Maybe selling my Civic for a Teg...

Yep..it's true...SOHC Civics are S L O W! I was thinking about an Si...10k+ is just too much for a mere 160hp.

Anyway...I drove my friend's new (93) Integra GS with nothing done to it except a Stage2 clutch...damn that thing would smoke my lil economy car...and the clutch catches like no other XD

So should I go thru with it? I want a 90-93 teg (B18A1) and to put a B16 head on it...will this work right?

Just trying to get some last minute advice on whether I should do it or not...

I posted a thread similar to this in the 92+ Civic forum...but of course they all said "stay with the civic it can be fast!!11oneone turbo it! do this do that blah blah"

Just wanted to get a second opinion...thanks.

I think you could do a motor swap in the civic for less money and have a car that would be faster than an integra.

i think you should buy an itr from ebay and call it a day :)

The money I use for the teg would be from selling my car though...and how would it be faster? The 90-93 Integra LS is a whopping 40 lbs lighter than the 92-95 Civic Ex...

Also..
DOHC > SOHC

I've found a few that I like around my area....One of them is sick..its black and lowered (just my style) with rims and it all looks hella clean and nice...but it has 215k miles on it...you think I'll be ok with that?

If I do get a teg I'm gonna replace the head, intake, intake manifold, exhaust, and header...should I have anything else to worry about having that much miles?

Also, when the head is off I will prolly replace some small parts here and there....sorta rebuild.

man dont go with that teg, thats way to many miles, and chances are if its already modded, its been raced or atleast driven very hard, so thats way to many miles, but yes do what whtteg said and put a GSR motor in your civic, it should bet other integras no prob.

the car doesnt have anything under the hood..its just lowered..but yeah 215k miles is too much

i found a couple others...

i would do all this stuff to my civic but i dont have ANY money...the teg im getting is gonna be from selling my civic...

look my honest opinion is to stay with honda. i own a '97 teg and i love every bit of it. but if your looking power to weight ratio. it is better to spend less on a crx or civic hatch. then purchasing a low mileage gsr engine. max power... low weight. i can tell you this, i will always own a teg for power and looks combo so it is up to you.

i also like how the 90-93 tegs look...ppl think im dumb but i think they look sweet...

the main reasons im not staying with a civic is first..its a SOHC..and i dont wanna pay that much for a DOHC civic...and second its a civic..everyone and their brother has one..and everyone always wants to race and im tired of losing to freakin pick up trucks...

conclusion: DOHC > SOHC

NOOOO I MISSED MY 200TH POST PARTY! oh well..heres to my 201st post partayyy kbye

First off Kinked210, not everyone in the 92+ Civic forum said

but of course they all said "stay with the civic it can be fast!!11oneone turbo it! do this do that blah blah"

Many people suggested swaping in a b-series motor. I see the same suggestion was made in here too. You say you don't want to pay "10K for a DOHC Civic." I don't blame you, I am not paying 10grand for an SI either. However, you can get a "DOHC Civic" for MUCH LESS than 10 grand. The answer? Swap in a B-series motor. For 2-4K (depending on motor, year, mileage, install costs if you don't know how to DIY) you can make your civic a "DOHC Civic."

One of the main factors to consider is this...you were going to sell your civic for a 90-93 with 215K on it and lowered? First off, the mileage is way to high, IMO. Second, as someone else said, the mods "already done" most likely indicate the car was driven hard. Now I have a modded car and I don't beat the hell out of it by any means, but the point is most people do. 3rd, did he even lower it properly? You don't want to by other peoples problems, and that's what you'd be doing. If he lowered it with just springs and not new shocks, for example, you'll need new shocks, as the stock ones will be blown. Also, if he lowered it much beyond 1.75" and didn't have a camber kit, it'll wear out those pricy tires quickly. The point is, be careful what you buy. Be careful you are not buying someone elses problems created by incompetent modifying (I have seen a lot of incompetent modifying over the years).

As I touched on in the other post, and someone mentioned in here, the power/weight ratio will be greater in the civic, with the same motor swapped it. Now you already have the civic, so if you just keep it until you can afford the swap, no worries...you have the car, your half way there. Weight plays a factor in speed. A 170HP GSR will be quicker in a 2100 5th gen DX hatch than in a 2500-2700 Integra. The reason is the curb weight. The civic is several hundred pounds lighter, therefor the motor has less weight to pull up to speed. That translates into a quicker car (just like your car is slower when you have 3 friends in it).

Now I am not bashing Integras by any means. If you didn't have either yet, this would be a whole different story. However, you have a Civic already. I would just keep it, save up my $$ and swap in a B-series. You haven't mentioned FI as your goal for the motor, so a GSR is a good choice in that sense. The Benifit of this is simple. The GSR will be a low mileage engine, tranny, and ecu. 30K on a GSR motor swapped in (just an example number, mileage varies) will have much less wear and tear than a high mileage 90-93 LS, like that 215K one you looked at. Remember, in general, you want lower mileage, not higher mileage, on a motor. If you can't afford a swap, then as I said, just save your $$. You don't need the motor today. Your motor may be slow, but it runs.

Now if you want an Integra? Of course there not bad cars, otherwise we wouldn't be suggestion throwing the motor in to the civic, and half of us here wouldn't have one. But just sit back and think about what you really want to do, and what's in your best interest money wise. Don't make an impulse buy is what I am saying. If you decide to get an Integra, look for one that was well cared for, and has lower mileage. Also, do yourself a favor and look for one that wasn't modded. There is less of a chance it was driven hard and beaten up.

:iagree: couldn't have said it better myself. eckoman_pdx is the man. :bananasmi

yeah im not getting that one....it has too many miles...

but i did find another one..a 1993 black integra LS with only 96k miles on it..some old lady owns it...

i think thats what i want..cuz old ppl drive slow :)

and yes...eckoman is the man! ^_^

couldn't have said it better myself. eckoman_pdx is the man.

yeah im not getting that one....it has too many miles...

but i did find another one..a 1993 black integra LS with only 96k miles on it..some old lady owns it...

i think thats what i want..cuz old ppl drive slow

and yes...eckoman is the man! ^_^

Thank you, thank you...*takes a bow*
It's nice to see I am appericated, lol.

On a side note, you know what I would do, but at least that car has less milegae on it. Do yourself a favor and have a pre-purchuse inspection done before you buy it though(or any other car you are going to buy). Have someone run a Compression check in all the cylinders, this will tip you off as to the condition of the engine, etc. Check the condition of the brakes, find out from the owner if you can how often roution mantience was done and when the timing belt and water pump where done last, etc (If the timing belt brakes while you are driving, it will most likly ruin the motor, if you don't know when it was done last when you by the car, I always say it's best to just replace it, it's better safe than sorry with something like this). If you don't know how to inspect a car and run a compression check, or don't have the tools check any of it, have someone you trust who does good work check it out. It's better to try and know as much as you can before you buy a car, so you don't end up with any costly suprises.

96k miles on a 93teg well now I think youve found yourself a car to turbo...next step is go to www.g2ic.com SEARCH the forums grab all the knowledge you can and away you go

i called the granny today..they sold the one with 96k miles on it :(

theres like no integras in the year that i want in my area..heres all the ones i found in the paper (one is from Auto Trader):

· 1990 Integra LS
·· Lowered
·· 133k miles
·· $2000

· 1991 Integra
·· $2900

· 1991 Integra LS
·· 163k miles
·· CD Player
·· $3300

· 1992 Integra GS
·· 152k miles
·· Exhaust
·· Alarm
·· CD Player
·· Rims
·· New Clutch
·· Front and rear body damage
·· $1700

That's all the listings from Saturday for the 90-93 Integras....there was a lot of like 96 or 97 GSR's for sale for the $9000 range...

Any of those sound good or should I just wait until something else comes along? It's confirmed though...my mom wants to buy my Civic because of the gas mileage..so I'll use that money for a teg...she's gonna give me $3000 for it.

Also I have a friend that said he would sell me his teg for $2000...but he said it has "electrical issues" and theres something wrong with the suspension..I forgot what he said it was...

but it has a new clutch and tranny in it...its not very clean either lol

I would wait for the right car to come along (actually, I'd just save up money and swap a motor into the civic, but that's me, lol). For the 9K price tag of a GSR, you can stick a lower mileage GSR into your car for WAY LESS. As for the 90-93 Integras, none of those are any I would buy. They all have higher milegage than I'd like to see, and/or they are lowered (see my post about that about for my opinion on that) to name a few things. Also, stay away from your friends car. I don't think you want any part in "electrical issues." Electrical problems can be a pain in the rear to diagnose and solve. For the same reason I suggested staying away from lowered and modified cars, stay away from his. "Suspension Issues." You are paying 2grand for his problems, and it will be up to you to pay the extra money to fix them. Just keep looking. You have a car in the mean time that works and gets you around. Stay patent and keep looking until the right buy comes along.

Yeah...its just so hard to stay patient cuz I'm always tempted to get new things done to my car but then I forget I'm selling it...I just want my teg! Cmon someone sell me their teg!

sure ill do that 92acuraattack...email me and ill tell u my address that u can send the $3000 to...

btw its not a swap..my car has a D16Z6 in it stock

Patientice is a virtue. It can be hard to stay patient, but it's worth it. You just gotta bite your tongue and wait it out until you find the right buy. You may want an Integra, but if you just buy one soon to buy one and you get too many miles, or any of the other numerous problems a car can have, you'll begin to miss the civic, which didn't have all those problems. What I am saying is, it's though, but just save your $$ and keep looking. That way, you'll also have a little bit of extra $$ to spend on parts for your integra once you get it. And you'll know that the car you got was a good buy, because you took your time and did your homework. The less patient you are, the more prone you are to buy a car because you just want it and not because it's a good reliable car. That's the last thing you want to occur.