimum of 300bhp but are hoping to actually have 300 at the wheels. Only other thing that I plan on doing for now will be getting a big brake system and sport tuning the suspension a little. All in all, I'll be adding about 150lbs to my car which will put me weighing about the same as a stock V6 with close to double the power. When I save more money I will be doing more... my goal is to run close to the same speed than our dual motor friend but with only one motor.... probobly pretty unrealistic but I've gotta have something to strive for or I will get bored. LOL

Any other questions, comments or concerns please post them here.

take out teh spare tire and jack... remove the trunk lining... and back seats... that reduces so much weight its funny...
c/f hood light weight rims...

1. the dragonsys tib was running methanol. just though id say.

2. i wouldnt take out the spare tire if youre gonna be driving around on the street. it is a big part of the rear accident crush design for when you get slammed in the butt.

for when you get slammed in the butt
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that was the funniest shit i read all week!
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i need more of that in my life...
well not teh butt slamming but the funny jokes