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Ignition upgrade for nitrous CRX


mrchris1979
02-12-2004, 01:52 AM
I have an '88 CRX SI with D16a motor and frequent use of 50 shot wet nitrous. My ignition is totally stock except for the colder spark plugs. I'm not familiar with ignition upgrades but I've seen the MSD systems. What do I need to get for more spark? I think I need the amplifier, coil and modified cap. I'm not sure what and which parts to get, so any advice will help before I buy. Thanks

whtteg
02-12-2004, 04:52 PM
With a 50 shot you really don't need an aftermarket kit. But if you want one you can use just the coil and the cap.

TEAM KLR
02-13-2004, 11:08 AM
i would recomend the following set up:

msd 6520 digital 6 $330 nitrous retard, two step and top end rev-limiters
msd 8208 blaster 2 coil $35.95 this one is better than the SS coil because it is oil filled and resists vibration
msd 82921 clear red dist cap $32.95
msd 32319 plug wires $65.00
spark plugs NGK BKR7E "pregaped 2 heat ranges colder than oem" $3.50 ea.

that is the best set up on the market for your application, we are an authorized dealer for MSD and keep all in stock, we can ship anywhere and match/beat prices. Thank You.

Mace Ward
KLR sport compact performance
4103 N. Broadway
Knoxville, TN 37917
865-688-8552 import sales dept.

whtteg
02-13-2004, 05:06 PM
MSD wires are shit! I would not recomend them. Also you expect him to spend $477.90 + tax and shipping to run a 50 shot of N20? You are crazy, and also what you are doint is considered spam and I will ask you to stop or I will report you!

mrchris1979
02-14-2004, 05:43 AM
I appreciate the parts list. I also thought the 6520 was more suitable for my application but I was not sure what else I needed with it. I will be contacting you soon. I'll was also thinking about using Nology wires. Once I have the motor built, I'll probably start messing with higher shots I just want to make sure I have enough spark to handle the boost.

thepolishmafia1337
02-14-2004, 05:54 AM
on a distributorless ignition wouldn't you need just the dis 6 and maybe higher capacity coil packs? if you had the blaster 2 wired in series with stock coil packs that would call for the fire department. not sure on this app if it has a distributor or not and if it does would it use a module since it is possibly cpu controlled? although it could still use a vacum advace and still be cpu controlled? ive never seen anyone hook up a blaster 2 coil to a import. that doesnt mean it cant be done but just curious on how that works. P.s. im well versed on hooking them up to points/condensor and HEI type ignitions.

93hybridaccord
02-14-2004, 07:00 AM
on a distributorless ignition wouldn't you need just the dis 6 and maybe higher capacity coil packs? if you had the blaster 2 wired in series with stock coil packs that would call for the fire department. not sure on this app if it has a distributor or not and if it does would it use a module since it is possibly cpu controlled? although it could still use a vacum advace and still be cpu controlled? ive never seen anyone hook up a blaster 2 coil to a import. that doesnt mean it cant be done but just curious on how that works. P.s. im well versed on hooking them up to points/condensor and HEI type ignitions.

Yes it does have a distributor and yes that coil will work since that's what I have. This coil looks a little different than what you are thinking about. This does sound like a good setup if you buy it. It's always a good idea to upgrade your ignition once you start adding a power adder such as nitrous or forced induction. Even if you don't have these things, it can't hurt to run a hotter spark.

thepolishmafia1337
02-14-2004, 07:16 AM
hey hybird, just out of curiosity did you have to remove a module from the distributor or is your engine controlled by crank/cam sensor? and if so where did you wire it into to operate along with the crank/cam sensors. just curious because i was thinking about putting my backup box onto my neon. it has a distributorless ignition but it cant be too much different than your car because all the distributor does in your car is put power thru the rotor button and into the right spot on the cap. it has noting to do with advancing the timing or firing the coil.

93hybridaccord
02-14-2004, 09:49 AM
Umm, to tell you the truth, I can't remember. I can take a look later on and see, but I believe the ignition box wires go to the coil and to the battery. I believe there is another wire, but I can't remember where it goes off hand. I'll let you know.

TEAM KLR
02-14-2004, 11:05 AM
first off to answer the question posed by polish maff
we used the blaster ss coil alot when if first came out, the problem is i always tell my customers to buy two in case the first one goes out. haha the blaster 2 coil last 10 times longer because it is oil filled, just not as attractive.

now to address white teg. WTF is your problem. if the man ask a question i will help him out with the info that i have. he is not forced to purchase anything from me. by giving him these prices and part # he now has a baseline to go by when he goes to make his purchase. that is why i included the part #'s, so he could check else where or where ever he usually makes his purchases. spam is multiple posts to hit a large # of people with the same message.
i do not expect him to do this stuff. he asked what ignition to run, the items that i listed are the best for his application and for the $$$. I have been selling MSD wires for 35 years and they are "the shit" there are better out there but not for $65.00 oooo there i did it again, sorry about the "spam" and when you get done reporting me i got something to report in your mouth.

jcrx
02-14-2004, 11:32 AM
I have been selling MSD wires for 35 years and they are "the shit" there are better out there but not for $65.00 oooo there i did it again, sorry about the "spam" and when you get done reporting me i got something to report in your mouth.
Funny how you have been selling something for about 15 years longer than the company has been around. Autotronic Controls Corp. was founded in 1970, and MSD came about even later. And you need to keep your attitude to yourself. If you notice this site and almost all others have PAYING sponsors that pay monthly/bi monthly/yearly fees to advertise their products, so don't get in a pissing match with someone that is pointing out that you are cheating the real vendors here.

TEAM KLR
02-14-2004, 12:09 PM
listen we have been in business for 35+ years, so my numbers are alittle off, the point is i was trying to help this guy out and i get slammed, my attitude is a direct response to his attitude! if i need to become a "real vendor" i would i have too much already to worry about scrapping for sales here. again, the pricing is to give him a baseline to compare to. if he is paying more than the prices i listed it is too much, if he finds it cheaper great!!!! it just pisses me off when these people take this fourm stuff so seriously, it is not like we are at a dinner table where etiquette is important. mind your own buisness and try to help those that don't know as much as you, that is what these fourms are for. so where did i go wrong? was it the fact that i replied? the prices? the part #'s what was it. tell me master so i can keep from pissing you people off ever again.

whtteg
02-14-2004, 03:54 PM
listen we have been in business for 35+ years, so my numbers are alittle off, the point is i was trying to help this guy out and i get slammed, my attitude is a direct response to his attitude! if i need to become a "real vendor" i would i have too much already to worry about scrapping for sales here. again, the pricing is to give him a baseline to compare to. if he is paying more than the prices i listed it is too much, if he finds it cheaper great!!!! it just pisses me off when these people take this fourm stuff so seriously, it is not like we are at a dinner table where etiquette is important. mind your own buisness and try to help those that don't know as much as you, that is what these fourms are for. so where did i go wrong? was it the fact that i replied? the prices? the part #'s what was it. tell me master so i can keep from pissing you people off ever again.
I have multiple problems with you and what you are doing. 1st you are doing nothing but going to posts where people want help not a sales pitch, you reccomend things that they do not need, and you might be directing them in the wrong direction because you are tring to sell them something. 2nd almost every post I see you reply in you are tring to sell something, even when people are not asking to buy anything. and 3rd you are cheating the paying vendors. You have already been reported to the site admin, we will se what he says about it :icon16:

jcrx
02-14-2004, 05:04 PM
the point is i was trying to help this guy out and i get slammed, ... it just pisses me off when these people take this fourm stuff so seriously, ... mind your own buisness and try to help those that don't know as much as you, that is what these fourms are for. so where did i go wrong? was it the fact that i replied? the prices? the part #'s what was it. tell me master so i can keep from pissing you people off ever again.
You need to lighten up ace. You are causing problems and acting like a victim. If you want to sell something, USE THE FUCKING CLASSIFIEDS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!!!! These forums are a great way for people to get information, and don't need to be cluttered by jackass' that don't know how to use them and run through posting up their for sale ads all over. If your business is doing so damn good then stick to information, become a vendor and support the site, and leave your sales pitch where it belongs, it's that simple.

mrchris1979
02-16-2004, 05:56 AM
I appreciate the info KLR and to everyone else that posted comments regarding KLR's actions should have just been reported to the administrator. Do your job and report problems and let the admin. deal with it accordingly. All this trash talk makes this forum a joke. I'm sure KLR got the point after the first comment. My original post was to get parts info, so if it included costs and where to buy, it is still justified as information, not direct sales. Anyway thanks to all that gave USEFUL info.

jcrx
02-16-2004, 10:54 AM
I appreciate the info KLR and to everyone else that posted comments regarding KLR's actions should have just been reported to the administrator. Do your job and report problems and let the admin. deal with it accordingly. All this trash talk makes this forum a joke. I'm sure KLR got the point after the first comment. My original post was to get parts info, so if it included costs and where to buy, it is still justified as information, not direct sales. Anyway thanks to all that gave USEFUL info.
Sites are not free, and sponsor and PAYING vendors help keep them alive. There is no reason for someone to take advatage of them to promote his own business when not returning profits that could arise from his ads on a site.

whtteg
02-16-2004, 06:38 PM
I appreciate the info KLR and to everyone else that posted comments regarding KLR's actions should have just been reported to the administrator. Do your job and report problems and let the admin. deal with it accordingly. All this trash talk makes this forum a joke. I'm sure KLR got the point after the first comment. My original post was to get parts info, so if it included costs and where to buy, it is still justified as information, not direct sales. Anyway thanks to all that gave USEFUL info.

See we are not complaining about just one or two times, we are talking about alomost every post is a way of tring to sell something to someone. Look at this post http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=187846 the guy who started the thread did not come close to asking for a place to buy anything. He wanted technical info, not a sales pitch. If you cannot see what this guy is doing then you are really naive.

TEAM KLR
02-18-2004, 10:49 AM
MRCHRIS, thank you and i appreciate your rash comments.
#1 TO ALL i applogize for any actions that may have offended or cheated anyone
#2 TO MOST lighten up
#3 TO ADMIN if my actions have in some way damaged anyone or this fourm, for that i am sorry.

i have posted in many a place and seen first hand the bickering that goes on within some forums so far that has been a plus on this forum. in my opinion wteg was offended by the fact that the info that i gave conflicted his info so he got mad. i could be wrong this forum is to learn about our sport not bitch at each other. i was wrong for attacking wteg and i am sorry.

question: where did i go wrong? "JCRX" would you please be alittle more mature with your response this time. what was it that i did that pissed you people off by doing? again, no mater what your view of my actions is, i am only trying to help these people out. FYI i have never gained any business or sold any parts from my posts on this forum, my actions are ONLY to help the people that do not know any better.

jcrx
02-18-2004, 12:15 PM
question: where did i go wrong? "JCRX" would you please be alittle more mature with your response this time. what was it that i did that pissed you people off by doing? again, no mater what your view of my actions is, i am only trying to help these people out. FYI i have never gained any business or sold any parts from my posts on this forum, my actions are ONLY to help the people that do not know any better.
The other forums that I am a moderator on we don't even tell you that you screwed up, we delete your post, send you a warning, and if you do it again you're banned. The reason, as I have already said is that your business needs to pay to advertise, just like the other business that cut a check every month/bi monthly/yearly whatever. It is the equivolent of stealing when you advertise without paying, in your signature is one thing, but like in the post that is linked above, you blatanly were trying to get that individual to pay your products. You offered NO advice whatsoever. If the admins and mods want us to stop harassing you ever time we see you trying to promote your business without returning anything to the site, then so be it, but till then, everytime I see you selling your products without being a paying vendor you will catch the wrath. In this "hobby" word of mouth is everything, if think this isn't a valuable resource for selling your parts, you are sorely mistaken. I have sold tons of parts on the web, you just have to do it the right way.

TEAM KLR
02-18-2004, 06:55 PM
"hobby" for you is a business for me. again, like i said, i have never sold any products from my accused advertizing on any forum. i am trying to get to a place where everyone is content here. check out my post "forged pistons and rods" in the n20/turbo/superchargers section. tell me what you think.

whtteg
02-18-2004, 07:30 PM
You act like we are accusing you of doing something that you most definitely did do. How about that thread I linked in my last post? What kind of helpful information did you give? Did you try to sell him something? YES you did, come on man just admit it and lets move on. This post has already gone down the tubes and is now wasting more bandwidth that we are starting to run out of due to the higher traffic we have been seeing. This said you will not see another post from me in about this topic. I do have to say that the quality of your posts have greatly increased, and I have no doubt that you have a vast amount of information that you could share with people, but at the same time I feel that what you were doing was entirely wrong. And no I did not attack you as you say b/c you contradicted me. I felt that you were more motivated to make a sell rather than help this individual out. You can say it how ever many times you want that you have never sold anything to anyone from this forum, but I don’t buy it. Supposedly the guy in this thread was going to contact you and purchase the ignition system from you, so you have already contradicted yourself.And BTW when ever I say something negative about a product it is because I have had first hand experience with it and was dissatisfied with it. That was why I made the comment about the MSD wires. I have no problems with the MSD ignition kits, just the wires for the Hondas, that is all. But let’s not argue about that, we can only agree to disagree about that subject I suppose.

jcrx
02-18-2004, 11:30 PM
"hobby" for you is a business for me. again, like i said, i have never sold any products from my accused advertizing on any forum. i am trying to get to a place where everyone is content here. check out my post "forged pistons and rods" in the n20/turbo/superchargers section. tell me what you think.
You know what, you're pretty damn dense aren't you.

TEAM KLR
02-19-2004, 02:14 PM
hey whteg, thank you. i got defensive due to your first reply to me. again i applogize for my response. if may seem as contradiction and i see your point of view, no sales made yet, haha. I will try and respect those who are sensitive to such matters. hopefully from now on there will be no more problems.

JCRX, i have no use for you or your comments, just drop it so everyone can go on. again thank you for your constructive critisim.

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