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Ghost96Gt
01-24-2004, 12:41 PM
Hey,
I got a 96 gt and the back end seems really loose like i give it mybe 1/4 to 1/3 thottle and it just comes loss what gives is my rear end out of wack or something. I do not believe its the tires i got Nitto 450 i think and they pry got 1000 miles on them but i cant really drive it hard because it keeps kicking out. I am only 16 so yea my skill isnt the greatest, but my dad has the same problem hes 40 and has pretty good experience with fast cars and power lol from all the dumb Sh*t he did. so i just dont know what gives i took it to a shop and they put it on a lift and said nothing was wrong that they could see. Do you guys think the steeda 5-link suspension would help out? Thanks for all the info.
Ken

Ghost96Gt
01-26-2004, 01:41 PM
i should also add that it was not like that before i spun it :banghead:! I was a complete dumbass and didnt respect the car. Basicly what happen i am on i think I-71 coming from clevland and it was alittle wet outside so i am coming out of the rest area and gave it some gas not to hard but enough so i would be at like 70 and infront of the truck coming well i took it up to 5500 or so shifted and boom the back end came out i countersteer saved it but it swang left (I know not to brake or give gas u know just counter steer and try to save it but forgot to take the clutch out) saved it left it started coming right and i think my car stalled not sure but some how it swang twice as hard right and i went for a spin across the interstate. scared the living hell out of me. It caused me to respect my car alot more and i never mess around in the wet now and even when i am in the dry i am kinda relunctent to slam it. but neways i just think the mech didnt really look that hard or something bc something has to have bent when i hit the median bc its not the same!!! what mods should i get to keep my back end tighter. But hey the mustang is a tail happy car. I have done alot of research and all i am just kinda stuck with what should i buy i was think steeda 5 link suspesion new strut bars and mrt suspension it was in mustangs & fast fords! ty guys for all the help this is a awsome site i have learned alot here and its great u guys accutly take time and help ppl and talk to them
Ken

SkylineUSA
01-26-2004, 02:00 PM
Sounds like your limited slip, is an open now.

Have you checked to see? If not, go put the car into some grass and spin the tires, you should see power tracks on both sides of the car.

Ace$nyper
01-26-2004, 02:50 PM
+1 here you sound like you busted your lsd.

Ghost96Gt
01-27-2004, 08:45 PM
Thanks guys ill go check it out soon also if it is what type of lsd do u recomend or should i get the ECTED. anyone when know of a posi that can be switched on and off from locked to unlocked?
Ken

Ghost96Gt
01-27-2004, 08:50 PM
ty for info will try to spin my tires and see what happends. If it is broke what type of differental u recomend and what about ECTED? do u guys know of anying posi that u can switch bettween locked and unlocked? ty
Ken

GTStang
01-27-2004, 09:26 PM
Thanks guys ill go check it out soon also if it is what type of lsd do u recomend or should i get the ECTED. anyone when know of a posi that can be switched on and off from locked to unlocked?
Ken

The ECTED is very new so I have had no expirence with it at all. The only other diff I know that can be turned off and on is the ARB AirLocker. I have had this unit in my car at one time. I had no problems with it and loved it but it was a lot $$$ compared to other diffs and did need the pump for it. I don't know what ECTED runs for $$$ or much else about it. Call rears and gears they will have all the info you need. A lot of people underestimate the quality you can get out of the stock Ford Trac-Loc when rebuilt with some tricks. There is a 91 Stang GT that runs high 9's with a rebuilt Trac-Loc.

Ghost96Gt
01-28-2004, 09:55 AM
ight if i get the ford Trac-Loc what type of tricks should i get done. also correct me if i am wrong did some research and this is what i came up with open one tire power lsd power to both tires but with a clutch in it so when u take coners one tire is allowed to spin those getting rid or wheel hop and posi/locked both tires lock together and the same rpm and hops when hits coners so basicly lsd is the best of both worlds whats the advantage for locked over lsd if lsd does the same thing on the straights?

Hypsi87
01-28-2004, 10:28 AM
Man every car with a LSD I have been in likes to throw the rear end sideways. I would think that if anything it is working fine. I mean with my GN I have to pretty much FORCE the car to go sideways. It won't do it like a LSD car will

SkylineUSA
01-28-2004, 12:01 PM
I would think you would more inclined to slip the rear with 300hp to one wheel, rather than 150 to two?

I maybe wrong :smile:

HiFlow5 0
01-28-2004, 12:30 PM
I would think you would more inclined to slip the rear with 300hp to one wheel, rather than 150 to two?

I maybe wrong :smile:
Yup yup, ditto!

Hypsi87
01-28-2004, 02:05 PM
I would think you would more inclined to slip the rear with 300hp to one wheel, rather than 150 to two?

I maybe wrong :smile:

Yea but think about this... On a open rearend, the tire that spins is the tire with the least ammount of traction and weight on it right? But on a posi (LSD) both tires spin. Including the one with most of the weight. With a posi, both tires spin but that does not mean that both tires are getting the same ammount of traction. That is where Airbags inside your coilspring help.

SkylineUSA
01-28-2004, 02:23 PM
If that theory was true, why do all track cars run some sort of LSD?

Nice try, you almost had me :grinno:

Hypsi87
01-28-2004, 02:38 PM
You can counter it with spring rates. Airbags and other such stuff. Slicks and other such sticky tires will help to. A peg legged car won't throw the rear end around as easily

SkylineUSA
01-28-2004, 02:57 PM
So, this theory applies to normal street driving? Going around a corner, the weight transfer will always be on the outside tire yes? So, in a normal open rear ALL the power will transfered to the inner tire, right? Well, don't you think that with more power, less grip your going to get slipage on the inner wheel, now the outer wheel has to support the cars weight and momentum, because the inner tire would be more inclined for slipping.

SkylineUSA
01-28-2004, 03:17 PM
Also, we are refering to a car that might have a broken LSD, will that act just like a normal open rear?

LSD apply power to the wheel that has the most grip. I would be much more inclined to say it would be more stable than an open. Although suspension will play a major factor in this equation.

I have a LSD diff inmy Stang, before the PHB my tail was always swinging out. Now the car is on rails.

Ghost96Gt
01-29-2004, 04:50 PM
skyline phb u mean pan handle bar? if so which brand did u get? how much?

SkylineUSA
01-29-2004, 05:40 PM
Pan Hard Bar.

I went with Maximum Motorsports. I spent a lot of hours researching between them and Griggs. Cost, performance, install, and design to me all went to MM. With MM's PHB I was still able to have my exhaust run out using a tail pipe, with Griggs you have to use dumps. I really do not like dumps, makes the car too loud for my taste.

Took me by myself about 3 hours to install the PHB in my driveway. It would have been a lot quicker but my drill bite were very dull :banghead:

Ghost96Gt
01-29-2004, 09:52 PM
what exactly is one? And ur cars handles like rails man i dream of that lol jk

Ghost96Gt
01-29-2004, 10:02 PM
it says that the mustangs 4 point suspension or something.. corrects lateral motion, if i went to steeda's 5 link would it correct this problem?

SkylineUSA
01-30-2004, 12:53 AM
Ghost,

Go to their web site. There is a lot of good info on there.

www.maximummotorsports.com

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