Turbo last?

I was thinking i would upgrade to a new turbo and intercooler last.

Get the exhuast n intake manifolds, injectors, fuel pump, n all that stuff n then nitrous. Last do the turbo. I wanna do this becuase i want the money for nitrous. Purging is so nice! :smokin:

I worked with my cousin on his supra adding nitrous. Kinda wanna show all the ricers i know around here wut a fast car really is...(nitrous in mind)

Would this be a good idea?

if i were u... i would do the turbo first intersooler second and the last thing would be NOS...but that is just me... if u wanna show off infront of frens i think a good BOV sound is enough pppppssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh :D or add a pimping jl w7 if u intend to setup a streo system later :) u can also follow this link to see the steps to increase the power without harming the engine ..

http://www.dsmtuner.com/tuning-guide/2gturbo/

by the way u dint tell us ur goal??? 300hp 350hp or 400???? or just wanna show off ur car???

i was thinking about nitrous last too at first, till i found out how much fun it was....thats why im askin bout this

I dont wanna vent the bov, currently, im not.

Im goin for 400!

ya i know it is fun... but i was thinking it might be too much for the engine to take it without proper intercooler and bigger turbo... dont u think... i may be wrong :D but for 400hp... 95gsxracer will reply u tonite

i also think u will have more than 400 hp if u follow the steps..caz kevin has 397 without a nitrous but then its ur car :D

nitrous is dangerous unless you know what your doin... like how to tune your car for it, i.e. timing, the fuel system, when to spray... some other little stuff that can fuck up your engine in the long run, i would suggest getting a MBC, Exhaust, then upgrade to hard IC pipes, fuel upgrade, FMIC, then upgrade turbo, and if that still isnt enough power, a 50-75 ZEX wet kit!

Running nitrous along with turbo is risky business if you dont fully understand how all this works. Especially on a turbo that likes to blow hot air and cuase knock at nearly stock boost levels. The only time I think nitrous makes sense on a DSM is when you are running the largest turbo you can still spool, and you still want more power. MAgnus ran 10.06 with not nitrous, then a 9.6 with it. I'm not too impressed with nitrous in that example ;) 400 whp isnt hard to do with just a turbo. You just have to know what you are doing. If you dont know what you are doing, nitrous isnt going to help you anyway ;) Your call though.

thats what i told him before in simple sentence withont any scientific explantion :D dammm i GOOD :)

your 'simple sentence' was incoherent, and also "having nitrous for purging" is backwards thinking.

whats incoherent ??? is that good or bad :D

^^^^^^ lol

nitrous is dangerous unless you know what your doin... like how to tune your car for it, i.e. timing, the fuel system, when to spray... some other little stuff that can fuck up your engine in the long run, i would suggest getting a MBC, Exhaust, then upgrade to hard IC pipes, fuel upgrade, FMIC, then upgrade turbo, and if that still isnt enough power, a 50-75 ZEX wet kit!

This had nothing ta do with the question, bringing everyone sorta off. I know a good deal about nitrous n how it works.

To be more specific, yes iam planning to have about 400 w/ no nitrous. I was just hoping ta get nitrous sooner (for a little show, not just the go). Basically i was thinking just wut 95eclipse-gsx said the first time, that there would be to much power for the intercooler n turbo (thanx for tellin me wut i was thinking, lol).

95 GSXracer do you know?

i do know that "wut" and "ta" are ont english words. :D But unfortunately, while I do know a god deal about how nitrous works, I have never run it personally or on a car I have worked on. So I will refrain from commenting. I will just stress again that DSMs can go very fast without it, and turbo systems are complex enough on thier own :) Wish I could help more.

I was thinking i would upgrade to a new turbo and intercooler last.

Get the exhuast n intake manifolds, injectors, fuel pump, n all that stuff n then nitrous. Last do the turbo. I wanna do this becuase i want the money for nitrous. Purging is so nice! :smokin:

I worked with my cousin on his supra adding nitrous. Kinda wanna show all the ricers i know around here wut a fast car really is...(nitrous in mind)

Would this be a good idea?

nitrous is dangerous unless you know what your doin... like how to tune your car for it, i.e. timing, the fuel system, when to spray... some other little stuff that can fuck up your engine in the long run, i would suggest getting a MBC, Exhaust, then upgrade to hard IC pipes, fuel upgrade, FMIC, then upgrade turbo, and if that still isnt enough power, a 50-75 ZEX wet kit!


This had nothing ta do with the question, bringing everyone sorta off. I know a good deal about nitrous n how it works.

To be more specific, yes iam planning to have about 400 w/ no nitrous. I was just hoping ta get nitrous sooner (for a little show, not just the go). Basically i was thinking just wut 95eclipse-gsx said the first time, that there would be to much power for the intercooler n turbo (thanx for tellin me wut i was thinking, lol).

95 GSXracer do you know?

how did it not have anything to do with the question? you asked if that was a good idea, and i replyed by saying get the nitrous last since its dangerous if you dont know what you are doin to run it with a turbo!!! just like Kevin said, if your goin to use nitrous with a turbo, use it just to spool it up like i do, or you have a really good chance a recking something! i have a 20g on an RS thats the only reason i use nitrous! and since you say you know a good deal about nitrous, tell me how you would run it... i'm saying this cause if YOU (not your cousin!) have never put nitrous on a turbo car and tuned it before i suggest you do that last! and have many people inspect it! i took my car to 3 shops just to make sure everything was correct before i even tried it to see if it works, cause i was too afraid to screw something up...

how did it not have anything to do with the question? you asked if that was a good idea, and i replyed by saying get the nitrous last since its dangerous if you dont know what you are doin to run it with a turbo!!! just like Kevin said, if your goin to use nitrous with a turbo, use it just to spool it up like i do, or you have a really good chance a recking something! i have a 20g on an RS thats the only reason i use nitrous! and since you say you know a good deal about nitrous, tell me how you would run it... i'm saying this cause if YOU (not your cousin!) have never put nitrous on a turbo car and tuned it before i suggest you do that last! and have many people inspect it! i took my car to 3 shops just to make sure everything was correct before i even tried it to see if it works, cause i was too afraid to screw something up...


Thats great, but i already told you....ME and MY COUSIN both worked on the car....read it again...god damn

Lol, dont get so mad...


nitrous is dangerous unless you know what your doin...


Sayin nitrous is dangerous has nothing ta do with whether i should get it after or before turbo. I stated that ive worked with nitrous b 4.


like how to tune your car for it, i.e. timing, the fuel system, when to spray...


OK?


some other little stuff that can fuck up your engine in the long run, i would suggest getting a MBC, Exhaust, then upgrade to hard IC pipes, fuel upgrade, FMIC,


uh-huh...


then upgrade turbo, and if that still isnt enough power, a 50-75 ZEX wet kit!


well, thanx...:smile:

i do know that "wut" and "ta" are ont english words. :D But unfortunately, while I do know a god deal about how nitrous works, I have never run it personally or on a car I have worked on. So I will refrain from commenting. I will just stress again that DSMs can go very fast without it, and turbo systems are complex enough on thier own :) Wish I could help more.

Thanx for DA info, LOL :smokin:

I would just like to add that while i dont know much about all this, i have read that nitrous is the best bang for the buck in terms of hp vs. $. And w/ the stoutness of the 4g63 it seems like it could take a beating and keep on going. And isnt nitrous just adding basically colder/denser air in the chamber? wouldnt that help the hot turbo air thing? Im still learning so feel free to disregard everything thats nonsense. :)

i'm not getting mad! but since you know so much about nitrous and cars...tell me how you would set it up!!! cause i dont believe you!! thats why i said no thats not a good idea to put the nitrous on before a bigger turbo!! your stock turbo will never handle it! THATS WHY I SAID PUT THE NITROUS ON LAST!!! :screwy:

cause i dont believe you!!

LMAO!! you never believe anybody!!! [just ribbin ya.. ;)]

my thoughts on this:

assuming [and we all know what that means] that you do have a clue pertaining to tuning with nitrous and turbo systems, i only have one thought that comes to mind. !!!!!!$$$$$$$$$!!!!!! once you get a system in you are going to spend lots of $$$$ filling your tank [and we all know that most of the gas is going straight to your head]. then you are going to blow up your engine [$$$$$] because that is what happens when you get all high sucking gas [$$$$$] and then go racing around. either that or you are going to crash [$$$$$] [gotta stop sucking gas [$$$$$]]. then you are not going to have a car to tune at all or you are going to have to get a new engine. then we are all going to see this thread "HELP!!!! I crashed my car cuz i was high sucking on NOS - so can you all give me advice on how to fix it???"

so save us all a headache and put your efforts to try and cook rice on your purge valve to rest and put on some real mods that will sustain power all the time, cuz we all know the gas will never make it into the cylinders anyway. IMHO

I would just like to add that while i dont know much about all this, i have read that nitrous is the best bang for the buck in terms of hp vs. $. And w/ the stoutness of the 4g63 it seems like it could take a beating and keep on going. And isnt nitrous just adding basically colder/denser air in the chamber? wouldnt that help the hot turbo air thing? Im still learning so feel free to disregard everything thats nonsense. :)


Best bang for the buck for NT cars. For turbo DSMs I dissagree. I went from 15.0 to 12.8 with 1800 in mods. You're going to need a 200 "shot" of nitrous to match that. It can only do so much... You have a turbo, use it. :)