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Tips for racing a FWD


ColeIketani
01-30-2004, 05:40 PM
I'm asking this newbie question, just cause there are probably many people want to know about these things and are afraid to ask. So if anyone wants to give good racing tips (and not shit like "get a RWD") please add them. I'll add mine later


I'll be posting two other ones for racing RWDs and AWD

RACER D12
01-30-2004, 06:08 PM
R on your shifter does NOT equal "race mode" :slap:

ColeIketani
01-30-2004, 06:20 PM
not sure if that was a tip or a poke at me.....j/k j/k :p

RACER D12
01-30-2004, 06:32 PM
No not making fun of you. Some of the other regulars here know the story Im talking.

DkShadow
01-30-2004, 07:52 PM
"and not shit like "get a RWD""


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I hear getting better/stronger motor mounts help alot in battling the torque steer the FWDs have a tendacy to do. An LSD? Stickier tires and the BPUs (Basic performance Upgrades) Uhmm... lets see what else....

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Buy a RWD!!!

:p

ColeIketani
01-30-2004, 08:04 PM
funny man...

I didn't mean anything when I meant "shit like don't buy an RWD", I meant like I didn't want to hear flames from RWD who likes thier RWD better....cause that doesn't help LOL. This thread is for FWD tips lol

arkturus
01-31-2004, 01:00 AM
The first lesson on FWD racing is point-steer-and-go which cant be said of AWD or RWD

PunkAlex
01-31-2004, 10:38 AM
The first lesson on FWD racing is point-steer-and-go which cant be said of AWD or RWD

ummm are you saying that rwd and awd dont go in the direction that you steer them???

ColeIketani
01-31-2004, 10:47 AM
I think what arkturus is trying to say is that the FWD steers where the front wheels are pointed, so litttle countersteer is needed. Correct me if I'm wrong here...

RACER D12
01-31-2004, 11:54 AM
Very ture thats why Fwd cars do very well in autoX and tight places.

arkturus
01-31-2004, 12:17 PM
That’s exactly what I meant ColeIketani. As a matter of fact counter steering is not even necessary in most cases. What I mean by this is that it is very easy to do throttle controlled corrections.

ColeIketani
01-31-2004, 01:29 PM
chalk one point up for ColeIketani!!! heh

SiGNAL748
01-31-2004, 08:38 PM
i have nothing very constructive to say but:

Understeer Sucks.

ColeIketani
01-31-2004, 09:06 PM
Yes, but some light braking before going into a turn or left foot braking will help overcome understeer

Ace$nyper
01-31-2004, 09:18 PM
this thread blows!

ColeIketani
01-31-2004, 11:32 PM
look, I'm serious, you should only post here if you have tips or pointers. Bitching or flaming doesn't help anyone, just makes you look stupid... especially when you post on one of the other two threads lol

ColeIketani
02-01-2004, 05:16 AM
So guys, (I know I'm going to get flames for this, but I don't really care), any suggestions for cornering with FWDs?

I'd suggest light braking before the corner (as with almost any car) before entering the corner for more stable cornering

Neutrino
02-01-2004, 06:39 AM
So guys, (I know I'm going to get flames for this, but I don't really care), any suggestions for cornering with FWDs?

I'd suggest light braking before the corner (as with almost any car) before entering the corner for more stable cornering


any poiter in picking up redheads....since all girls with red hair are the same there must be an universal pick up line to get them into the sack


get the hint

there is no universal cornering advice

what is the weight distribution of the car?
how powerful are the brakes?
what is the brake distribution f/r?
how much fade had the brakes experienced so far ?
what are the spring rates at each corner?
what is the damping curve of the shock/strut?
what kind of supension setup are we talking about(strut, multilink,wishbone)?
what kind of tires is the car using?
how worn are they?
how many consecutive runs have you had on those tires?


and enough about the car now lets get to the track

what kind of competition?
what kind of surface?
what type of corner?
after finishing the corner how soon do you have to be set up for the next corner?

answer all these question and then we could posibly give you apropriate answers.

depending on those variable an FF car can understeer, oversteer, snap oversteer, do an 4 wheel slide, or corner neutrally and your response should be determined by it


FYI:This can aply to all your threads

Ace$nyper
02-01-2004, 11:22 AM
any poiter in picking up redheads....since all girls with red hair are the same there must be an universal pick up line to get them into the sack


get the hint

there is no universal cornering advice

what is the weight distribution of the car?
how powerful are the brakes?
what is the brake distribution f/r?
how much fade had the brakes experienced so far ?
what are the spring rates at each corner?
what is the damping curve of the shock/strut?
what kind of supension setup are we talking about(strut, multilink,wishbone)?
what kind of tires is the car using?
how worn are they?
how many consecutive runs have you had on those tires?


and enough about the car now lets get to the track

what kind of competition?
what kind of surface?
what type of corner?
after finishing the corner how soon do you have to be set up for the next corner?

answer all these question and then we could posibly give you apropriate answers.

depending on those variable an FF car can understeer, oversteer, snap oversteer, do an 4 wheel slide, or corner neutrally and your response should be determined by it


FYI:This can aply to all your threads very well put
also bitching and flaming doesn't make me look stupid it helps me so don't bitch your self

ColeIketani
02-01-2004, 11:54 AM
well it does when you post tips on one thread an bitch on the other two, but whatever


Now Neutrino does bring up a good point, and that criticium does actually help people when they are cornering etc.

Mediocrity
02-01-2004, 12:04 PM
I'm not exactly a racer, but I do fun runs through my country road home just to push my limits a little farther...and I've found this kind of helps on nice turns:

When you're approaching a turn, tap the brakes to initiate a little slowdown and AS you're getting set into the turn (not when you're already set) gas it. FWD are very unlikely to lose rear end control on dry pavement and the fast in/out you get with that is a normal racing tactic.

I dunno if that's exclusive to FWD or if it's a universal tactic... because I'm not a racer but I've learned that really helps. And since no one else is really being useful here... I thought I'd put my input in.

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