convincing parents

my parents wont let me get an M1 or a bike. what are ways to convince them to let me? my dad had a bike when he was 16, but since im his lil daughter he wont let me. :frown: i dont plan on getting something wit alot of displacement, just something freeway legal and light. cuz im 5'4" 112lbs asian girl. i've been really responsible wit me car except for spending lots of money for mods, but its money that i worked for and saved. my driving record is also clean wit exceptions of school parking tickets. i've been telling my parents i should find a bike for purposes of finding parking at school.

Oooo good luck with that one. I dont know what to tell you, if your parents say no, and you live with them then theres really no way around it. I got lucky, I bought myne without them knowing and they came around. So I say just buy one behind their back then eventually they will come around. Id say for your size go with a ninja 250 maybe. Not saying that cuz your a girl but you are a little to small to start off on a 600. Yeah ninja 250 is one of your only options. Not too many bikes under 600.

You MIGHT be tall enough for a Ninja500 if you have experience riding.

I'm lucky b/c my dad wanted me on bikes, so even though I'm his lil girl (at 5'10" I'm still a 1/2 foot shorter than him!!!) I get to play with cars and bikes and get covered in road grime and axel grease. :)

Good luck. There's not much you can do until you move out.

you don't live with them anymore right? just get one without telling them :D
and let that motorcycle be a college bike, and never touch the ground of your house front porch.

If you have a steady parttime/full time job, or stable income, go finance one.

but don't tell your parents I told you that

My parents dont want me to get a bike either. Im movin out this summer though so Im just gunna get one then.

Its great that your driving record is that good and your responsible and all, and i KNOW you have heard it a million times but this makes a million and one....here we go......

ITS NOT YOU, ITS THE OTHER DRIVERS!


My parrents wouldnt let me get one because my Dad's best friend died on one when he was younger. When i turned 19 i went out and got a loan on my own a bought one and rode it home. The were up set, but i got it on my own and there was nothing they could do, they didnt want to kick me out in the cold so they just tollerated it.

Long story short, two and a half years later someone hit me with a car. I spent a month in the hospital and almost died...several times.

I am a great, skilled, responsible rider. But a fender bender in a car will KILL you on a motorcycle. A small accident in car might ruin your friday night, but that same accident involving a motorcycle will kill you and devastate your family.

If you are hell bent on riding and you TRUELY understand the pros, the cons and the chances you take every time you get behind the tank no matter WHAT size of bike you ride, then you have to make a choice.

You can talk it out with them two on one, present your arguments on how motorcycles cost less for a college student. Payments and insurance are cheeper and they are slimer for easier parking, how parking stickers are cheeper and they use less gas.

You can wait till you get a place on your own and are independant. Then you can say you are an adult and make your own choices in life.

You can get one behind their back. This is your worst choice because when the paramedics call your parrents and tell them their lil daughter in in the E.R. on life support do you want to look them in the eye and tell them you got a small displacement freeway legal motorcycle?

I'm not trying to lecture you, i'm just giving you the worst case senario, because with motorcycles the worst case senario plays out TOO often! When i was laid up in the hospital some one else was hit. This man was not even hit as hard as i was, they lost him in the E.R. when his lung colapsed. He was giving a more likely chance of survival than i was, but tragicially we lost another brother.

What did that accident do to you man? I'm interested in maybe getting a 500r. My dad rode bikes for years and had a few crashes with cars and a big truck once. I'm going to college in the fall and the milage, performance, and costs seem pretty good.

Accidents on bikes aren't fun. I know I will "go down" one day, and I'm NOT looking forward to it.

My boyfriend was t-boned by a Jeep. He wasn't doing anything wrong, but the Jeep crossed 2 lanes of traffic and nailed him. He was in physical therapy for months. He is lucky. There was a cop who watched the whole thing, and he was able to settle out of court to include his medical bills and PT and pain and suffering. Unfortunately, it doesn't often happen that way... :redface:

[QUOTE=flex339]What did that accident do to you man?QUOTE]


A car Illegally crossed my lane trying to turn left and I T-boned at 40 mph. In case you want to know what hitting a soild object at 40 miles an hour feels like you can jump off a four story building and belly flop onto solid concrete. physically they are the same effect.

As far as my injuries i receive fractures on my spine in the 2 thru 5 vertebrete, 9 feet of crushed small intestine which had to be removed, lacerated liver, a sever fracture to my left ankel which now has 6 screws and a metal plate, a total body infection due to the crushed intestine dying, a blood clot in my leg which now has a filter, severe road rash, and some more things i am sure i forgot.

It looks fun and cool. But most people dont think of how easially a sunday ride could change your life. Every time you start a bike you risk your life.

wow...um..yeah I'm sorry to hear about that xv7vx. I'm going to check out some bikes in the next couples days probably to get a feel for them. My dad dosen't mind me getting a bike, but he likes the traditional bikes and not bikes like the ninja 500r I want to check out. By the way I like your quote from Romans 12:19.

I am a female who is 5'3 and i have a 2002 ninja 500r. But even with having the suspension softened to be dropped a inch and a half i am still on my tippy toes. So if the day ever does come that your parnets say it is ok i would suggest to go for the 250 to learn on at first and to get experienced. I have had a bike since i was 19 my mom, stepfather and sister all have bikes.. So i kinda did not have to convince my parnets my mom actually bought my bike for my 22end birthday.. just do yourself a favor.. be extra careful.. I have never went down down.. I have dropped my bike due to me being to short and not used to it.. and that hurts i can just imagine what it would be like to go down hard... I do have a friend who was riding in the city and a women hit him doing 30 and he can no longer use his right arm and he was in the hospital for months.. granted now he is having all his controls moved to the left side. of his bike so he can still ride.. Just be very careful for all the other cars on the road.. and i know in new york state.. if a car hits a motorcycle auto insurance does not cover it and the driver does not even get ticketed and you have to take it to court to get everything paid for..

Accidents on bikes aren't fun. I know I will "go down" one day, and I'm NOT looking forward to it.

Thats not positive thinking. Thinking that you will go down for sure is not good. If it happens it happens. But dont go out riding with the intent of going down. I dunno just trying to shine a little light on that.

Thats not positive thinking. Thinking that you will go down for sure is not good. If it happens it happens. But dont go out riding with the intent of going down. I dunno just trying to shine a little light on that.


Saturntangerine and i have discussed this before. I know she has no intent of going down. No one in their right mind wants to go down. The idealogy behind admiting you will go down is knowing the risks, admiting the risks, and still acepting the risks, thus making you a smarter, more informed rider.

We loose thousands of fellow riders a year, statistically the death rate of motorcyclists goes up every single year. If you plan on riding a motorcycle for life then STATISTICALLY you WILL go down...eventaully. Maybe it wont be your fault, but you mathmatically will go down at least once. The idea behind admiting you will go down is forcing your self to look at riding from the darker, sader, tragic side. Admiting that you have VERY little control over your environment, acepting the risks involved and STILL choosing to ride makes you a better rider.

Positive thinking has little to do with it, it more like smart thinking. For instance think of the same idea in a different scenario. Imagine you wanted to attend a certin school. But every year 35% of people who attend that school drop out. If you still choose to attend that school, knowing the risk makes you a smarter more informed student. You have assesed the risk and decided that the choice is still right for you. So know the school is harder, you study better. This is the same idea.

I definately dont agree with that AT ALL. But whatever, cant change peoples opinions.

I know quite a bit about positive thinking. Although this has nothing to do with motorcycles, I skate and I doubt many of you have skated as long as I have without one major injury. As long as ive been skating ive always thought positive that im NOT gonna fall on this rail or im NOT gonna land on my sack, and what do you know, I DONT. I skate with a lot of people that sit there and contemplate doing a rail in fear of eatting shit and once they decide FUCK IT ILL DO IT, they fall hard as hell. The difference between me and them is I go up to it look at it and do it. I dont sit there and contemplate if I should do it in fear of beefing it. So far this has worked for 8 years and I have had NO major injuries so like I said, I could be lucky or it may have a lot to do with my thoughts and mind power. So again this isnt motorcycles but it has a lot to do with it as far as mind power.

So my point being made again is, dont think about falling, if it happens, it happens. But with the thoughts I have I highly doubt I will be going down anytime soon. Also if your getting hit by cars so often then theres also a problem with yourself. You cant always blame it on other cars. I admit sometimes theres nothing you can do but I see a lot of riders get themselves into situations that there is no need to even be in.

Also if your getting hit by cars so often then theres also a problem with yourself. You cant always blame it on other cars. I admit sometimes theres nothing you can do but I see a lot of riders get themselves into situations that there is no need to even be in.

I have nothing postive to say to this. I also refuse to start a flame war. Feel free to believe what you will.

Just be careful on whom you place the blame when it involves peoples lifes and you wernt there or dont know them, or their riding ability.

Who said anything about a flame war? The last thing I was trying to start was a flame war. There was no need to even bring that up. Its called opinions. I have my own opinion as do you, im not trying to change it in any way. And why would you say im trying to place blame on somebody? I was using examples such as "if you crash often then there must be a problem with your riding" and when I say that im not directing that towards anyone, just using examples. I just see a lot of people that crash and when I hear the stories a lot of times it COULD have been prevented. And like I added, SOMETIMES YOU CANT DO ANYTHING. This thread has nothing to do with the topic we are on so I dont know how you thought I was placing blame on anyone but whatever.

There are those who have been down, and those that will go down.

I figure skate, so I know about positive thinking, but figure skating is an enclosed environment... as is skateboarding (often times). Riding is NOT, so thinking has less of a reward. JMO

There are those who have been down, and those that will go down.

I figure skate, so I know about positive thinking, but figure skating is an enclosed environment... as is skateboarding (often times). Riding is NOT, so thinking has less of a reward. JMO


See i do no agree with statement to me it seems that you have never been on a motorcycle before and had someone stop short in front of you or pull out in front of you.. Thinking has a great deal to do with riding a motorcycle. Considering the amount of thinking you have to do in just driving one.. cause you use both hands and both feet and your whole body to drive this thing.. on top of having to be aware of all the other a$$es on the road in there big shiny cars.. Thinking has alot to do with it.. Ever have you riding glove get caught on your throttel and the car in front of you in at a dead stop.. ?? that takes alot of quick thinking... Figure skating is no comparison to riding a motorcycle.. At least in my opion.. yeah granted you can fall down break a few bones and very far and few between die from figure skating.. compared to the amount of people who die or get serverly hurt riding bikes.. You have to think, be on your toes at all times and be aware of other idots on the road.. So i am sure thinking has alot more of a award then not!!!!

I think you missed my point.

I didn't mean rationalizing... that's the thinking you're talking about... I'm talking about "think positive thoughts" thinking. I've nearly been hit. I've nearly bit the dust. I've got 2 years on street, and more years in the back yard. I put several thousand miles on a bike every season. But when you're facing a car that's running up your ass... You aren't thinking "okay, so if I just think happy thoughts I'll be alright"... you're planning a way out. That's rationalizing. Different animal.

Perhaps i took you statement wrong EGcivicSi. I respect you opinion, but i thought you were insulting my riding ability. Sometimes its hard to tell the context behind writing text online. If i mistook you then i apoligize.

If I had a daughter I wouldn't let her get one. Girls just don't need to be on bikes.. They don't know how to drive cars in the first place. Listen to your parents, they don't let you do things because they want to be mean (usually anyway). But I think maybe instead of rebelling, maybe you should try a different approach. How about finding some bike lessons and then telling your parents about them. Go through a course and see how it goes and if you do good that will definitly help their fears.
Just listen to the pain some of the riders have gone through on this forum because of other drivers hitting them. Do you seriously need that? In all accounts you would die if you had an accident on a bike, imagine your parents grief and anger then. Just think about it from their point of view for a moment.

punisher3r, So you think girls do not know how to drive cars and girl do not need to ride bikes huh??? interesting.. Well for me being a female and i drive a car and ride a bike.. and umm lets see the one and only accident i have had i was re ended by a MALE who was looking at a girl on the side of the road.. and was no pay attention.. but i guess that makes them better drivers... well there is a down fall for all men and that is that they have way to much testostrone running though there little bodies and they think nothing can ever hurt them and they are the best at whatever they do.. I will agree though that some girls do not know how to drive.. cause they are caught up on checking there make-up and on the cell phone.. but then again some guys do the same.. I would hope for the next time you make a statement like that.. that you would think before you spoke cause there are alot of good female drives and good female riders.. Funny to me that i ride with a bunch of guys and i ride better then most of them.. and i have been told many of times that i ride better them most.. and as for drive a car.. I am just not going to touch that subject because i can just about out drive any male on the road.. and be safe about it.. I Just think that you need to think before you make a general statement about women that way..

Women still don't know how to drive. Could careless what your view on it is or how you drive. The majority of women can't drive.

well i am happy to see that there are still some arrogant men out there that still feel that they are better then women and that women can never be equals to them.. well your day will come when a female out does you in everything that you feel you are great at.. I just hope that you do not have this same attitude towards the women in your like (mother, sister,girlfriend,wife,daughter)... Good luck with life with the swollen ass head you have..

Wow, congratulations, |PuNiSh3R|, You have the mindset straight from the 1940's. There's something of which to be proud.

Next time you want to make stupid comments like that, Just remember "anything you can do, I can do better, I can do anything better than you". Oh, and I'll get every female motor enthusiast on this site, and I think your horn will be playing a different tune.

Xv7vX... No, I definately wasnt talking about you, or anyone for that matter.

Women still don't know how to drive. Could careless what your view on it is or how you drive. The majority of women can't drive.

:lol: Damn truth.

Hahaha.. I never said women aren't my equal or that they can't be my equal OR that they can't be better than me at something.. So would ya step back from the ledge now? I said women can't drive, I never said they couldn't be smarter than me or paid more than me or hold a higher corporate position than me. The day a woman can do anything better than me is when I'll be probably 80 years old and I need some young big tittied nurse to give me sponge bathes.

Yeah I'm not to sure about that statement punisher, but I bet if that nurse heard you say something like your saying now you could be looking foward to an enema or two. Stereotypes were created by ignorant people and only they seem to use them. Besides we are just a little off topic anyways.

Yeah, this has been taken sooooo far off course now...

At any rate... if you live at home, you still live by your parents' rules whether you like it or not. When you have the ability to move out, pay your bills, and still can afford a bike, then go right ahead and have a blast. Just make sure you take the danged safety course.