wheelie questions
J-bandit
02-12-2004, 10:01 PM
I am new to the forum, but you guys seem to have a lot of good information. I have a suzuki 600s bandit and am interested in popping a few wheelies (small wheelies and highway wheelies). What is the best way to accomplish this? I have heard of pop-clutch wheelies and rolling the throttle. What is the best and will pop-clutch wheelies tear up your bike. Any info on wheelies would be appreciated.
EGcivicSi
02-13-2004, 01:03 AM
Well since you have a bandit im afraid the only way you can do it is pop it up using the clutch. You could always bounce it but thats a little scary for a first timer. Of course it isnt good for any of your bottom end parts but this is the only way you can learn. And remember its not gonna hurt much with just a few hours of learning, but this isnt something you want to keep up if possible. On your bike I really cudnt tell you how to do it because I dont know your power range and shit but id suggest going to a bandit forum and asking people for some pointers.
Xv7vX
02-13-2004, 11:58 AM
I would like to take this opportuinity to introduce you all to a favorite web site of mine
www.stuntlife.com
Everyone there is real nice and helpful, provided you admit you are new and dont know everything and you act nice and helpful. You can find more information on wheelies then you ever thought you would want to know.
But if I were to give out advice on wheelies it would go something like this...
Be sure you are practing somewhere far away from people and small animals. You wouldn't want to hurt someone if things start to go bad. Also make sure that the police are some where far away, eating doughnuts and wasting the tax payers money talking to each other. Because if you ever operate a motorcyle on one wheel it is a automatic reckless driving charge (at leasst in illinois)
Now take it slow until you are comfortable. Sit further back in the seat so your weight is more on the back than the front. Make sure you concentrate on every part of your body, because when the bike jerks up, people have a tendancy to freak out and kick there legs out or turn the front wheel or jam the throttle or loose the wheelie. Make sure your legs are firmly on the pegs and your hands are comfortable on the bars. One last safty tip. When you do come down, be SURE the the wheel is straight, if it is slightly left or right and you start to wobble it will be a domino effect and you will fall off and hurt your self.
There are three ways to stop a wheelie. One is to use the rear brake to slow the back tire and bring the front down. One is to stop the throttle loosing speed and bringing the wheel down, the last is falling off the back of the bike. You pick which one fits your personal style.
Now that you are concentrating on your body, sitting back in the seat there are three basic ways to do a wheelie.
Depending on the strength of your bike you could start out and get the RPM's into the power range, generally between 9-15k. Get up to about 9k and jam the throttle. This works on most modern bikes but yours may not have the power to do this.
The second is to bounce wheelie. This takes practice and timing, but once you get the hang it is the easiest and best for the bike. Once again start going and get to the power range. Now blip the throttle so the front of the bike comes up a little on the shocks. The front of the bike rises NOT comes off the ground. Think like when you gun the gas in your car. Now the front of the bike is higher on the shocks and the throttle is higher. Hold it here for about one second and let the throttle go, now the front of the bike is back compressed onto the shock. As you feel the bike compress again give it more throttle, The bounce of the shock combined with the extra throttle will make the front rise.
The third is to drop the clutch. Start rolling and put the clutch in rev the engine to the approiate RPM range, again generally the power range and let the clutch go. This is bad for the clutch along with almost every other part of the bike, which is why most of us have stunt bikes anyway.
Keep in mind that the exact steps will vary by rider and bike, which is why you should start slow and build up to the point where you can get the front up.
Hope this helps, and be sure the check out stuntlife, i'm sure they can explain the steps WAY better then I can.
As always my PM door is open is you have any detailed questions.
www.stuntlife.com
Everyone there is real nice and helpful, provided you admit you are new and dont know everything and you act nice and helpful. You can find more information on wheelies then you ever thought you would want to know.
But if I were to give out advice on wheelies it would go something like this...
Be sure you are practing somewhere far away from people and small animals. You wouldn't want to hurt someone if things start to go bad. Also make sure that the police are some where far away, eating doughnuts and wasting the tax payers money talking to each other. Because if you ever operate a motorcyle on one wheel it is a automatic reckless driving charge (at leasst in illinois)
Now take it slow until you are comfortable. Sit further back in the seat so your weight is more on the back than the front. Make sure you concentrate on every part of your body, because when the bike jerks up, people have a tendancy to freak out and kick there legs out or turn the front wheel or jam the throttle or loose the wheelie. Make sure your legs are firmly on the pegs and your hands are comfortable on the bars. One last safty tip. When you do come down, be SURE the the wheel is straight, if it is slightly left or right and you start to wobble it will be a domino effect and you will fall off and hurt your self.
There are three ways to stop a wheelie. One is to use the rear brake to slow the back tire and bring the front down. One is to stop the throttle loosing speed and bringing the wheel down, the last is falling off the back of the bike. You pick which one fits your personal style.
Now that you are concentrating on your body, sitting back in the seat there are three basic ways to do a wheelie.
Depending on the strength of your bike you could start out and get the RPM's into the power range, generally between 9-15k. Get up to about 9k and jam the throttle. This works on most modern bikes but yours may not have the power to do this.
The second is to bounce wheelie. This takes practice and timing, but once you get the hang it is the easiest and best for the bike. Once again start going and get to the power range. Now blip the throttle so the front of the bike comes up a little on the shocks. The front of the bike rises NOT comes off the ground. Think like when you gun the gas in your car. Now the front of the bike is higher on the shocks and the throttle is higher. Hold it here for about one second and let the throttle go, now the front of the bike is back compressed onto the shock. As you feel the bike compress again give it more throttle, The bounce of the shock combined with the extra throttle will make the front rise.
The third is to drop the clutch. Start rolling and put the clutch in rev the engine to the approiate RPM range, again generally the power range and let the clutch go. This is bad for the clutch along with almost every other part of the bike, which is why most of us have stunt bikes anyway.
Keep in mind that the exact steps will vary by rider and bike, which is why you should start slow and build up to the point where you can get the front up.
Hope this helps, and be sure the check out stuntlife, i'm sure they can explain the steps WAY better then I can.
As always my PM door is open is you have any detailed questions.
J-bandit
02-13-2004, 06:56 PM
Thanks guys, that answers a lot of my questions. I think I will try the bounce wheelie sometime. My friend has an r6 and says that he can help me learn too. thanks alot
Xv7vX
02-14-2004, 01:06 AM
Your welcome.
Good Luck
Good Luck
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