NOS on RS? rofl
CrimsonRacer
02-01-2004, 07:20 PM
This guy that I work with is always talking about racing my 3000GT SL and im like man I would destroy you in your little RS with the fart cannon. So he comes into work yesterday and hes like im buying NOS and im going to kill you. I would imagine with that shitty ass engine hes going to blow himself to pieces or destroy the car. I know a GS-T or GS-X could handle it but an RS...gimmie a break. If he does it im probably going to fuck up my launch laughing so hard. :disappoin
Chavez408
02-01-2004, 09:41 PM
uh...yeah...
EclipseRST
02-01-2004, 09:43 PM
ok buddy... lets race, i have 100 shot on my RS and its running just fine :loser:
JoeWagon
02-01-2004, 09:50 PM
SL vs RS.. sounds like the must-see hit of the summer,
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-01-2004, 11:01 PM
You are talking shit about a lower model Eclipse when you are a lower model 3000GT. Im betting on the Eclipse! YOUR CAR IS NOT FAST!
My friends Ford Contour not SVT killed a 3000GT...Now thats something to laugh about!
My friends Ford Contour not SVT killed a 3000GT...Now thats something to laugh about!
FourG63 97GST
02-01-2004, 11:25 PM
haha
CrimsonRacer
02-02-2004, 12:57 AM
*sigh*
I love 2nd gen eclipses, but I like the GST, GSX and turbo'd models, the rs and gs models, unless turboed are slow as shit. I used to beat them in my jeep cherokee. I just found it funny that someone would put NOS on a 130 HP car with no real mods except that just to beat me. I know im not very fast but im not strapping on NOS either.
I love 2nd gen eclipses, but I like the GST, GSX and turbo'd models, the rs and gs models, unless turboed are slow as shit. I used to beat them in my jeep cherokee. I just found it funny that someone would put NOS on a 130 HP car with no real mods except that just to beat me. I know im not very fast but im not strapping on NOS either.
FourG63 97GST
02-02-2004, 01:11 AM
its nitrous
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-02-2004, 09:27 AM
Just to clear somethings up its 140hp well why dont you race him and find out.
Import2nr99
02-02-2004, 10:08 AM
:disappoin Too much fast & furious syndrome going on here. NOS is a company, Nitrous oxide systems. And yes, a stock RS may not be anything amazing. But should, for whatever reason, he "strap on NOS" he will give you a run for your money. Go ahead and race... we'll see how hard you laugh when you lose to him :naughty: .... and his NOS :lol2:
EclipseRST
02-02-2004, 10:51 AM
ok how about this... i will kick your ass without the nitrous!!! wanna put some money on it, i will bet you my car that i will beat you by atleast 3 car lengths! huh... what do ya say? :naughty:
skyllz
02-02-2004, 10:51 AM
A stock RS is 140 not 130 and the HP does not ALL matter because your 3000GT weighs more. Torque is important too.
I remember when my RS was completely stock. Its automatic, and yet I still smoked a lot of cars (mx-6, civic si, precidia, focus) it all depends on the driver.
If its installed correctly he'll whip your car not to mention nitrous its almost instant. The 420a engine can handle nitrous easily.
I remember when my RS was completely stock. Its automatic, and yet I still smoked a lot of cars (mx-6, civic si, precidia, focus) it all depends on the driver.
If its installed correctly he'll whip your car not to mention nitrous its almost instant. The 420a engine can handle nitrous easily.
AcesHigh
02-02-2004, 01:46 PM
Children, children...
I love the Eclipse, but RS and GS simply don't cut it racing. The SL, while heavy, still has a 3.0L DOHC power plant pumping out a healthy 222hp with massive torque to boot. If I remember right, a stock GS has about a 10 second 0-60? The SL will win, unless the RS driver unloads the spray.
Speaking of which, nitrous oxide is too long to type out, and NOS is now a good abbreviation of it, regardless of its corporate implications. Like kleenex.
I love the Eclipse, but RS and GS simply don't cut it racing. The SL, while heavy, still has a 3.0L DOHC power plant pumping out a healthy 222hp with massive torque to boot. If I remember right, a stock GS has about a 10 second 0-60? The SL will win, unless the RS driver unloads the spray.
Speaking of which, nitrous oxide is too long to type out, and NOS is now a good abbreviation of it, regardless of its corporate implications. Like kleenex.
ashah000
02-02-2004, 01:59 PM
Speaking of which, nitrous oxide is too long to type out, and NOS is now a good abbreviation of it, regardless of its corporate implications. Like kleenex.
Use N2O... i dunno just a suggestion.
Use N2O... i dunno just a suggestion.
EclipseRST
02-02-2004, 02:03 PM
Children, children...
I love the Eclipse, but RS and GS simply don't cut it racing. The SL, while heavy, still has a 3.0L DOHC power plant pumping out a healthy 222hp with massive torque to boot.
I aint scared!!! bring it on! 222hp aint nothing for me :smokin:
I love the Eclipse, but RS and GS simply don't cut it racing. The SL, while heavy, still has a 3.0L DOHC power plant pumping out a healthy 222hp with massive torque to boot.
I aint scared!!! bring it on! 222hp aint nothing for me :smokin:
mitsu_eclipse95gst
02-02-2004, 03:07 PM
Really my "GS" has beat many GS-T's Along with 3000GT's. They are not that slow
space-monkey
02-09-2004, 10:49 PM
OMFG, i drive a RS with Dry ntirous (compucar) bad choice by the way, i went into that blind. but not only does my little car take 300gts, but how i drive and how my car is set up i hang with slightly modified mustang gts, and who ever said thier automatic GS smoked a civic SI, well they cant drive cause i own a SI also and it east my eclipse when not running my Nitrous. ANd also im selling my system because i just bought a twin bottle zex kit, and selling my compucar kitfor 350$ full kit /w nozzles. msg me on AOl or MSn
AcesHigh
02-09-2004, 11:17 PM
GS/RS < Civic SI
JoeWagon
02-09-2004, 11:42 PM
I would rather have SI any day than an RS, but I don't care which one is faster stock. They are both inferior to turbo setups
87Porsche951
02-22-2004, 12:51 AM
actually a 2nd gen RS can handle up to 270hp @crank with stock internals with no problems. of course the amoun tof wear on the car and engine condition would make it vary....
EclipseRST
02-22-2004, 02:55 AM
270hp is a little much but you can think whatever you want to... when i dynoed my car i was sitting at 225hp with 10psi, now when i blew it i was running 15psi, so there is no way i will make 50hp in 5psi...
87Porsche951
02-22-2004, 04:50 AM
well my mother recently got a 97 Eclipse RS and she wanted to mod it but through research found there isnt much you can do with a none turbo eclipse to make good power except get a very expensive turbo kit. i called Hahns Racecraft @ (630) 801-1417 and asked them some questions about reliability and how much boost to run and how much the motor could handle without unreliability issues and they told me up to 270hp @ crank with stock internals. They could be wrong but seeing as they do this for a living there probably a little right. Personally i dont see why it couldnt handle 270hp @ crank. The only thing about the eclipse engine that worries me and it was the same thing that worried me about my 951 too, was the balance shaft. When i drove her car her belts started squiling like pigs within a few hours of her owning it and found out the balance shaft belt tensioner is not up to par and the belt has noticable wear. Which you probably know if the balance shaft belt hoes out can easily tangle with the timing belt and create a failure which would be bad.
goalieman24
02-22-2004, 08:45 PM
your mom is getting a turbo kit for her car???
87Porsche951
02-23-2004, 08:07 PM
My mother doesnt care either way but she wants to do shit to it and i told her not to rice it out and get real performance mods. Im gonna try to build my own kit, the kits i seen are way overpriced.
87Porsche951
02-23-2004, 08:10 PM
Plus she wants to be able to take my 951. i already raced he on the highway and smoked the shit out of her. she cant drive my 951 to see what it feels like to drive cause she cant drive a stick.
EclipseRST
02-23-2004, 08:20 PM
can you beat stock GSTs and GSXs with your 951? sorry i have never driven one or raced one so i wouldnt know... but if you piece together a kit for her you can get a nice one together for around $2000 and she will be able to boost up to 10psi (NO MORE) or bye bye motor... now with that you should be a little quicker than a stock GST if tuned right, atleast thats how i was, maybe it was just the drivers but i dont know... i'm not professional or anything but i feel i can drive my car pretty damn good! now if you build the motor thats a different story, now your talkin $$$! :iceslolan but its all worth it IMO! good luck too you and her!
87Porsche951
02-23-2004, 09:10 PM
I never raced a GST or GSX before but im pretty sure i could take them w/ 951. GST & GSX would be a fair race considering that my car is a turbocharged 8V SOHC 2.5L Inline 4. I dont know at what RPM those cars make peak hp & TQ. 951's arent very good drag cars. stock the 951 is rated at: 217 bhp @ 5800 rpm & 244 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm
0-60 in 5.9 sec & 1/4 in 14.3 sec.
It doesnt look to impressive for todays figures but back in the 80's when it was in production it was very good figures. It was quicker in acceliration & top speed than the Corvette & Ferrari. Also was best handling production car in the USA. 951's are great cars and repond very well to mods pretty much any turbo car responds well to mods. for $250 you can get a chips set for 951 (DME/KLR) and you got 50+hp & 50lbs tq gain (@crank). Just a chip set makes a difference in these cars because Porsche designed the cars to roll on and off boost smoothly and factory boost setting is 10.9psi. Chip allows the turbo to make boost as soon as it can and most set the boost from 10.9psi to 15psi max.
On 951's you dont want to launch it very often cause you chance breaking a CV which i dont mind because id rather break a CV than a transmission. I usually do either 30MPH-60MPH rolls or highway runs.
0-60 in 5.9 sec & 1/4 in 14.3 sec.
It doesnt look to impressive for todays figures but back in the 80's when it was in production it was very good figures. It was quicker in acceliration & top speed than the Corvette & Ferrari. Also was best handling production car in the USA. 951's are great cars and repond very well to mods pretty much any turbo car responds well to mods. for $250 you can get a chips set for 951 (DME/KLR) and you got 50+hp & 50lbs tq gain (@crank). Just a chip set makes a difference in these cars because Porsche designed the cars to roll on and off boost smoothly and factory boost setting is 10.9psi. Chip allows the turbo to make boost as soon as it can and most set the boost from 10.9psi to 15psi max.
On 951's you dont want to launch it very often cause you chance breaking a CV which i dont mind because id rather break a CV than a transmission. I usually do either 30MPH-60MPH rolls or highway runs.
JoeWagon
02-24-2004, 12:30 AM
217bhp was more than an 80's corvette?
87Porsche951
02-24-2004, 05:21 AM
Vette & Ferrari had more than 217bhp but 951 was still faster. 951 had less power than alot of cars but still was able to outperform them.
GTO4Life
02-24-2004, 03:28 PM
whoa... you ppl are underestimating the SL... also... its a driver's race when a few of you say that you've beaten SL's with an RS, or GS (STOCK)... and to whoever said that the SL is the lowest model of the 3000GT, your wrong bub... The SL is the Middle one out of the 3 models, Base, SL, and VR4. Do some research before you speak please.
IMO, Nitrous is stupid. Any car with it can win a race. Tell that guy to trully mod his car instead of dreaming about fast and the furious so much please.
IMO, Nitrous is stupid. Any car with it can win a race. Tell that guy to trully mod his car instead of dreaming about fast and the furious so much please.
slimmcb
02-24-2004, 04:14 PM
Really my "GS" has beat many GS-T's Along with 3000GT's. They are not that slow
Just curious as to how you beat a car that has 210hp (gs-t) or 222hp (3000gt sl) with a car that has 140 hp what years are you talking about by the way
Just curious as to how you beat a car that has 210hp (gs-t) or 222hp (3000gt sl) with a car that has 140 hp what years are you talking about by the way
youngvr4
02-24-2004, 05:29 PM
whoa... you ppl are underestimating the SL... also... its a driver's race when a few of you say that you've beaten SL's with an RS, or GS (STOCK)... and to whoever said that the SL is the lowest model of the 3000GT, your wrong bub... The SL is the Middle one out of the 3 models, Base, SL, and VR4. Do some research before you speak please.
IMO, Nitrous is stupid. Any car with it can win a race. Tell that guy to trully mod his car instead of dreaming about fast and the furious so much please.
first of all a gs or an rs eclipse is slow as hell, i was dang near neck and neck with one in my moms contour sport v6 24 valve. he beat me by aobut 1 foot we raced 3 times i won 1. second just cause womone has nos doesn't mean they can beat any car, i beat an integra with nitrous before, nitrous will only take off about 1 sec off your 1/4 no more than 2 so if you run the 1/4 in 16.7 you'll probly drop to about 15.3 still not as fast as a stock gsx.
IMO, Nitrous is stupid. Any car with it can win a race. Tell that guy to trully mod his car instead of dreaming about fast and the furious so much please.
first of all a gs or an rs eclipse is slow as hell, i was dang near neck and neck with one in my moms contour sport v6 24 valve. he beat me by aobut 1 foot we raced 3 times i won 1. second just cause womone has nos doesn't mean they can beat any car, i beat an integra with nitrous before, nitrous will only take off about 1 sec off your 1/4 no more than 2 so if you run the 1/4 in 16.7 you'll probly drop to about 15.3 still not as fast as a stock gsx.
ROB3000GTVR4
02-24-2004, 06:44 PM
ok buddy... lets race, i have 100 shot on my RS and its running just fine :loser:
I'll race you,and i have no nitrous :iceslolan
I'll race you,and i have no nitrous :iceslolan
JoeWagon
02-24-2004, 07:37 PM
you don't have an SL
and my friend would beat you in his z06, what's everyone's goal when they make these statements. It was SL vs. RS, yes, there ARE faster cars.
and my friend would beat you in his z06, what's everyone's goal when they make these statements. It was SL vs. RS, yes, there ARE faster cars.
ROB3000GTVR4
02-24-2004, 08:02 PM
you don't have an SL
and my friend would beat you in his z06, what's everyone's goal when they make these statements. It was SL vs. RS, yes, there ARE faster cars.
As far as there being faster cars that true,but if you cant drive it does'nt matter how fast you'er car is.Oh and i'll try you'er friend in the z06 IM NOT STOCK. :biggrin:
and my friend would beat you in his z06, what's everyone's goal when they make these statements. It was SL vs. RS, yes, there ARE faster cars.
As far as there being faster cars that true,but if you cant drive it does'nt matter how fast you'er car is.Oh and i'll try you'er friend in the z06 IM NOT STOCK. :biggrin:
Chavez408
02-24-2004, 08:35 PM
now..now..now.. are you children going to talk nicely or do i need to ban you all..? :D
and..CrimsonRacer, you never told us who "won" the "race" was it you (3000GT) or the (RS)...with "NOS"..?
:)
and..CrimsonRacer, you never told us who "won" the "race" was it you (3000GT) or the (RS)...with "NOS"..?
:)
Nesryn
02-24-2004, 09:42 PM
Lol... sad. I'm sorry, but an SL will run circles around an RS... And to those of you who think nitrous is god... you're wrong. It will shave about a second off your 1/4 time. A stock GS run's mid 16's in the 1/4.... an SL runs 15. And 16.5-1=15.5... so therefore, the SL still comes out on top. Sorry =)
95eclipse-gsx
02-24-2004, 11:41 PM
Loosers talk Winners Race :disappoin ... I have said this before and i am saying it again... Eclipse should be the younger bro of 3000gt (cylinder and hp wise) :) why do we dumb fucks have to fight over something stupid insted the whole thing will be much better if we appreciate each other :D We mitsubishi guys already have a fuck load a problems and BS of the same kind from the Honda and acura guys (higher in population :( ) so i leave it to u (eclipse, 3000gt and evolution) guys to decide, WANNA STICK TOGETHER AND LIVE OR WANNA TALK COCK AND GET SHOT BY THOSE (HONDA AND ACURA) GUYS :shakehead
JoeWagon
02-24-2004, 11:46 PM
we get shot by honda owners?
Rob, you didn't really answer my concern. I wasn't serious about racing; i was trying to rise above those dumb statements of 'ill race you' PLUS nobody was talking about a VR4 being slow, so you weren't being insulted or anything.
Oh and FYI the z06 isn't stock either, but it doesn't matter who would win, there are always faster cars. I have a friend with a twin turbo LS1, another with a nitro dragster, and a Diablo VT. You can beat a lot of good cars, be glad that you can- it's why you spent all that money :)
It's just that it didn't matter.. what if someone from the nissan forum came over and said "oh yeah, well i'll race you with my RB26DETT Z" wasn't about that.
Rob, you didn't really answer my concern. I wasn't serious about racing; i was trying to rise above those dumb statements of 'ill race you' PLUS nobody was talking about a VR4 being slow, so you weren't being insulted or anything.
Oh and FYI the z06 isn't stock either, but it doesn't matter who would win, there are always faster cars. I have a friend with a twin turbo LS1, another with a nitro dragster, and a Diablo VT. You can beat a lot of good cars, be glad that you can- it's why you spent all that money :)
It's just that it didn't matter.. what if someone from the nissan forum came over and said "oh yeah, well i'll race you with my RB26DETT Z" wasn't about that.
Chavez408
02-24-2004, 11:47 PM
i say we go and hunt the honduhs then get drunk then pick up some bitches and hoes and after messin' with those hoes with get drunk ones again! then we end up in the streets talkin' to rocks and bricks!! then passed out!!
Wooo Woooo Hoooo.....!!!
Wooo Woooo Hoooo.....!!!
95eclipse-gsx
02-25-2004, 12:04 AM
SHOT doesnt mean they will rape us in the race... i meant in a fight caz they got more ppl.. and in talking BS also they win and get on our nerves... u wouldnt understand this problem unless u whit 1000 ppl where u drive the only GSX and there are over 300 civics and 200 integras and the rest are all muscle mother fakas who hate imports... thats the only reason i spend most of the time interacting with people in this forum.. and i dont want to read the BS here again atleast not within mitsubishi :( (Hope u all get me) just becaz they got a bunch of ppl to back up their statements does'nt mean they all are tough guys with badass cars. why is that u dont see 95gsxracer replying in threads like these... doesnt mean he is a scary puss.. its just that he know his cars potential and he can prove it in the track not by talking... The only guys i have respect would be those NISSAN guys... i dont see any nissan guy comming here or anyother forum to brag wat their cars can do although they have the best 6 cylinder in the world :loser:
talskinyguy
02-25-2004, 01:08 PM
although they have the best 6 cylinder in the world :loser:
I have to disagree, they have the best drivetrain in the world. but they bought a US company that designed it. The supra has had over 900hp on stock internals, the 3000GT has had over 800. In the 1/4 mile the supra has the best engine / drivetrain, not the skyline. The reason the skyline is so cool is because we cant have one in the US.
I have to disagree, they have the best drivetrain in the world. but they bought a US company that designed it. The supra has had over 900hp on stock internals, the 3000GT has had over 800. In the 1/4 mile the supra has the best engine / drivetrain, not the skyline. The reason the skyline is so cool is because we cant have one in the US.
Nalizan
02-26-2004, 03:40 AM
I've always looked down upon Nitrous. I dunno to me it seems like cheating.
87Porsche951
02-26-2004, 04:21 AM
I dont consider Nitrous cheating because its another form of forced induction. If nitrous is cheating than so is Turbochargers & Superchargers.
When you street race you are racing all kinds od setups. There are no rules in street racing nor are there race classes that would prohibit certains things. The only time you can make sure the cars are in same class would to race at a legal track that or creat your own organized street racing made up of classes and do engine inspections just like the legal racing.
I do however dont like when people just buy a car thats stock a hook up a nitrous kit and brag about them being quick cause any jack@$$ can have a nitrous kit installed. If the car is actually built up and then has a nitrous kit i do respect that.
When you street race you are racing all kinds od setups. There are no rules in street racing nor are there race classes that would prohibit certains things. The only time you can make sure the cars are in same class would to race at a legal track that or creat your own organized street racing made up of classes and do engine inspections just like the legal racing.
I do however dont like when people just buy a car thats stock a hook up a nitrous kit and brag about them being quick cause any jack@$$ can have a nitrous kit installed. If the car is actually built up and then has a nitrous kit i do respect that.
youngvr4
02-26-2004, 04:28 AM
i agree
Nalizan
02-26-2004, 05:19 AM
Im not saying it is cheating thats just my impression of it.
I would never use it. I like power that is there all the time not just a few seconds
I would never use it. I like power that is there all the time not just a few seconds
RomainDeaMarchi
02-26-2004, 08:18 PM
It looks like someone took a dump in your car EclipseRST. Haha :P
EclipseRST
02-26-2004, 10:08 PM
a dump in my car? WTF are you talking about?
Tomeek
04-25-2004, 06:53 PM
a dump in my car? WTF are you talking about?
lol Yeah I wanna know 2... smart comments shouldn't stay w/o an answer...
lol Yeah I wanna know 2... smart comments shouldn't stay w/o an answer...
Talon69
04-25-2004, 07:09 PM
I believe EclipseRST would smoke him, he is a true racer and knows his shit!!! Besides 222hp aint shit for that car hell i will race you with my 95 tsi awd
and smoke you as well.
and smoke you as well.
Chavez408
04-25-2004, 07:21 PM
well ur two months behind on that race..check the date on the thread ;)
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