new car...?

Yo, i was thinkin bout gettin a new car and tradin in my 97 rs but im not sure what to get... im lookin at the acura rsx's but i dont think i would get a new one, prolly just a certified used. and i was also lookin at the nissan SE-R's too.. what would be the better choice? if you have any ideas please tell me...i want a good car that would last a long time and would take mods good, peace.

The rsx is a better car but if your lookin for more room and a bigger trunk the se r is a better choice.

i have an idea go ask the nissan guys what they think becuse i think i speek for most DSM guys when i say keep the eclipse but that is just personal oppion

GSX!! :evillol:

You can get a decent GSX with decent miles for, what, 7000-7500? Maybe cheaper.

dsmtuners.com i think it is has a list of mods that will get you to 300 hp and 400 hp VERY easily, if you can do the tuning yourself. Cost is very low as well.

However, if you're dead set against an Eclipse, try a V6 TT like a 3000gt-Stealth, 300zx, they have a LOT of potential.

You can get a decent GSX with decent miles for, what, 7000-7500? Maybe cheaper.

dsmtuners.com i think it is has a list of mods that will get you to 300 hp and 400 hp VERY easily, if you can do the tuning yourself. Cost is very low as well.

However, if you're dead set against an Eclipse, try a V6 TT like a 3000gt-Stealth, 300zx, they have a LOT of potential.

Huh?

Really I think this post is misleading in more ways than I can count.

The only GSX that will go for the amount you quoted is maybe like a '95 with tons of miles on it or I dunno what. But a decent one like you quoted youself would probably run closer to 10G+ easy. If it was 7G's, thats what I would of bought. :D

Secondly I'm no expert, but I know hitting 400whp isn't something that is "VERY easily" (ie. easy). Also 300 and 400 is a big difference.

I won't waste more time replying to this as this was probably not a very serious reply to begin with.

Get a 300ZX TT 5speed, 91-95 model. Great cars and lots of potential.

But I would go with the RSX if i were you. Get the factory apperance package minus the wing. They look so nice with no wing at all. A black one or a white one would be the best IMO. Great cars, and quite a bit of power. Make sure you get a Type-S tho. It really does make a difference.

Happy buying

yea i really like the rsx's and the price difference between the type s and the regular isnt much difference

im tryin to find somethin that i can have through college which will be bout 6 or so years and i can keep adding mods little by little as i get the money and would last that long. i would really like to have a gst or gsx but you cant really find them without that many miles and theyre pretty expensive being used an all

The rsx is a piece-o-shit. It is way over priced and you wont be able to make high hp. The parts are expensive n everything. The only honda/acura i would ever buy is s2k.

Go with a gsx, whether or not it has high miles.

High miles has nothing to do with the car, you have to look at the condition of the car.

I looked for my car for about 4 months, you just have to keep lookin.

The 95 gsx will be about maybe you can get a deal. A 97 will sell for maby 7500, thats not even close to your 20k rsx, plus with the stuff u said you wanna do. If your in collage, how you gonna pay for all that.

Go wit gsx.

Decent miles means lower than 150, not lower than 50. I was wrong a bit, I guess. I dunno. I define things loosely. If you're looking for HP stock, for cheap, go with a SRT-4. If you want a new car.

95 GSX prone to crankwalk. Dont get one.

Go with the RSX, you CAN make gobs of power out of the K series engine. I have seen 350whp on a Type-S. They are reliable, fun to drive, look pretty nice.

But really, why do you need high hp? You cant use it on the street.


The rsx is a piece-o-shit. It is way over priced and you wont be able to make high hp. The parts are expensive n everything. The only honda/acura i would ever buy is s2k.

^ Have you ever driven an RSX Type-S, or an S2000? To tune an S2000 it would cost MUCH more than an RSX. The parts are far more expensive. Also you basicly have no room in one. So an RSX is a good comprimise of performance, and functionality. And please elaborate on what makes the RSX a "piece-of-shit".

yeah, u most be smokin something to call the RSX "A piece of shit"...there are other cars besides DSMs that are good out there. the rsx is a nice car for a reasonable price [24,000]. it can make pretty good power, but mods do tend to be on the exspensive side. An Eclipse will last u a long time, if your lucky...so your better off getting something more reliable. try a Civic maybe?

95 GSX prone to crankwalk. Dont get one.


where's 95 GSXracer?


Go with the RSX, you CAN make gobs of power out of the K series engine. I have seen 350whp on a Type-S.

Gobs man, totally.


But really, why do you need high hp? You cant use it on the street.


If you feel like it, you can.


Have you ever driven an RSX Type-S, or an S2000.To tune an S2000 it would cost MUCH more than an RSX. The parts are far more expensive. Also you basicly have no room in one. So an RSX is a good comprimise of performance, and functionality. And please elaborate on what makes the RSX a "piece-of-shit".

My girlfriend got an RSX TS for her b-day. Theres nothing special about it, its another car, way overpriced. You could just buy a honda and swap the motor. Honestly, wut is it about the RSX that makes worth the buy, nothing. You've seen 350 hp, pfff. Get a EVO. Get a supra, damn.

The s2000 is a work of art. Everything on it can literally be swapped for carbon fiber. You wont even need power mods. Yes it is expensive, but when you compare the amount you spend for the rsx to the s2000 with power to weight ratio in mind, the s2000 wins, by far.

My father owns an S2000, silver with CF hood, fenders, trunk, hardtop, coilovers, mugen intake, mugen ECU.
It is fast, and great to drive. But practical??? Hardly.

The RSX has much more space. And for someone going to collage this is a good thing. Room to shag:)

No dought about it, s2000 is an awsome car, cut the RSX is much more suited to daily driving. You can shag in the s2000, i know for a fact, but there isnt quite enough room to get cunfeeee.

well said 89turbo944. btw is that ur car that u have a pic of in the sig

thanks, and no its not my car, VERY similar. Came exact year and colour. But i just like the plate, ITSOVER coming up behind you. I just think that is something cool to see.

GSX's aren't that cheap guys. I have been looking and the cheepest 2gB's are like $14k. Even GST's in my area w/ <70k miles are around $13-14. But I would side w/ most of the people in here and say '4G63' ! :)

umm i dont know if u guys noticed but the guy who origianly posted never said he was concidering buying an eclipse. He said hes trading one in. lol

yea thats tru i want somethin that wont be ridiculous on insurance too, since the s2000 has only 2 seats and no back seat i think it would be more than the rsx, also i want somethin that i can lightly mod because since im goin to college i wont have that much money to put on my car, im just lookin for a used one with low miles, somethin that looks good and isnt slow like my eclipse,

You can get a decent 2G GSX for around 11g's. The Picture in 89Turbo944 is my car. I spent a lot of money into it and am pushing well over 500whp. But as Sevren stated you can make them fast for not too much money. A real deal would be to get a 1g GSX or TSI and do it up.

how many problems you have with yours so far?

Not many. I just spent a lot of money on modifications. Here is my mod list:

Engine

Racing Short Block Work
8 Hours of Port work
Extrude Honed
Balanced
Blueprinted
HKS Metal Head Gasket
Racing Head Work
Hot Tank
O ringed
Pressure Tested
Resurfaced
New Valve Stem Seals
Bronze Valve guides
8 Hours of Port work
Extrude Honed
J&E Forged Pistons 9.0:1 compression, .020" oversized
Eagle Forged Connecting Rods
Nitrite Coated Stainless Steel Valves 1.0mm oversized
Crower Titanium Valve Springs With Retainers
Clevite 77 rod bearings and main bearings
Buschur Racing Balance Shaft Eliminator Kit
Polished and Balanced Crankshaft
ARP Cylinder Head Studs
ARP Main Crankshaft Bolts
ARP Connecting Rod Bolts
AEM Adjustable Cam Gears
HKS Cams 272 degree intake and 272 degree exhaust cam
Fluidyne High Performance Aluminum Radiator
Flex-a-lite cooling fans
1G Throttle
GReddy stainless steel mesh upper and lower radiator hoses
GReddy Oil catch can
GReddy Oil Cooler
EVO External Oil Cooler Filter Mount
Forced Performance Vector Dampers under drive pulley
Dress Up Pulley Kit (water pump pulley, alternator pulley, and power steering pulley)
Concept Racing Race Crank Bearing Alignment kit
Concept Racing 4G63 Solid Lash Adjusters
Red powder coated valve cover with polished lettering
Custom spark plug cover with Japanese writing

Turbo

Forced Performance Red Turbo, Ported 8cm2 turbine housing, Clipped 10 degrees, and polished compressor housing Pic1, Pic2, Pic3
Tial Red Top 40mm High Pressure External Wastegate with 1.1bar spring

Intake and Exhaust

Apex'i Skyline GTR Intercooler
Custom short route intercooler piping
Tial blow off valve
1998 Camaro LS1 MAF
Aquamist 2s Water Injection System
HKS Super Mega Flow system
Magnus Sheet Metal Intake Manifold
Buschur Racing 2G Exhaust Ported Manifold
Burns stainless steal 3” down pipe Thermal wrapped
Random Technology 3” high flow catalytic converter / 3" Testpipe
GReddy 3” Power Extreme exhaust
Dejon Tool 3"inch inlet pipe
Victory Performance 02 housing with external wastegate reroute

Ignition

Magnacor 8.5mm Competition ignition cables
NGK spark plugs
MSD DIS-2

Fuel

Clinic 750cc Injectors
Supra TT Fuel pump
Red AEM Fuel Rail
SX Fuel Pressure Regulator

Electronic

GReddy PRofec B spec 2/ Hallman Boost Controler for high PSI
GReddy Remote Switching System for PRofec B
DSMlink engine management system
GReddy Turbo Timer
Jumptronix Digital Air/Fuel Ratio Meter
Aquamist DDS2

Suspension

Front and rear strut braces
Tein Flex Suspension with EDFC
RMDSM stabilizer bar set
Prothane Full Motor Mount Kit

Transmission

Level Ten Performance Transmission Kit
Level Ten Torque Convertor
Level Ten Shifttronic push button shifting
Translab Shift Kit
Flex-a-lite Transmission Cooler

Wheels

Zenetti Vegas 18x8.5 (Summer Wheels)
Michelin Pilot Sport 225/40ZR-18 91Y
Konig Tantrum 17x8 (Winter Wheels)
Michelin Pilot Sport 225/45ZR-17 91Y
Nippon Light Star 17x7.5 15lbs black rims (Racing Wheels)
BFGoodrich g-Force T/A Drag Radial 225/45/17

Brakes

Baer Front Racing Track 2 piston Calipers with slotted/cross drilled/zinc washed rotors
Baer Rear brake upgrade kit slotted/cross drilled/zinc washed rotors
Front and rear braided stainless steal brake lines
Front and rear Repco/Axxis Metal Masters brake pads

Gauges

GReedy 60mm Electronic 2 bar Boost Gauge
GReedy 60mm Electronic E.G.T. Gauge
GReedy 60mm Electronic Oil Gauge
Nitrous Express Remote Pro Nitrous Gauge
Autometer modified A/F Gauge

Seats

Sparco Torinos, all black

Miscellaneous

Nitrous Express 75 hp shot kit with remote bottle opener, blanket, purge valve, arm switch.
Nitrous Express Nitrous N-ter Cooler Chiller (This reduces the intercooler temp to sub zero temperatures increasing combustion efficiency and making more power)
GReddy Oil Cap
GReddy 1.3 bar (19 psi) Radiator Cap
Hayame Billet Aluminum Strut Tower Bar
Hayame Billet Aluminum Radiator Brackets
Hayame Billet Aluminum Power Steering Reservoir Cover
Hayame Billet Aluminum Fuse Box Cover
Sho-Me Strobe lights in headlights and tail lights
Valentine 1
BMW M3 mirrors with 7" Mercedes style blinker
Projector headlights with black housing
HID H3 lo beam kit 4100K output
HID H1 hi beam kit 4100K output
HID Fog lights
Carbon Fiber Altezza rear lights
Limo Tinted windows
Clear corner side markers
Viper Alarm with auto start and motion sensors and pager remotes
Sperco Peddles

Exterior

Carbon Fiber chin spoiler

Stereo

Alpine IVA-D900
Alpine TUA-T020XM
Terk TRK-SR2
Q-Logic Q-Form Kick Panels
2 JL AUDIO® EVOLUTION XR100-CT Component Tweeters
JL AUDIO® EVOLUTION XR650-CXi 6.5" Coaxial Speakers
JL AUDIO® EVOLUTION VR690-CXi 6X9 2-WAY SPEAKERS
JL AUDIO® EVOLUTION XR525-CSi 5-1/4 2-WAY
Custom Box consisting of:
2 Phoenix Gold 400watt ZX400Ti with built in cooling fans
1 Phoenix Gold 500watt ZX500Ti with built in cooling fans
1 Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Capacitors
2 Rockford Fosgate 1/2 Farad Capacitors
3 Kicker S10L7 Solo-Baric(tm) L7-Series


I use this car as a race/show car. It work is done properly on the car and you maintaine it well it will not give you many problems. I am waiting to see how well I can do with the DSMlink next race season. I might go ahead and install a motec standalone system next.

damn....alot of mods there dont ya think.,. i have an eclipse rs now but it has a lot of miles on it and i dont wanna take a chance of breakin down on me, i tried to look for a gst or gsx in my area and i cant find any at all,

Well another option you have is buying another rs or gs and just building that motor and getting a turbo kit if you still want to stay with an eclipse. A friend of my built up his rs and easily takes out stock bottom end eclipses with big 16g turbos. My car was the first car I owned and turned into a small obsession. Now it's a street strip sleeper besides the plates. My GSX is definitely one of the best cars I have owned. The AWD traction is awesome and is very helpful in races. I also have a 2002 M3 and my Eclipse takes it off the line and proceeds to run circles around it. FWD turbos are nice but one of the most powerful fwd dsm’s which has 611whp only runs low 11’s due to traction problems. If I were you I’d shop around and see what comes up if you are not in a rush to get a new car. Sometimes a change is nice.

yea, i was plannin on gettin it after winter, i live in wv so the winters are pretty bad, i thought bout gettin a new eclipse but i heard it was too much money to get a turbo for and i would have to replace the pistons and a bunch of other stuff.. you heard anything about the RSX's?

I don't know too much about the rsx's. I've driven one, they are light and very nice. Another car you might want to look at is a celica. Depending on how much you want to spend you an EVO,WRX, or WRX STI are too good choices. The regular WRX's tranny's aren't too strong though so when heavily modded they break.

yea i test drove a wrx, theyre fast i was thinkin bout a celica but my friend has one and ya kno cant have the same car. i heard alot of good things about a rsx plus i like the way the look

This is funny.

The rsx is about 20k, why dont you mention some real cars. EVO 8, supra, with a little more $, a R32. Those are the cars you should be lookin at. The rsx is garbage. Celica? WTF? Only if your road racing.

04 evo 8 $29,000, 97 supra $50,000, used rsx $17000. thats why....im goin to college, im only 18, and i dont wanna have a beefy ass car payment every month so i think the rsx is good for that reason

hrm....

well there are other EVO's besides the 04's. You didnt mention used EVO's price? And a 97 supra is not even close to 50k. :disappoin Try around 20-25. You can get a lower year model too.

W/e, i just realized its a bad idea to convince you. I wouldnt wanna see a supra go to waist. Go fer RSX ;) :smokin:

why there gotta be hatas? insurance is a big factor too...i kno you can find other ones than new ones, but the insurance on a evo would be ridiculous. there is supras that are 50000 and close.. look here... http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=154410704&dealer_id=1357597&car_year=1998&make=TOYOTA&distance=any&max_price=&model=SUPRA&end_year=2005&advcd_on=n&min_price=&address=29730&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1995&color=&cardist=341 http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=147814228&dealer_id=77824&car_year=1997&make=TOYOTA&distance=any&max_price=&model=SUPRA&end_year=2005&advcd_on=n&min_price=&address=29730&search_type=used&advanced=n&start_year=1995&color=&cardist=466
i dont want one with 100,000 miles on it either the cheapest evo i found was a 2003 for 28000$. money wont be a thing after college tho

hrm....

well there are other EVO's besides the 04's. You didnt mention used EVO's price? And a 97 supra is not even close to 50k. :disappoin Try around 20-25. You can get a lower year model too.

W/e, i just realized its a bad idea to convince you. I wouldnt wanna see a supra go to waist. Go fer RSX ;) :smokin:


Id watch what you say. You dont want to piss off everyone. They can help you or jsut make you life hell on here.

So far you seem to have rubed off the wrong way on people. I have had a few PM convos about you and they were not the nicest comments i have heard. I dont really have a problem with you. But I think a few others do. And if you do decide to reply to this and say that you dont care then prepare to get flamed by people.

PS Im not trying to sound mean, just letting you know:D

yea i hear you

but ah...im not poppin shit at all...thats not good if anyone taking it like that....damn....sorry all

macavelli04 those supras will not sell, unless thats the kbb price for 98's....

:redface:
SE-R: 165 Hp, standard 2.5L, SEDAN
RSX: 160 Hp, standard 2.0L, COUPE

i'd go with the RSX Type S [200 Hp :grinyes: ] FUN sporty car and u can go crazy with MODS ;)

tru, they look good too. anyone kno of any bein sold holla at ya boy

yea i thought those supras looked kinda expensive but they only have around 30000 miles and i think they are the special edition

also is that the only difference bet the type s and the rsx is the hp and the leather seats are standard?

IMO you should go w/ the rsx. I've driven one and it was really light and pretty fast. Just make sure u get a type S. good luck w/ that :bigthumb:

if u wanna go fast...supra or s2000 or go wit gsx or EVO!....dont get rsx, trust me.....trust me!!!