thinking about a civic

i am thinking about buying a civic but before i go out and get one i want to get all the info i can , what i want is a civic coupe , don't care about power windows , locks and other stuff like that , don't really care if it as A/C or not , guess what i am asking is what is the sleeper model of the civic's , alot of people of told me to get a civic SI with a DOHC V-TEC , but what year? , would like to get a car with the most base HP/torque , i don't really want to do a engine swap just yet because i am new to import mods and i want to learn all i can about the different engines out there , not looking to turbo/supercharge one , just want to do basic stuff intake/exhuast and fuel/ignition. this will be the first honda that i have done anything to other the general shop work , all my expertise is in domestics. any help would be greatly appreciated.

Simple answer - '99 SI =)

Yep I would haff to agree with HXcivic97 on that one.

If you want horsepower....don't get a Civic.

The best horsepower for your money I think is to go with a teg... If I could go back I woulda chose an Integra over my Civic...

If you want horsepower....don't get a Civic.

The best horsepower for your money I think is to go with a teg... If I could go back I woulda chose an Integra over my Civic...

Let me rephrase that...the best horsepower from a Honda for pretty cheap is a teg...

dx coupe, dohc engine swap... YESSSS I know you say you don't want to do a swap right away, etc. but it would be worth it! and leave the outside stock with the DX badges on it and a quiet exhaust... lol

I agree. A civic was not meant to be fast, it was not meant to be a sports car. I think its more of an economy car. Your best bet would probably be a teggy.

dx coupe, dohc engine swap... YESSSS I know you say you don't want to do a swap right away, etc. but it would be worth it! and leave the outside stock with the DX badges on it and a quiet exhaust... lol
I was going to suggest this before I actually read his post and said he didn't want to swap. You can pick up a 5th gen (92-95) Civic DX for dirt cheap. I mean in the range of 1500-2500 here with the body and interior in good condition. Drop about another $2500-3000 on a swap and you have quite the competitor there. And at half the price of what you would spend on the Si. You said you could care less for all the creature comforts so this is the route that I would go.

which is exactly why i posted it... i bet a swapped 92-95 dx would take an si if done half way right

It wouldnt look pimp though...haaha

In that case get a 1990 Honda CRX for 600 dollars, swap a b18c5 for 4000 bucks and your a fast mother fucker!

IMO, 5th gen coupe/hatchback looks better than any of the 6th gens.

thanks for the info all , i have thought it over and i think i will go the civic dx route ,i am not going to do anything to the outside and i will most likely leave the stock rims on it , since i am looking for a sleeper i thinking going with a integra would kinda give it away , i have no problem doing the swap i just don't know what type of engine and manual trans i should be looking for to do the swap , i know where i can pick a dx for cheap with no engine/trans , so if i go with the dx what should a stick in it? really don't want to spend a ton of money on this but i want it to be worth my time , thanks again for any and all help

i honestly love the lines of my 5th gen coupe... no body kits either. STOCK body. all I want to do is drop it... then it will be good to roll

What do you want to do with the motor? NA? FI? When I was shopping for mine I was looking for 3 engines... the b16a, b18b, b18c. What I ended up with is the b18c. I would love to tell you what I think of it but it is not yet in the car. You can find motor swap info at the top of the '92+ Civic forum. Browse though that for a bit.

I agree. A civic was not meant to be fast, it was not meant to be a sports car. I think its more of an economy car. Your best bet would probably be a teggy.
and i bet when people see 96'ish eclipses they go "ooooh fast" when i pull on the ever "sporty" looking GS's with my bone stock accord, wheel hop and all. best thing to do as far as civics... get an EF or an EK, drop in a B series... bam cheap and quick

if you want a civic with decent power in a coupe and dont want to swap go 99-00 Si... id say hatchys are better though...

the car will be N/A , i might put a turbo/supercharger on it later but right i just want to be all motor

and i bet when people see 96'ish eclipses they go "ooooh fast" when i pull on the ever "sporty" looking GS's with my bone stock accord, wheel hop and all. best thing to do as far as civics... get an EF or an EK, drop in a B series... bam cheap and quick

if you want a civic with decent power in a coupe and dont want to swap go 99-00 Si... id say hatchys are better though...

GS and RS have same engine right. If so, they only put down 117 whp, nothing to be proud of. Race a GST or GSX.

Uh..Eclipse GS's suck ass....I've beat a 95 GS in my SOHC Civic Ex lol...he started catching me towards the end though...

ok , i am trying to get a parts list going and a plan of attack , when i go out looking for a motor and trans what car should i be looking for to get everything out of? from what i have read the b16 seems to be the best bang for your buck , thanks for any info you can give me

ok went back to the drawing board , after doing alot more research i have come up with the 2 different engines to go with , the b16 and then i found some info on a b18c5 , the b18 seems to have to most base hp/torque and CR , which is what i am looking for , any thought as to which would be the best to go with?

a b18c5 will be pretty expensive... and if you get that i wouldn't really even think of turbo or supercharging it... BUT, if you get that engine you will have a pretty quick little civic!

Type R motors are not worth the cost of swap IMO. For the difference in price, you could have a much faster B16. There is only about 35-40 hp difference between the two, and about $2000 difference. Another $1000 can have you boosted with all the right parts. I sourced parts for a B18C1 before getting my Sentra last November and parts came out to be around $2700, and then I figured another $500 for tuning and misc. items.

I wouldn't recomend an (6th gen)SI.
Most of the SI's I have seen for sale are around $14k.................. For 14k Id rather buy a F*cking 3rd Gen RX-7.

If you just want a cheap sporty little H get a 5th gen EX Coupe(~$4000), they are quite fun to drive. They are not that fast but that depends on your defenition of fast. For a roomy(In the front seats), good gas mileage getting, reliable, commuter, with a nice comfortable ride, it can hold its own. Also, if you decide to do a swap, the 5th gen is a good platform for an easy swap.

ok , one last thing , a buddy of mine might give me a 93 civic DX , engine has blown but the body is in great shape , what i want to know is what would be best to put back , B16A , B16B or B18C? this is what i plan on doing to the engine when i get one , it will not be turbo/supercharged or have NOS ,i will change out the intake and everything else to go with it , put a header on it and change the exhuast system , being that i am going to do all that what would be best to do with?

staying NA, go with the B18C

that is what i was thinking , thanks for all the help and info