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650 HP Eclipse?


Eclipse lover
01-29-2004, 02:52 PM
What should I do/buy for havin more or less 650 hp from my 2g GS-T?
I can use also components for race use only, but i prefer that the components have long life(10000-15000 miles without spending 10000$ or more for change it). Money isn't a problem, I got so much time for realize my dream.
Help me please

Import2nr99
01-29-2004, 03:03 PM
Well if money is no problem... start with one of these http://www.ffwdconnection.com/dsm2.htm that way you've got a perfect base to work off. Then go with a rediculous race turbo. Look on forcedperformance.com or dsmparts.com for ideas. and see where you're at. Add some serious tunning and you might... and I say might, be close. 650 HP is f'in insane to pull out of a 4 cylinder. But more power to you. Enjoy your dream. and should you ever need help gettin rid of the money let me know. I'll be glad to help

smokeurass
01-29-2004, 03:10 PM
ur going to have to work internals, thats all i have ta say. You better make sure everything else on your car is in excellent condition when you reach that kind of power. ACT 2900 lbs will be needed or something stronger (i dunno), horrible for daily drive. Ah...not sure bout other stuff....get a turbonetics t66, big turbo. Ull need a huge intercooler, n ull have to cut off some of the front bumper, which is lame. You might need nitrous if you cant pull it off with big turbo.

This is a waist of money and time for a DSM. Theres one guy who hit around 600 in sport compact car w/o nitrous. He did a hell of a latta work. To be honest, i think u prolly wont even reach 400. Just cuz if you have to ask how to get up to 600 hp, you obvously dont know anything about these cars.

mitsu_eclipse95gst
01-29-2004, 04:18 PM
There is an eclipse with dam close to 600AWHP in sports compact car.

mitsu_eclipse95gst
01-29-2004, 04:21 PM
Why do you want 600 hp?
Why not buy a GSX if money dont matter?
GS-T spins like crazy stock!

89Turbo944
01-29-2004, 04:27 PM
Ya, A GS-T is not a good base to start with for a 650hp car. If you have the money to spend do it right. Get a 99 GSX, and go from there. I have seen full race motors with about 650WHP, just buy one of those. ANd you are done. But this engine will not be reliable. Ona car that is literly tripling the stock power you will not have much in the way of reliability. 10000-150000 miles is near impossible. With that kind of power your going to blow something up.

Y do you want to get that kind of power anyway? Is this car for drag? Or are you going with a daily driver?
Cause if you are going with a daily driver then i would not ecede 450hp. Even that will give you more problems than you want to deal with.
I think maby you should reconsider what you will be using the car for and make a realistic goal.

JMO

BoostedSpyder
01-29-2004, 06:23 PM
i think you would tear the drivetrain out of a GS-T with that kind of power, first of all. second, where did you get this # from? this is a FF car. you will spin the sires like crazy. you would also have to have a completely raced out engine and a huge turbo. in short you will have to replace EVERYTHING. now if you are looking for 400whp, that is VERY attainable with ONLY bolt on's.

ok, since you asked about it, here you go, but realize this is an AWD GSX, not a FF GS-T[and everyone else notice it is tuned with AEM EMS -not- DSMLink!!! *i like EMS better, so that's why i mention it ;)]
650AWD Horsepower USCC GSX (http://forum.aempower.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=5131)
Roy's GSX's profile on RRE (http://www.roadraceengineering.com/rre/teamroyzgsx.htm)

JoeWagon
01-29-2004, 06:44 PM
I always laugh when I see these posts. 99% of people on this site don't know what 650 horsepower means. If you mean 650 wheel horsepower you're off your rocker.

95eclipse-gsx
01-29-2004, 07:11 PM
hey just out of curiosity !!! how much horsepower does those F1 cars have?

BoostedSpyder
01-29-2004, 08:01 PM
over 1200 and with 1.0 litre NATUARLLY ASPIRATED engines. realize they are light as hell and on race gas too...

JoeWagon
01-29-2004, 08:28 PM
that's obsurd, and not even near accurate...

The Ferrari F1-2000 is a 3 liter V10 with 770bhp mid engine rear drive, 7 speed semi-automatic sequential. 600kg / 1300 lbs

turbo2nr
01-29-2004, 09:34 PM
damm i was just hoping for a modest 350wheel hp and 400wheel hp fully wrked, but 650 omg thats a hell of a lot.. i can go to stop lite a to stoplie b in .5 sec! now dats fast, common be realistic, a 650hp street car, where can u drive that? and 650hp is a hell of a lot of wrk, rist tune your car to about 300hp @ wheels then report back and tell us if you need another 350+hp..
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mitsu_eclipse95gst
01-29-2004, 09:38 PM
Really

smokeurass
01-30-2004, 10:28 AM
There is an eclipse with dam close to 600AWHP in sports compact car.

i said that....

LandoAWD
01-30-2004, 10:32 AM
What should I do/buy for havin more or less 650 hp from my 2g GS-T?
I can use also components for race use only, but i prefer that the components have long life(10000-15000 miles without spending 10000$ or more for change it). Money isn't a problem, I got so much time for realize my dream.
Help me please
Take the body off, and put it on a blown mustang.

Eclipse lover
01-30-2004, 12:55 PM
damm i was just hoping for a modest 350wheel hp and 400wheel hp fully wrked, but 650 omg thats a hell of a lot.. i can go to stop lite a to stoplie b in .5 sec! now dats fast, common be realistic, a 650hp street car, where can u drive that? and 650hp is a hell of a lot of wrk, rist tune your car to about 300hp @ wheels then report back and tell us if you need another 350+hp..
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One of my friends got a Supra with more than 800 HP and he use it on street(not everyday it's clear, but.....)

I don't like so much 4wd except for the Skyline R34 GT-R

Here there is a man with a Ferrari 360 Modena and a 355 Berlinetta, i just wanna smoke him :evillol: that's why i want a 650 hp car

LandoAWD
01-30-2004, 01:01 PM
I'd try a Ferrari from light to light, and I have WAY less than 650hp. How in the blue hell did that number pop in your head anyway? Modena is 0-60 mph - 4.3 seconds...

smokeurass
01-30-2004, 01:05 PM
There is plenty of 700+ hp daily driver supra's out there. I have a cousin n a friend with em. They've owned em both for over a year.

Lots of tq will be built up in the higher rpm range, supra's can be daily drivers (you n i both know ur friend dont have a 800hp supra) with lots of power. 2JZ's are bullet proof.

Your eclipse of course will need internal engine work, which wont be reliable, thats why it cant be a daily driver.

If you want so much power, buy a supra then. Again, you obvously dont have a friend wit a supra.

Eclipse lover
01-30-2004, 01:14 PM
I'd try a Ferrari from light to light, and I have WAY less than 650hp. How in the blue hell did that number pop in your head anyway? Modena is 0-60 mph - 4.3 seconds...
there is an english car(Caterham Superseven R500)that with his 230 hp and 460 kg 0-60 3.5 sec........

smokeurass
01-30-2004, 01:16 PM
just.....stop....

LandoAWD
01-30-2004, 01:25 PM
there is an english car(Caterham Superseven R500)that with his 230 hp and 460 kg 0-60 3.5 sec........
Look man, this has NOTHING to do with this thread. I am well aware of the existance of super cars, an VERY well aware of "dreamer" posts. :uhoh:

95eclipse-gsx
01-30-2004, 01:26 PM
ok if u want to smoke a ferrari and money is not a problem for u.. why dont u buy a supra tt or a skyline gtr-34 :D less hassle... but thats just my idea :)

LandoAWD
01-30-2004, 01:27 PM
ok if u want to smoke a ferrari and money is not a problem for u..
...then just buy the Ferrari, find a way to add 10whp, and you are all set. This really is a rediculous thread.

95eclipse-gsx
01-30-2004, 01:28 PM
lol :D

Eclipse lover
01-30-2004, 03:15 PM
americani deficienti

LandoAWD
01-30-2004, 03:22 PM
Puntura italiana stupid. Faccia le vostre domande altrove.

Import2nr99
01-30-2004, 03:43 PM
yea.... what he said

LandoAWD
01-30-2004, 03:49 PM
Heh...he called me a deficient American, so I called him an Italian prick, and told him to look for info somewhere else. It's not like he is serious here.

Chavez408
01-30-2004, 04:30 PM
kick his ass landonAWD!! :evillol:

JoeWagon
01-30-2004, 06:07 PM
you can do 650whp street fine, but the only way to do it is pay someone who knows what they are doing to build the car for you. There is no way you are going to attain 'shepherdness' through a forum. lets NOT keep talking about how everyones friend has a 700 horse supra and how much you want a skyline and to smoke a ferrari.

The only thing a newbie is going to smoke is a doobie full of inexperience. write that down.

EDIT>> change Landon to Lando... i try not to mess up peoples names if i hope they will spare me some of their time and knowledge later on.

Chavez408
01-30-2004, 06:22 PM
alright then....its only a typo :) Lando*********

with a capital "L"

JoeWagon
01-30-2004, 06:29 PM
I'm just trying to help you out, you wouldn't want to call your boss the wrong name, or make the 2nd most knowledgable person on this site not want to help :)

Chavez408
01-30-2004, 06:39 PM
its du-mass!


ooo boyyy i love that comercial :lol:

kjewer1
01-31-2004, 11:01 PM
ONE thought came to mind when I read the original post. And Boosted Spyder hit it first. 650 whp on a FWD car is... I'm not sure what to call that, but it wont be "smart." The car wont hook up in any gear, on the street. A fully built and chassis tuned drag car on a prepared and treated drag strip with drag tires and suspension might be able to pull it off. If this is seriously the goal, you will go AWD, or RWD on another platform.

Another thing to consider is you wont get 650 whp out of a 2 liter 4 banger on pump gas. Race gas will be required to make that power. The current "record" as far as I know is Andre's car at 503 whp, and hes pretty much alone in that game. I'm going for the same power this year on pump, but I dont expect it will be easy. 500 is a huge jump from 400 if you know what I mean. But a 500 whp pump gas car shouldnt have much trouble doing over 600 whp on race gas either. Its ok to have lofty goals, as long as you know the realistic limits of what has been done and what you think you can do. Just because dre did 503 whp doesnt mean no one can go higher, it just means you have a lot of learning to do and a lot of money to spend. The pump gas game is a tough one.

Just my 2 cents...

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