GM needs to get it straight!!!

Can you belive the total load of crap gm has been feeding us lately. For starters look at the banana on wheels the ssr does any like that thing? i recently wrote a letter to chevy asking them why the discontinued camaros the said they did it because of a dead market. Well wat the hell if theres no market for camaros who gonna buy a wimpy 5.4 ugly ass ssr. On my second note they discontinued the firebirds because sales were down. Well if firebirds aint sellin then niether will the boring old gto for a higher price. And this is old news but it really gets to me, THE HEAD LIGHTS ON POST 2000 chevy trucks they creep me out it looks like its smiling at you. Oh and lets look at the colorado pretty good looking truck but what did they do the put an inline 5 in it, way to screw up a good thing. GET IT TOGETHER GM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahaha thats some good shit the ssr is a little too much to digest its pretty sad, and the GTO is simply a dif body from the firebird/camaro/TA everything else is the same stuff new name close to the same price

hahaha thats some good stuff the ssr is a little too much to digest its pretty sad, and the GTO is simply a dif body from the firebird/camaro/TA everything else is the same stuff new name close to the same price

actually, ive worked on and driven the new SSR, its hot shit, the interior is amazing by chevy standards, the fit and finish of the car is leaps and bounds above anything else in the lineup, save the opel/malibu and the new colorado. it comes with a torsen rear end with 3.73 gears, and a 300hp 5.3L V8. its actually a very very nice vehicle, and will shit and git in a heartbeat. im sorry you dont like how it looks, i kinda do actually, and i applaud chevy for breaking out and doing something different. rather than following the trends. i think that was the main reason it was built, to show that chevy can do something cool if it wants to, know what i want to know is, when are they going to WANT to make the whole product line kick ass again????

oh and do not confuse the GTO with the old F-bodies, they are completely different machines, kinda like saying the vette, F-body, and trucks are the same, cuz they have the LS1 based engines, four wheels, and transmissions. the GTO is a holden monaro with a new nose, not a revamped F-body.

I dont know why but the ssr reminds me of plymouths prowler , it seems like it has a very small market but is pretty cool nonetheless. I still want my damn camaro back . I think the gto is a good idea tho. They need camaros and firebird to add to the ls1 lineup man !!!

i have driven the ssr at the dealership i work at, and i jus think between that and the gto gm is making up for what they took away, even tho the vette is still around; they have made these other cars/panzy truck wanna be's w/v'8s and it bothers me becuase it seems like a corney way to phase out the f-body......they may aswell ditch the vette the got the insane z06

im not against the gto at all im just disapointed in the looks and what im sayin is if gm ever wants to reagain the empire it once had it needs to apeal to the average joe with a heavy right foot not the snoody uper class ssr tyrpe people. i think the ssr ir an atempt to grab the pt cruiser slash used to be prower market. it looks like a cross between the two

I WANT MY TURBO V-6 BACK!!!!!!!!!! :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying: Just kiddin. Anyway Thank corprate GM for all of this. All business thinks about now is how to bring in money and How to save it..... Accually makes me applaud ford for standing behind it's performance program. Yes GM still has the vette but honestly.... Thats alot of money.

Oh well. Theirsstill hope with the Pontiac front drivers; (Grand Prix GTP), and maybe the GTO. Just do a ADM conversion (like JDM lol)

the GTO and the F-bodies were designed for two different segments, the GTO is a 2+2 seatign arrangement whereas the F-bodies had no back seat to speak of. GM isn't doing too bad if you think about it...there might be alot of rebadging going on but they're trying to cut down on that by eliminating olds, which was stealing sales from buick....I personally think that GMC should be eliminated too ebcause if you look at total sales of GMC and chevy trucks combined it's more than the ford F-150... they could also get rid of saturn (what a waste of time) and spend more time designing or refreshing the SUVs...plus spend more money developing an economical sportscar...oh wait...already did that...it's called the kappa platform ^_^

the F-bodies had no back seat to speak of.
Huh?

Personally, i think they should keep GMC, simply because they make the make the most beautiful trucks (Seirra and Yukon XL)

Oh yeah, their is hope for saturn, with the Redline ION, which doesnt look too bad with its large 17 chromies. Unfortunatly its supercharged. No, thats not bad. But it only makes 200hp.

there are several girls out there that can attest to the fact that my camaro has a back seat :)

there are several girls out there that can attest to the fact that my camaro has a back seat :)


Yea every girl that has been in the back seat of the GN comments on how comfy they are. Hmmmmm I wonder what she meant by that :evillol:

lol, im sure youll figure it out someday. :)

Yeah, I'm sure my camaro has a back seat too...good thing cuz my daughter wouldn't look good straped to the hood. And about the GTO...man leave the goat alone. Even if it's a rear whell drive grand prix with bad ass writen all over it..cuz well it is a bad ass. All we can do is hope and pray that the camaro comes back to us better and bolder than ever. And if GM brings it back like the did the malibu or the impala then we'll all jump in our f-bodies and take a trip to the corpate building and honk our horns. I'm sure we'd get there attention, well we'd have to burn one at there door steps.

dude, im there :) can i light it off can i can i can i PLEASE!?!?!?!?!?!?!

i recently wrote a letter to chevy asking them why the discontinued camaros the said they did it because of a dead market.
:screwy: :screwy: That's such :bs: . GM has fallen into the same damn trap as almost all other sports car makers out there. They start going bigger and bigger with the extras. Next thing you know they have priced them self's clean out of the price range for the people that put them on the map. Then the makers cry that the market is dead or dry.
As I have said in other posts. GM needs to take good hard look back and see what made the camaro the power house it was. :banghead:
A low cost no frill's HP monster that anyone with a half assed job could buy. Then play at the track on the weekends and drive it to work on the weekdays. :2cents:
Sure, the SSR & GTO are cool new cars. But there nothing more then another choice for the rich boys looking for a new toy. That way they can show the world they make way to much money. :sly:

Yeah, I'm sure my camaro has a back seat too...good thing cuz my daughter wouldn't look good straped to the hood. And about the GTO...man leave the goat alone. Even if it's a rear whell drive grand prix with bad ass writen all over it..cuz well it is a bad ass. All we can do is hope and pray that the camaro comes back to us better and bolder than ever. And if GM brings it back like the did the malibu or the impala then we'll all jump in our f-bodies and take a trip to the corpate building and honk our horns. I'm sure we'd get there attention, well we'd have to burn one at there door steps.

i agree, we should all mass together, drive our f-bodies to the gm corporate building and leave burnout marks all over the place, show them why the camaro is special to us :smokin:

cdt

dude get rid of the ssr im already tired of it . wat ever happened to the camaros they were there then they werent. GMC needs to get it strait. 89iroc&rs u suck u need to get a life and a better prospective on cars u stupid fiery. but any way i think the gto idea is excelent but come on i wish they would get a better look. I agree with 99camaross pontiac needs to ad some varity to its cars they all look exactly the same. wat is the deal with the exaust on the GTO sure it is dual but it looks like a runny nose[wet noodle].

89iroc&rs u suck u need to get a life and a better prospective on cars u stupid ferry
lol..

lmao, dude, if your gonna insult me, at least spell the word right, first im fiery, as in hot tempered and short fused, then im a ferry, as in a friggin boat lol. im curious to see how many tries it will take to spell the damn word right.

as far as my views on cars, i do appriciate what is on the market today, and dont dilute myself and live in a never never land like you, and sit around bitching that no one is building a 1970 chevelle SS LS6 454 anymore, and dodge dosnt have the 426 Hemi charger, i dont sit around and piss and moan that i dont get to have my way. i accept what the market is, like a grown up (not fair i know, its probly beyond your abilities) and judge the car as it is, in the time it is. would i rather have the LS6 chevelle, absolutely, a ZL1 camaro, in a heart beat, do i wish that chevy would grow its balls back, i hope every day to hear about it happening, but its not. so you can stomp around and be upset, or you can open your eyes, and actually accept the vehicles for what they are. oh and perhaps you could try to actually debate, rather than just saying, im right cuz your dumb, cuz then i can throw out, im rubber and your glue.... and then we can both be little retards. geezus, i mean seriouly, kid shows up with 4 posts, and starts talking shit to everyone. got some fucking sand. glad im not a mod, id be kicking all these upstart newbies showin up and talkin shit. rather than actually talking about cars, and helping people with problems.

Theres a few dead bodies that can account for my Camaro having a backseat...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/evil_lol.gifhttp://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/evil_lol.gifhttp://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/evil_lol.gif

89iroc&rs was that insult directed toward me?

99camaroSS, no, he was aiming it toward FTheRestGetA Z

I think we all need to get along

99camaroSS, that wasnt at you, you actually just stated your opinion, no harm in that, what were all here for actually. Ftherestgeta Z chose to come on here and start insulting people who disagre with his ideas for no apparent reason.

can someone please explain to me why the GTO is a bad-ass? its slower than a 2002 camaro, looks like a grand prix or grand am, and the chassis is from some old australian car. GTO is not a bad-ass.. its not even a half-ass. it just shows GM's shitty job at trying to make a replacement for the f-bodies... boo...

I guess the only reason that the GTO seems so bad ass, is because its the closest thing to a f-body. BTW the GTO's come with good sound systems.. Blaupunkt (Sp?) stock. Better then them damn Delcos!

BTW- me for Camaro mod :):)

lol, so c a m a r o, what exactly to you know about the holden monaro??? im assuming not much. no, it is not an F-body, not by any means, but it wasnt designed to be. is it a bandaid, yes, but also remember, these are the same cars used in australian V8 supercar racing. so they do have a pedagry. the V8's in them are also detuned for the US market. holden offers the same engine in australia with 380hp. but the us GM branch has no balls, so the power was dropped. dont dis the car, email gm and let them know whats up. the car is bad ass. GM just put a leash on it. for those of you who want to know how the power was dropped, kinda the same as the camaro vs the vette, diff exhaust, diff intake, and a cam change. put it all back, and you get the power, and for those who say, but its not powerfull stock. how many of you left your camaros stock??? you would have modified it anyway, probly with an exhaust, cam and intake, so what the fuck does it matter????

no swearing

sorry ma

Shit, theres no swearing? Damn, put a blower on it. hahah.

it seems like this is a very touchy sub, yet it's intresting seeing every bodies views on this