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200 hp in 1999 eclipse rs ???


95eclipse-gsx
02-13-2004, 05:39 PM
hi there...
i just want to know whether is it possible to get 200hp in a 1999 rs without adding a turbo kit into it??? it is a 1999 rs with 50000 miles in it... i dont have enough money rite now...thats why i dont want to talk abt the turbo... if it is possible plz tell me the steps :) thanks

EclipseRST
02-13-2004, 05:48 PM
sure its possible, get nitrous! 75 shot kit should put you around 200hp, just make sure you do some fuel tuning and you will be fine!

95eclipse-gsx
02-13-2004, 05:51 PM
ok let me change the question a bit... this car is not for racing... its going to be a daily driving car... and should be able to go faster than a 1999 civic si and few integras... thats why... but no turbo and no nitrous... 200 hp possible?

ashah000
02-13-2004, 06:11 PM
Intake, full exhaust, header, jeep TB, crower cams, indy intake manifold

That should get you over 215 hp, but will cost you close to 1500.
Even with out the indy intake manifold you should be over 200 hp.
(sorry if my hp estimates are off)

FourG63 97GST
02-14-2004, 12:05 AM
since you dont want to spend
200hp is not for you

95eclipse-gsx
02-14-2004, 12:13 AM
:D there is no rule like that :) plus i am driving a gsx now... but due to few personnal problems i have to buy this rs as a daily driver.. so i thought it would be nice to have some more power with it :)

87Porsche951
02-14-2004, 02:22 AM
Increase displacement and instal supporting mods. and you should be well over 200bhp.

amdsoldier
02-14-2004, 01:27 PM
Intake, full exhaust, header, jeep TB, crower cams, indy intake manifold

That should get you over 215 hp, but will cost you close to 1500.
Even with out the indy intake manifold you should be over 200 hp.
(sorry if my hp estimates are off)

May I ask whats a jeep TB?

And cams, don't they wear out the engine quicker?

amdsoldier
02-14-2004, 01:28 PM
Increase displacement and instal supporting mods. and you should be well over 200bhp.

I dunno where to even start with this one... a link to where I can get a newbie introduction? This certainly sounds interesting, but how much would something like this cost anyway?

ashah000
02-14-2004, 01:47 PM
May I ask whats a jeep TB?

And cams, don't they wear out the engine quicker?

A jeep TB is what is says a throttle body out of a jeep, it is a 60mm TB.
I am not sure if camshafts wear out the engine quicker... anyone know.

ashah000
02-14-2004, 01:57 PM
Here is a write up of the conversion...
http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html

FourG63 97GST
02-14-2004, 02:34 PM
I dont see why cams while wear the engine more, actually it should put less wear on it since the lifters work less :biggrin:

amdsoldier
02-14-2004, 03:09 PM
Here is a write up of the conversion...
http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html

Wow that is awesome.

But I did just have one question, because I'm pretty sure this will eat up more gas since it's taking in more air. But my question would be how much? Right now even with the CAI my mpg went down downhill somewhat, afraid to see how much of an affect this will be. But if it's nothing too drastic, I will probably be doing this within the next couple months. :D

And I heard from someone at work that cam gears make the car idle rough and somehow wear the engine quicker. If someone can clarify that, that would be great. :)

ashah000
02-14-2004, 03:44 PM
J/W how many miles do u get, cant be worse then mine, I am getting 19 mpg and that is when i keep it under 3k rpm. (I think it is time to clean the injectors.)

hehe i thought it would kill my gas mileage too...
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=35935&mode=full

And you are talking about, cam gears and I was talking about camshafts. 2 different things :biggrin:

And until you do that... you can make sure your current one is fully open.
http://www.2gnt.com/www/files/tbopen.htm

95eclipse-gsx
02-14-2004, 04:08 PM
i got another question too... is the exhaust downpipe the same for both rs and gst or is it different?

ashah000
02-14-2004, 04:24 PM
i got another question too... is the exhaust downpipe the same for both rs and gst or is it different?

Nope...the exhaust manifolds are different, so the dp wont fit.

95eclipse-gsx
02-14-2004, 04:26 PM
ok thanks... and what type of exhaust should i buy.. catback or anyother????? and also should the pipe be 2.5 or 3 inches???

ashah000
02-14-2004, 04:50 PM
ok thanks... and what type of exhaust should i buy.. catback or anyother????? and also should the pipe be 2.5 or 3 inches???

I think 2.5 is good for the non turbo cars. I have 2.5. Everyone I have heard of that got a 3" exhaust on non turbo and then went on and bought a header felt no difference or they felt a slight difference. But people with 2.5, felt a huge difference. (I will find out next weekend, I just ordered a 4-1 obx header) If you don't have emission tests you can, gut your cat or get a straight/test pipe. The 3" will make you lose a lot of low-end power.

87Porsche951
02-14-2004, 05:44 PM
Camshaft would not increase engine wear at all it just opens up the intake and exhaust valves more to allow for increase air flow. All power adders will decrease fuel economy. If you mod your engine and your engine starts to go into lean condition that means your making more power, just make sure you tune to run the extra fuel at that rpm and load. On a big displacement 4 cylinder 2 1/2" exhaust is the optimum size, any bigger you can actually hurt performance. 3" is good for turbo cars. If you want to increase the engines breathability go the whole 9 yards and get cam, throttle body, intake manifold, header and full exhaust. You want to do it all because if you do one and not the other your gonna still have a bottleneck in the flow of the engine. This is expectially important on turbo cars. Any increase of air flow will reduce turbo lag making the turbo get on full boost quicker. Im not a big fan of CAI because most of them out there are poorly designed and actually decrease power because there sucking in the engine hot air. CAI that work well are the ones that go down under the engine and pick up the air from under the car. It alsow helps to thermal wrap the headers. I know the Eclipse comes with a heat shield over the exhaust manifold.

Increasing the engine displacement can be expensive expecially if you do it with a overbore but all good performance mods cost money. When you increase the displacement the other mods will allow for even bigger gains. If you do increase the displacement dont be cheap and rebuild the engine with stock componants. spend the extra money on better and heavy duty componants. You will save alot more money in the long run with reliability!

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