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88 iroc or 94 v6


99camaroSS
01-21-2004, 05:55 PM
Wat's up every body ive got a question. Im in the process of buying a camaro and i really like this 88 iroc i found for 3,500 but my parents think i shuld go for a more reliable 94 v6. i prefer the iroc but it is older and i dont really want to be fixing it every weekend id rather be spending my momey on performance parts. Wat do u guys think?

BadAzz240
01-21-2004, 09:10 PM
I would definatley get the iroc...way more potential...but the decision is up to you my freind. You have to decide what you would rather have. The iroc can be just as reliable and twice as fun.

drvngstorm05
01-21-2004, 09:13 PM
i have a 92 rs that i got for 1600, and its completely reliable. it has 140,000 miles on it. it has a 305 v8 w/ auto. i would go for the iroc, because w/ the v6 your only option to get high performance would be forced induction (turbo, super charger). w/ the iroc v8 you can push the naturally aspired limits or forced induction (i would prefer the options).

Chevyracincamaro
01-21-2004, 09:18 PM
i have a 94 v-6 and i am telling you that you will want the iroc. especially when you tell people you have a camaro and then have to tell em its a six a. with the 3.4 you have little to no aftermarket options. i'm runnin out of mods and, except a few personal touches, all i got is a PCM, intake, tune-up, and exhaust from the headers back. unless you want to tear the engine out and rebuild the top end your kindof limited. also, i havent seen a forced induction made specifically for the 3.4 but if someone has let me know, its either that or an LT-1.

drvngstorm05
01-21-2004, 09:30 PM
i have a 94 v-6 and i am telling you that you will want the iroc. especially when you tell people you have a camaro and then have to tell em its a six a. with the 3.4 you have little to no aftermarket options. i'm runnin out of mods and, except a few personal touches, all i got is a PCM, intake, tune-up, and exhaust from the headers back. unless you want to tear the engine out and rebuild the top end your kindof limited. also, i havent seen a forced induction made specifically for the 3.4 but if someone has let me know, its either that or an LT-1.

that's another thing actually, if u were to force induct a v6 u'd have to fab it up. about the lt1 tho, i have seen a turbo for it. its called a remote turbo kit, i've never seen one b4 so i couldn't tell u if it is good or not but here is a link
http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/inc/pdetail?v=1&pid=9402

99camaroSS
01-21-2004, 09:32 PM
im still not sure im kinda worried about insurance

Chevyracincamaro
01-21-2004, 09:36 PM
that's another thing actually, if u were to force induct a v6 u'd have to fab it up. about the lt1 tho, i have seen a turbo for it. its called a remote turbo kit, i've never seen one b4 so i couldn't tell u if it is good or not but here is a link
http://www.fbodymotorsports.com/inc/pdetail?v=1&pid=9402

i know what youre talkin about with those remote turbo kits. basically they put the turbo back where your muffler goes. theyre pretty much bs because of the back pressure, turbo lag, and the fact that you lose half of your boost as the air is moving back up to the front of the car. thats after you've run all the lines to the back of the car, which sucks in itself. not to mention the fact that you have a 900 degree turbo sittin pretty under your gas tank...

drvngstorm05
01-21-2004, 09:39 PM
the description claims that the wind will cool off the turbo and act similar to a intercooler. not sure i believe that tho, like u said they get hot as hell. if it didn't have so many flaws it'd be good, its a good idea, since the 4th gen's engine compartment is so crammed.

Chevyracincamaro
01-21-2004, 09:46 PM
i can agree with you, its a good idea. there are just better, more practical means of getting more power out of the car...

drvngstorm05
01-21-2004, 09:49 PM
i myself am gonna save up for a procharger intercooled s/c system. those things have crazy power increases not to mention less heat.

89IROC&RS
01-21-2004, 10:42 PM
i would say buy the IROC, if you want reliablity, how bout this. i bought mine in arkansas, looked it over, it had not been loved, dont think it had ever had an induction service, had two crossed plug wires, a broken O2 sensor, bad tires, and the guy was the kind to ride the car hard and put it away wet. his 13 year old daughter had put in laps around the yard in it. that kinda stuff. drove it home 1100 miles without a hiccup, only after i was home for a bit, the trans 3-4 clutchpack gave out, so its been parked. then just recently, i drove it into a fence, took out the fence pretty good, hit it at a really good clip and caught the vertical post right on the nose of the car. after pulling it out, had a few ripped off heat sheilds under the car, front chin spoiler is toast, hood has a few dents, nose is questionable. but. fired right up, and i drove it home. again, without a hiccup, even drivin home in second gear at 3000rpm for half an hour, it stayed below 190 degrees. a car more reliable, i would be very impressed to see. i love that car :)

99camaroSS
01-22-2004, 11:45 AM
sounds convincing

99camaroSS
01-22-2004, 11:46 AM
how much did u pay for your iroc

BigJustinZ28
01-22-2004, 12:22 PM
ya know for a couple grand more ya can get a lt1 4rth gen z28 :) . now whether they are very reliable I dont know. I got one that sittin out back cuz the rearend grenaded (start boosting hp and theyll do that). Payed 5k for my 97 altho its not perfect. It came with all the goodies tho :). Im still working all the bugs out once Im done it will be a pretty sick ride altho its already pretty fast. Of course in the meantime Im driving my 183k mile 84 z28 :). Now thats a reliable car.

cannibalrights
01-22-2004, 06:53 PM
Originally Posted by 99camaroSS
im still not sure im kinda worried about insurance

Dude... C a m a r o 88 IROC or 94 V6 eather way your gonna be paying insurance. I think mine is 1,300 a year.

89IROC&RS
01-22-2004, 07:13 PM
i paid 2300 for my IROC, but is definately, how you say, a work in progress..... especially now lol. but seriously, i spent an additional 2000 on parts to bring it up to Va inspection standards, so a reality cost would be say... 4500 bucks for a rough around the edges cosmeticly IROC that ran like a top. i can live with that :) as far as the LT1 camaros, they are good cars, but i am scared to death of that optispark distributor on the front. they are just breeding camps for gremlins. i dont like em, nope nope nope.

cannibalrights
01-22-2004, 07:39 PM
Yeah you spent money on fixing it up, but that was money well spent. You car looks sharp. Besides, thats how much you spent on fixing it up, not the regular price for one though.

89IROC&RS
01-22-2004, 07:58 PM
lol, well thanx for the compliment, but thats not the IROC :) thats my RS. shes the pretty one. the IROC is a little rough, paint peeling like all third gens do, very rough, torn up interior. all that. but mechanicly shes in great shape. and has just about every opion available except a rear defroster. thats why i bought her :) no pics of that one yet.

cannibalrights
01-22-2004, 08:04 PM
Hahaha, hell yeah. I dont have a rear defroster eather.
I love old school...

Vlad_Tepes
01-22-2004, 08:14 PM
So your telling me the opti spark on the LT1 is really that bad?

What can be done to fix or replace it

89IROC&RS
01-22-2004, 08:24 PM
well, the main thing about optispark, is that for regular applications, its not that bad. but start making more power, or heaven forbid, turn higher rpms than stock, and it dosnt hold up. what happens is the bearing on the rotor heats up, and actually melts the plastic housing, slowly offsetting the timing making the car run poorly, then it fails completely, grounding out and sending a spark to all 8 cylenders at the same time, you can see that with high performance options, or worst of all, nitrous, this is a very bad thing. as far as a fix, change your optispark every month, and youll be safe ;) lol, just kidding, i dunno, i guess its more of a personal thing, i just wouldnt want to trust a 10,000 dollar engine to an ignition with that kind of problem, but then again, ive heard of plenty of high performance LT1's that are perfecly reliable and dont grenaid. but i personally just wouldnt trust it. and would NEVER run nitrous on it. there might be an aftemarket one that holds up better, but im really not that up to speed on LT1 stuff. so i wouldnt know about it. you could probly start a post on it, and find out everything you ever wanted to know, and more ;)

supervisor1886
01-22-2004, 08:59 PM
buy the irock they are really reliable, remember when i hit a curbe and then drove it in a pole + 20 meters run on someones lawn, the engine didnt even die! Although the TPI needs constant service, so do new Camaros.

Vlad_Tepes
01-22-2004, 09:12 PM
Hehehe going to hijack this thread..LOL

Hey everyone what a good replacement for the Optispark on the LT1

Vlad_Tepes
01-22-2004, 09:14 PM
Canni
is that your ride bro?

koeb$
01-22-2004, 09:23 PM
ur INS wont b too bad, spend a few $ and take a defensive driving course and that lowers ur INS lik 15% and its not gonna to cool when people ask to see under your hood, get the iroc and get the parts for that...my 305 before i took it out had 143k on it and i could still smoke my tires

cannibalrights
01-22-2004, 09:39 PM
The car in my signature? Yep, thats my baby.

99camaroSS
01-22-2004, 09:44 PM
ur car is sweet id kill for a 3rd gen like that i just cant find any in my price range

Vlad_Tepes
01-22-2004, 09:58 PM
Canni

Yeah thats a sweet ass ride too man

89IROC&RS
01-22-2004, 09:58 PM
you talkin to me???? if so, ebay man, thats where i found mine. i didnt buy it on ebay by any means, never buy a car without driving it and checking it out in person. but its a great place to look and get all your info together. and get a feel for the market. lol, and actually, if your interested, im selling the RS, as is, with the damage on the side. starting price is 3000 bucks. all it needs is a new driver side door, and a quarter skin. i drive it every day right now. intereor is in prime shape, i have owned the car for the past three years, and have babied the hell out of it. needs a trans rebuild. and a paint job to be nearly perfect. forgot about that. but other than that, cherry. it has a jasper rebuilt engine, TBI 305, with around 15k on it. everything else is stock. has sony xplod speakers in all four spots, and a pos jenson head unit, it works, but youll want to replace it very quickly, very hard to get it to take a CD, once its in, it plays, but skips hardcore, but will spit it back out without a fuss. i have a guy in west virginia looking at it, but i havent heard from him for a while. so im thinking about just posting it for sale. if your interested, PM me your email, and i can send you some pics of the damage. but i warn ya, the pics are high detail, large images, so they fill up inboxes real quick.

IROC_Icarus
01-23-2004, 12:47 PM
ins is 160 a month for me(17) w/ full coverage.
I got mine on autotrader, I paid 2800 for a 96k 305+5spd that is rust free. Engine and trans are originals so it has the 5spd specific cam. A 5spd 305 can definitely kill the V6 camaros, I have. http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/501/137312IM000843-med.JPG

BTW, the little dent in the left quarter of my cavi Z24 bought my Iroc:)

bboyz28
01-23-2004, 02:15 PM
Why dont you just get a z28 94. There youre getting a new model with a good performance. You could find it for 4000 3500 or even less if you are lucky

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