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i hit speed limiter today


mynismo
02-13-2004, 01:16 PM
coming home from a lil drive, i see this green 2000 max that comes up quickly. he starts to ride my ass a lil... i gun it and see if he's up for a run. i see him start to gun it as well, and i slow down a little because of a car in front of me. the car signals to turn right and does, and i downshift to 3rd to about 50mph, then gun it. he's gunning it too. shift to fourth, i have about 2-3 car lengths on him at about 80. im still full throttle in fourth, he's hanging with me a lil, but then the distance starts to grow between us. by about 110 i had 7-8 car lengths on him. i shift to 5th, and look down and i know im somewhere between 115 and 120. at first i thought the clutch slipped because all of a sudden it wasn't going anywhere... but then a min later i realized i had a speed limiter :) i think the 00 max is just about on par to the 97-98 mustang gt i raced, maybe even a tad quicker. those suckahs are quick :iceslolan

btw, my new exhaust system rocks. hopefully ill have some vids soon.

turbo2nr
02-13-2004, 06:18 PM
kool race maximas are fun cars.. can wait to see the picz..
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Ace$nyper
02-13-2004, 06:23 PM
err neato me like your ride.

jon@af
02-13-2004, 08:50 PM
kool race maximas are fun cars.. can wait to see the picz..
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w3rd dude, those pics should be good
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Chavez408
02-13-2004, 08:56 PM
we sure do want vids! :)

mynismo
02-13-2004, 10:37 PM
click my car in my sig... that'll take u to the pics

i almost hit limiter again coming home together, god this thing moves now. i raced my dude's 93 240sx about three weeks ago and i only took him by about 2-3 car lengths up to about 105, today i took him by a good 6 car lengths. ypipe rocks! my v6 is finally breathing.

i'll rig a mount for my camera in my car. mini tripod, duct tape, anything. i should have a couple vids soon.

Chavez408
02-13-2004, 11:19 PM
just becareful ;)

TatII
02-15-2004, 12:50 AM
your limiter is only at 120mph? hahaah thats just like mine. and i hit it soo often that i don't even in a race i will hit it as often as like 4-5 times cause it has soo much more go but that stupid limiter is holding me back. anyways back to the topic. i thought the maximas were limited at 135mph until the 01 model which has 17 inch rims and those were limited at 155.

BP2K2Max
02-15-2004, 12:06 PM
your limiter is only at 120mph? hahaah thats just like mine. and i hit it soo often that i don't even in a race i will hit it as often as like 4-5 times cause it has soo much more go but that stupid limiter is holding me back. anyways back to the topic. i thought the maximas were limited at 135mph until the 01 model which has 17 inch rims and those were limited at 155.
4th gen(95-99) gxe's are governed at 127 mph. 2k-2k1 are governed at 130 and the 2k2-2k3's are governe at 148mph. if you were to 1)swap out for an se/GLE ecu you'd get a 140 mph top speed or if you felt comfortable tinkering with your ecu's wiring harness you can get a higher top speed out of it: I think this "how to" is from maximadriver.com

This modification is easy. But beware, it does include mutilation of the factory ECU wiring harness...not for the squeamish.

1.Disconnect negative battery terminal.
2.remove ECU cover from passenger side footwall.
3.Loosen bolt in center of main ECU connector.
4.Unplug main ECU connector.
5.Remove snap-on plastic cover from ECU connector.
6.Locate PINK wire with BLUE stripe. (this wire is located on the right half of the connector when plugged in)
7.Cut PINK/BLUE wire.
8.Reassemble ECU connection.
9.Reconnect negative battery terminal.
10.Drive 140+ mph.

This modification will cause the "check engine" light to illuminate. If you check the codes, you will get 0104 (Vehicle speed sensor fault) and 0504 (A/T control unit fault). So far there have been no drivability problems
associated with this mod.

Enjoy.

Credit: -Ben Garner

mynismo
02-15-2004, 12:33 PM
ok so it is 127.. hmmm... maybe my clutch did slip then lol

i know about the cut wire in ecu mod, but i didn't want my check engine light to come on. i may try to rig something up with a switch so i can connect and disconnect.

but i don't see my self going 130mph+ that often ;) tops for me is usually around 110 (until i get a 12-13 sec car :) )

BP2K2Max
02-15-2004, 12:50 PM
when i had my 95 SE I raced my buddy in his 01 Acura CL-S and we shut down at 136 mph. that was the highest i ever went and it was only that one time. I'd have stopped sooner but i had started to gain on him and i got excited that i may beat a $32,000 acura in my 8 yr old max. I didn't though

not to go off topic but about you sig; does everyone and their mother ask if you drive a black maxima? and then look at you like you have 2 heads when you say "no, it's green". that plagued me for the whole 2-1/2 years i had my car, but that's the best color to get for that Gen max.

codebrn
02-15-2004, 02:34 PM
cool shit man. Nissans are great...but i think it's time for you to upgrade your ECU

mynismo
02-15-2004, 07:05 PM
not to go off topic but about you sig; does everyone and their mother ask if you drive a black maxima? and then look at you like you have 2 heads when you say "no, it's green". that plagued me for the whole 2-1/2 years i had my car, but that's the best color to get for that Gen max.
what's even funnier is that my max isn't green, it's blue

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:


i get everything from black, to blue, to green, to purple. to me (and the pics i shot) it is mainly dk blue and color-shifts between purple in the day and black at night.


AWESOME!!! I LOVE MY CAR COLOR. it's pimp.

topgear00
02-15-2004, 09:53 PM
the pic in the sig looks like color shift. its kinda cool.

mynismo
02-15-2004, 11:55 PM
yea its all stock paint too. can't remember if it's sapphire blue or neptune blue.

i got a sound clip for ya guys with the new exhaust. sorry the quality is poor but best i can do at the moment

http://northeastnissans.com/videos/maxrev1.wmv


im a poster boy for magnaflow's WOT sound :smokin:

-The Stig-
02-16-2004, 12:12 AM
It must be the poor quality, but that clip sounds just like the other clip you posted a while back of you mashing out.

In other words, it still sounds stock. :sly: :dunno:



Anybody else feel the same? I know it's not, but it just doesn't sound it in the clip.

codebrn
02-16-2004, 09:08 AM
that sound clip is kinda odd..it should be longer..and why don't you just record the sound and not video of you driving down a random street.

BP2K2Max
02-16-2004, 11:22 AM
what's even funnier is that my max isn't green, it's blue

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2:


i get everything from black, to blue, to green, to purple. to me (and the pics i shot) it is mainly dk blue and color-shifts between purple in the day and black at night.


AWESOME!!! I LOVE MY CAR COLOR. it's pimp.
that's funny, it looks very similar to my paint and that was called "black emerald" but mine was definitely green.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=503/93341P1000078_2_-med.JPG
this pic doesn't do the paint justice, i'm sure yours is the same way, but you can kinda see how it's not one solid color especially where the sun is refelcting. it looks much better in person. they defintiely had some nice paints available for these cars. my friend just picked up a 97 max and he got the blue-grey color, which is also very pimp, i must say

Polygon
02-16-2004, 11:24 AM
If you think 127 MPH is bad, my Vision is limited at 110.

BTW: Nice kill!

fatninja19
02-16-2004, 08:09 PM
Good kill, I cant wait for some better sound clips. 8]

mynismo
02-17-2004, 06:00 PM
that's funny, it looks very similar to my paint and that was called "black emerald" but mine was definitely green.

this pic doesn't do the paint justice, i'm sure yours is the same way, but you can kinda see how it's not one solid color especially where the sun is refelcting. it looks much better in person. they defintiely had some nice paints available for these cars. my friend just picked up a 97 max and he got the blue-grey color, which is also very pimp, i must say
whats even funnier is that today, when i came out of walmart i went to look for my car. i walked right past it... i thought it was green! lol


It must be the poor quality, but that clip sounds just like the other clip you posted a while back of you mashing out.

In other words, it still sounds stock. :sly: :dunno:

Anybody else feel the same? I know it's not, but it just doesn't sound it in the clip.
its the best sound clip i could get. in real life its louder. its not a huge difference but it does sound mean in real life.


If you think 127 MPH is bad, my Vision is limited at 110.

BTW: Nice kill!
nice :p

i found out it wasn't the speed limiter, but the clutch - http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/2214

problem with the friction material.


it happened again today. i came across a brand new 350z. some old guy was driving it. im not going to make a new post about it because i will probably get buttraped for saying that i beat a 350z, but i think i took it :biggrin: at about 115 i was about two car lengths ahead (from our 60mph start in 4th gear). coulda happened if it was an auto, because the 5spds only run 14.3's. hit 119 and the speed instantly dropped to less than 110. same thing that happened when i raced the maxima. owell.... i shouldn't be going that fast anyway, and i usually win races before 100 anyways. past that its just for show ;)

RACER D12
02-17-2004, 06:20 PM
So way does your clutch slip at high speeds and not at low speeds?

-The Stig-
02-17-2004, 07:22 PM
it happened again today. i came across a brand new 350z. some old guy was driving it. im not going to make a new post about it because i will probably get buttraped for saying that i beat a 350z, but i think i took it :biggrin: at about 115 i was about two car lengths ahead (from our 60mph start in 4th gear). coulda happened if it was an auto, because the 5spds only run 14.3's. hit 119 and the speed instantly dropped to less than 110. same thing that happened when i raced the maxima. owell.... i shouldn't be going that fast anyway, and i usually win races before 100 anyways. past that its just for show ;)



I doubt the 350z let you win. My friend has a completely stock 2003 350z with 6speed and we beat a I/H/E Eclipse GS-T on the freeway from an 80mph roll to 130mph. We were about 10 car lengths ahead.

350z's are insanely fast on the highway... they'll do well over 140mph and not sweat it.

90Stangjc
02-17-2004, 09:12 PM
So way does your clutch slip at high speeds and not at low speeds?
Yeah that's how it works. Weird aint it? Your clutch will start to slip in fifth, then it will go down to 4th, 3rd, 2nd, then 1st.

RACER D12
02-17-2004, 09:24 PM
Yeah that's how it works. Weird aint it? Your clutch will start to slip in fifth, then it will go down to 4th, 3rd, 2nd, then 1st.


So this is a early sign that he is going to need a clutch? I tell you I learn something new here every day :biggrin:

mynismo
02-17-2004, 09:47 PM
So way does your clutch slip at high speeds and not at low speeds?
only when i hit 119mph, then it slips :mad:

So this is a early sign that he is going to need a clutch? I tell you I learn something new here every day :biggrin:
the clutch has about 2k on it. its pretty damn new. i know i beat on it a but since i put it in but its very strong.

it only slips in 5th at very high speeds, and that's a known problem with the 95 clutch. dumbass me i researched this before i bought the car, clutch went the next day (i bought it with a bad clutch), and then my mechanic put in the 95. i wish he woulda put one in made for a 96 since it was corrected that year, but i thought nothing of it. i thought they recalled the 95's and replaced it with the 96's. i guess not. :mad: :mad:

owell no going over 120 by me at full acceleration... i just gotta remember to take my foot off the gas when i hit 115 so it doesn't put any extra wear on the clutch.

I doubt the 350z let you win. My friend has a completely stock 2003 350z with 6speed and we beat a I/H/E Eclipse GS-T on the freeway from an 80mph roll to 130mph. We were about 10 car lengths ahead.

350z's are insanely fast on the highway... they'll do well over 140mph and not sweat it.
i dont know man. i researched and the 5spd's are supposed to run 14.3's with a good driver, and my car's hitting about a 14.5 with my driving in it. if it's an auto i think i may have taken him. i believe the 6spds are faster

-The Stig-
02-18-2004, 01:26 AM
i dont know man. i researched and the 5spd's are supposed to run 14.3's with a good driver, and my car's hitting about a 14.5 with my driving in it. if it's an auto i think i may have taken him. i believe the 6spds are faster



The 350z doesn't come in a 5 speed manual, only 6 speed manuals. They come with a 5 speed automatic.


A 350z will out right murder you in every vehicular contest. I have seen the power of a 350z first hand and I'm very impressed.


And I hate to say this, Cause Mark you're cool but... How do you know you're hitting about 14.5 in the quarter? Have you been back to the track yet with your new bolt ons?

Self
02-18-2004, 01:40 AM
The 350z doesn't come in a 5 speed manual, only 6 speed manuals. They come with a 5 speed automatic.


A 350z will out right murder you in every vehicular contest. I have seen the power of a 350z first hand and I'm very impressed.


And I hate to say this, Cause Mark you're cool but... How do you know you're hitting about 14.5 in the quarter? Have you been back to the track yet with your new bolt ons?

This Matt agrees with the Matt above. 14.5 in a fwd(Max's are fwd, right? correct me if I'm wrong) would require ~220whp. That's quite a bit. Are you making that? Isn't a '95 like 225 FLY hp stock!? That's a huge jump! A 350Z is no slouch, like he said. I too have experienced their go first hand.

mynismo
02-18-2004, 11:20 AM
14.5 in a fwd would require ~220whp.
no, there have been a lot of maximas that hit 14.5-14.6 with about 220 at the crank. maximas run 14.9 stock (my 15.4 was done three days after i bought the car and i was still learning stick. that was almost 6 months ago). couple that with a ypipe, intake, and 2.5" exhaust and you're easily running a 14.5. with fwd's there's less loss to the drivetrain than with rwd.

take this guy (http://www.cardomain.com/id/luckee2bhere), for example. just a ypipe and intake and he ran a 14.63. and i have a 2.5" exhaust on him and a sts. and he was pulling 2.4 60-ft's, i pulled off a 2.2 and 2.3 when i went last.

and with the z, edmunds (http://edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/101039/page004.html) says it runs a 14.6 with the 6spd. so i guess the 5spd is slower.


The 350z doesn't come in a 5 speed manual, only 6 speed manuals. They come with a 5 speed automatic.
did not know that...
A 350z will out right murder you in every vehicular contest. I have seen the power of a 350z first hand and I'm very impressed.
you haven't been in my car :) . also one of my friends who has a z28 was looking to buy a new car a few months ago. he test drove the z... with an auto. he took it out and said he wasn't impressed. then a couple weeks later he drove the stick. didn't like it much... decided not to get it. i heard z's take mods real good though.

And I hate to say this, Cause Mark you're cool but... How do you know you're hitting about 14.5 in the quarter? Have you been back to the track yet with your new bolt ons?
see above. the ypipe is a mighty bolt on. i plan on going in a few weeks when track opens up. i haven't been able to go because it's out of season. im going april 9 to norwalk right when it opens.




remember there was an old guy driving the z too. maybe he didn't know how to drive :icon16:

-The Stig-
02-18-2004, 04:08 PM
and with the z, edmunds (http://edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/101039/page004.html) says it runs a 14.6 with the 6spd. so i guess the 5spd is slower.

Road&Track (http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=469&page_number=2&preview=) got it to do 0 to 60 in 5.8 and 1/4 of 14.4 @ 99.7mph

Car and Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=18&article_id=3967&page_number=1) got it to do 0 to 60 in 5.4 seconds and through the quarter-mile in 14.1 @ 101 mph.


you haven't been in my car:)
I don't have to, It's a Maxima. :icon16:

also one of my friends who has a z28 was looking to buy a new car a few months ago. he test drove the z... with an auto. he took it out and said he wasn't impressed. then a couple weeks later he drove the stick. didn't like it much... decided not to get it. i heard z's take mods real good though.

Well, if he's coming from a Z28 of course the Z won't be that impressive. In a straight line, the Z28 has better downlow punch. Take the Z33 out on a twisty road or out on the freeway and he'd probably really enjoy it.


remember there was an old guy driving the z too. maybe he didn't know how to drive :icon16:

I tend to believe older people know how to drive better than younger people... mainly cause they've been around longer. Not always true, but around here there's a 70+ year old lady driving a 1997 SLP Z28 w/ LT4 and 6 speed. She tore up a GT Mustang... Funniest thing i'd ever seen. I was cheering like crazy.

carrrnuttt
02-18-2004, 04:56 PM
mynismo: Probably a better way of equating things is this:

I've beat a 2001 Maxima (stop and roll) by about, maybe a foot, as I posted a while ago. I've beat my friend's 1998 Maxima GXE (roll) auto by about 4 cars, and the same with a five-speed 1992 Maxima SE (roll) with 190HP (4 or so cars). The 2001 Max race I got was when I was still fairly new to my car.

I do not doubt for any moment that a race between our cars, even with your exhaust, will be a close one.

Yet, I won't even imagine hanging too closely with a 350Z, although I have never raced one.

The G35 5-spd-auto sedan, rated at 27 less horses than a 350Z, plus heavier than the 350, ran a solid 14.7 with Motor Trend behind the wheel.

The auto coupe, rated at 280HP, and still heavier than a 350, runs a solid 14.4. There was a story posted a while back by R1-Rider, where he and his friend with a '93 Cobra did some roll-on races (click here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=180541&highlight=G35)). Ask him if he thinks a Maxima can hang, or beat his car.

I hate to be mag-racing, but one of the the latest issues of MT has a comparo where they took a 350Z to 13.77 @ 100.94 MPH.

youngvr4
02-18-2004, 05:23 PM
? is the maxima faster than the 03 altima cause the altima ran a 14.8

and also there can be plenty of reasons he won, did the 350z downshift?
maybe he thought he was at 4000rpm and didn't need to downshift. i made that mistake once and got my doors blown off by a mercede's sl500.

Self
02-18-2004, 05:47 PM
no, there have been a lot of maximas that hit 14.5-14.6 with about 220 at the crank. maximas run 14.9 stock (my 15.4 was done three days after i bought the car and i was still learning stick. that was almost 6 months ago). couple that with a ypipe, intake, and 2.5" exhaust and you're easily running a 14.5. with fwd's there's less loss to the drivetrain than with rwd.

take this guy (http://www.cardomain.com/id/luckee2bhere), for example. just a ypipe and intake and he ran a 14.63. and i have a 2.5" exhaust on him and a sts. and he was pulling 2.4 60-ft's, i pulled off a 2.2 and 2.3 when i went last.

and with the z, edmunds (http://edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/101039/page004.html) says it runs a 14.6 with the 6spd. so i guess the 5spd is slower.


did not know that...

you haven't been in my car :) . also one of my friends who has a z28 was looking to buy a new car a few months ago. he test drove the z... with an auto. he took it out and said he wasn't impressed. then a couple weeks later he drove the stick. didn't like it much... decided not to get it. i heard z's take mods real good though.

see above. the ypipe is a mighty bolt on. i plan on going in a few weeks when track opens up. i haven't been able to go because it's out of season. im going april 9 to norwalk right when it opens.




remember there was an old guy driving the z too. maybe he didn't know how to drive :icon16:

Believe it when I see it. It's hard for me to believe that you can hang with a car that is DEAD EVEN if not a bit quicker on occasions than a Z28. Not going to believe it unless I see it with my own eyes. Not in a Maxima, never. Won't happen. And I think you estimate too much of a gain with your exhaust mods. You'd be lucky to see a .2 gain from ALL of them together. Get to the track. As of right now you're running a 15.4. How is it again that you smoked someone who's car runs a 14.1?? Riight. I drive a Z28 and was very impressed with the 350Z. It will run right there with a stock LT1. Lacks the torque of the LT1, but will run right even with it as fast as you want to push them.

-The Stig-
02-18-2004, 06:46 PM
I read somewhere that the Nissan Armada at 5200+lbs ran a 15.3 with 305hp. Where as the new Hemi Durango with 335hp and at about 5000lbs ran a 15.8.

Just though I'd throw that out there for comparison... seeing as a SUV can wax a Maxima. Kinda scary isn't it?


EDIT: Not just Maximas.. but most cars these days.

mynismo
02-18-2004, 11:35 PM
? is the maxima faster than the 03 altima cause the altima ran a 14.8.
the 3.5 alty's are faster than the 4th gen maximas by just a lil. and the newer max's are slightly faster than the 3.5's (except the 04s which run a 15.0 - why'd they make it slower?). the 2.5s are DOGS........

and also there can be plenty of reasons he won, did the 350z downshift?
maybe he thought he was at 4000rpm and didn't need to downshift. i made that mistake once and got my doors blown off by a mercede's sl500.
thats what im thinking



And I think you estimate too much of a gain with your exhaust mods. You'd be lucky to see a .2 gain from ALL of them together.
the ypipe and intake alone take off .3 sec, or about 20hp to the wheels. it does seem hard to believe but it's dyno proven (but not by myself, by others and others runs at the track). i have a complete mandrel bent ypipe, 2.5" exhaust, hi flow cat and open muffler (no restrictions). i spit out a lil cough of fire when it backfires at night. yay. im also running it rich with 94 gas.



and redneck you are right. those new suv's (esp. the armada) are mean nasty fast. that is very scary.


all the different times posted for the z have me to believe that it all depends on whose driving it. and those are all times WITH THE 6SPD... not with the 5spd auto. im thinking this guy had an auto, in which case im thinking i beat him.

carnutt. my one friend had an ser but it broke down before i could run him. his was fast, he ran a 15.2 all stock. not bad at all. with mods....... :uhoh: ........ it would be close. now i understand all your kills you posted a while back and how cool it is to kill people in your sleeper car :evillol:

Self
02-18-2004, 11:45 PM
the ypipe and intake take off .3 sec


Like I said...I think you're overestimating quite a bit. How is it that MY intake/header/eshaust combo only dropped my ET .3? Not only do I have more breathing work done, but I also have a motor that benefits MUCH more from the aforementioned modifications. You should go back to the track. I think you'll be sobered quite a bit

carrrnuttt
02-19-2004, 12:28 AM
all the different times posted for the z have me to believe that it all depends on whose driving it. and those are all times WITH THE 6SPD... not with the 5spd auto. im thinking this guy had an auto, in which case im thinking i beat him.

Actually, you would have been better served with youngvr4's assessment that it was a six-speed, and the guy did not downshift. My personal assessment, however, is he wasn't racing at all.

If he was an auto, all he had to do was mash the gas, and never worry about d-shifting, or missing a gear. The five-speed has taller gears too, better for freeway sprints.

carnutt. my one friend had an ser but it broke down before i could run him. his was fast, he ran a 15.2 all stock. not bad at all. with mods....... :uhoh: ........ it would be close. now i understand all your kills you posted a while back and how cool it is to kill people in your sleeper car :evillol:

Broke down? Jeesh. he must not have been taking care of his car. The internals of the SR20DE are almost bulletproof. There have been cars that got turbocharged for the first time at about 120K with no problems.

And yes, you see the light http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/sunglasses.gif. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY expects my car to be half as fast as it is...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/evil_lol.gif

joeB
02-19-2004, 02:27 AM
the 3.5 alty's are faster than the 4th gen maximas by just a lil. and the newer max's are slightly faster than the 3.5's (except the 04s which run a 15.0 - why'd they make it slower?). the 2.5s are DOGS........




03 - 04 3.5 SE Altimas are quite a bit faster than 4th gen Maximas.
03 - 04 3.5 SE Altima and 02 03 Maxima 3.5 are the same in speed. :grinno:

mynismo
02-19-2004, 10:51 AM
Like I said...I think you're overestimating quite a bit. How is it that MY intake/header/eshaust combo only dropped my ET .3? Not only do I have more breathing work done, but I also have a motor that benefits MUCH more from the aforementioned modifications. You should go back to the track. I think you'll be sobered quite a bit
yes, but your camaro doesn't come stock with 3 catalytic convertors and a whacked up air intake system

http://www.brian1.net/maxima/wsp_gen4ypipe/dscf5496.jpg

http://www.brian1.net/maxima/wsp_gen4ypipe/dscf5495.jpg

http://www.brian1.net/maxima/wsp_gen4ypipe/dscf5497.jpg

quite a difference. the ypipe is actually the header for our cars since they don't make one that's better than the stock one. and it puts out more topend than a header ever would for our car, especially coupled with a hi flow intake.

My personal assessment, however, is he wasn't racing at all.

Broke down? Jeesh. he must not have been taking care of his car. The internals of the SR20DE are almost bulletproof. There have been cars that got turbocharged for the first time at about 120K with no problems.
if he wasn't racing than he was following me simulatenously going 100 right behind me :evillol:

he ran it into a curb and it screwed up the frame, nothing with the engine. but i do know of someone over in parma who blew one sr20 from japan (brand new) and then took another u.s. spec one and blew that up too. of course he did a tad too much for it to handle (25+psi and built for 500+hp). it was running for about one day than it detonated.

carrrnuttt
02-19-2004, 11:34 AM
he ran it into a curb and it screwed up the frame, nothing with the engine. but i do know of someone over in parma who blew one sr20 from japan (brand new) and then took another u.s. spec one and blew that up too. of course he did a tad too much for it to handle (25+psi and built for 500+hp). it was running for about one day than it detonated.

Ouch about your friend's SE-R...

As for the motor problems, reading from Mike Kojima's articles (Turbo-mag writer, SR20 tech-head) at SE-R.net, you'd have to be almost trying to blow-up your motor to do so.

http://www.se-r.net/car_info/engine_performance_tuning.html#Crank,%20Rods,%20Be arings,%20Machining,%20Balancing,%20Coatings,%20Ma nifolds,%20etc.

Here's a short quote:

"The SR20 is blessed with a near bulletproof bottom end. The crank and rods are forged steel unlike the typical cast iron that most American motors run. The rod bolts are a beefy 9mm. The crank features rolled fillets, an uncommon strengthening operation used usually only for racing or heavy duty parts. The rod bolt registers are spot faced, leaving a generous amount of metal around the bolt holes, a traditional weak area in connecting rods.

Both the crank and rods are subjected to a severe shotpeening from the factory. Shotpeening microforges the surface of the part making it stronger and harder while leaving the interior soft and ductile. This step can improve the fatigue strength of a part by over 100% and is usually reserved for high end racing parts. The main caps are tied together with a stiff aluminum girdle which improves bottom end rigidity significantly. This feature is usually found in all out race motors. These design elements produce an engine that is nearly bulletproof. I have seen motors with over 100,000 miles on them with the factory honing marks still visible in the cylinder bores! The number of list members in the 100,000 Mile Club is a testament to the durability of the SR20."

mynismo
02-19-2004, 11:58 AM
yea that guy was running such a high boost and upgraded all internals, pistons, head, etc. with a stock bottom end. what happened is that he ran it rich and one of the cylinder walls was lined with something...... can't remember what. he must have thought the engine was an rb26 :)

Self
02-19-2004, 02:19 PM
yes, but your camaro doesn't come stock with 3 catalytic convertors and a whacked up air intake system


My car comes with an extremely restrictive breathing setup from the factory. You're telling me that your motor benefits more than mine breathing mods? I think you're mistaken. I went intake, headers, exhaust, high flow cat, and gained a bit over 3 tenths in the quarter. I say just go back to the track and get somes slips. I just have a feeling you're overestimating things some...

mynismo
02-19-2004, 04:59 PM
i definately will go to the track soon... but until then you can take a look at this maxima

http://www.cardomain.com/id/luckee2bhere

that's just about average for a 4th gen 5spd with a really good driver at the track

BP2K2Max
02-19-2004, 07:22 PM
My car comes with an extremely restrictive breathing setup from the factory. You're telling me that your motor benefits more than mine breathing mods? I think you're mistaken. I went intake, headers, exhaust, high flow cat, and gained a bit over 3 tenths in the quarter. I say just go back to the track and get somes slips. I just have a feeling you're overestimating things some...
dude we get 18 wheel hp from a ypipe and 19 lbs of tq. from 6K rpm on we get 30+hp gains.
this is with a cone filter vs with a y pipe and cone filter
http://www.motorvate.ca/auto/maxima/ypipe/images/ypipe_comp_ro_hp.jpg
this is the Torque curve for the same run:
http://www.motorvate.ca/auto/maxima/ypipe/images/ypipe_comp_ro_torq.jpg

http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/504-this is the full write up of the y pipe installation and all that. it has some nice vids of them dynoing the car.

isn't the saying "every 10 hp shaves off .1 seconds?" i think it's totally feasible.



this guy ran a 14.71 bone stockl in a 97 max
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=251853 i you comb through the archive of track times you'll find anywhere from 14.4-15 flat for a 4th gen 5 speed.

mynismo
02-19-2004, 09:54 PM
thank you, thank you. also of note that between 5k and 6k there is a steady rise from a 20hp gain to the 30hp gain.

not much of a gain down low, but its far made up for itself up top.

mynismo
02-19-2004, 10:18 PM
when i was browsing around that guy's site, i also found something else that's quite interesting. the effects of the bpipe and ypipe put together

Stock w/Stillen Cone
vs
Stillen Cone and Y-pipe
vs
Stillen Cone, Y-pipe & B-pipe
http://www.motorvate.ca/auto/maxima/dyno/images/y+b_dyno_hp.jpg
http://www.motorvate.ca/auto/maxima/dyno/images/y+b_dyno_tq.jpg

http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/522


+6hp/tq throught the whole band. couple that with a hi flow cat... you're looking at almost 30hp to the ground peak gain, and throughout the WHOLE powerband.

its incredible how the maxima responds to mods.

carrrnuttt
02-19-2004, 11:30 PM
Nissans must be really shackled from the factory.

There's a guy in the Sentra forums who has an SE-R like mine. He went from a stock run of 15.6 to a 14.7 by just waking-up the SR20 with a lightweight flywheel and a grippier clutch.

Also, I/H/E SE-Rs have been known to go mid 14's.

ZackKVtec
02-20-2004, 12:47 AM
that is incredible, i would barely see those kind of gains from a 700 dollar pair of camshafts

BP2K2Max
02-20-2004, 12:11 PM
I hope my vq35 responds similarly. we already have a y pipe showing 12 fwhp gains and some headers showing around 18. our pre-cats are on the headers not the downpipe so we don't get such drastic gains.

My biggest regret was getting rid of my 95. i should have kept it as a project car. that thing was deceptively fast. with a y pipe and mevi i can almost guarantee a 4th gen 3.0 would beat a 3.5.

carrrnuttt
02-20-2004, 01:49 PM
I hope my vq35 responds similarly. we already have a y pipe showing 12 fwhp gains and some headers showing around 18. our pre-cats are on the headers not the downpipe so we don't get such drastic gains.

My biggest regret was getting rid of my 95. i should have kept it as a project car. that thing was deceptively fast. with a y pipe and mevi i can almost guarantee a 4th gen 3.0 would beat a 3.5.

You do know that the Nismo cams, or even the stock 350Z cams will work for your version of the VQ35DE, right?

BP2K2Max
02-20-2004, 04:45 PM
You do know that the Nismo cams, or even the stock 350Z cams will work for your version of the VQ35DE, right?
i do now. :iceslolan

mynismo
02-20-2004, 08:30 PM
im saving mevi and ecu as upgrades for next yr, i already put too much money into it this yr.

i love the early 4th gen, i'd pick it over a 01/02 anyday. too bad you sold ur baby

BP2K2Max
02-20-2004, 09:03 PM
it's funny, when i bought my y pipe from budget they accidentally shipped me 2. when they called to tell me, they said that they would not charge my credit card for the second and i could keep it free of charge becase they didn't wanna pay to have it shipped back to canada and they didn't expect me to. i think the lady messed up and didn't want to tell anyone, either way i still have it. one kid offered me a hundred bucks for it but i turned him down. i guess i've been subconsciously hoping to come across another obd-1 5 speed 4th gen for right around $2500-$3K so i can buy it and slap that y pipe on there.

mynismo
02-20-2004, 09:34 PM
if they shipped you two... someone's telling you something ;)

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