I think I found a cheaper alternative to my dream engine...

What do you all think?

That, or a Dart block ($10K) that you still gotta spend money on to complete?

sounds sketchy... "unmentionable speed secrets" come on.

sounds like all they are doing is stroking a B series engine, and if that the case i've heard that its not the best thing to do.

I'm a little concered as to how they are getting 2.4 liter displacement out of a B? even 2.0 is making sidewalls thin?
if they are getting 2.4 from stroking then i would say that that is downright dangerous with such a long stroke and you may have some holes in the block soon.


I dunno maybe i'm wrong, i would wait till some other responses come in.

if you do go that way let me know when the engine hits 100,000 then i'll get one also:smile:

hell you think 2.4 is big? check out their h series-2.6!

yeah but the H is different block altogether.

A B can't handle more than 2.0 as far as I know?

I bet a B block can handle 2.2 (it's probably more like 2140 cc or what ever the measurement is) - They sell tuned D series' too - now those I don't think will handle more then 2.0 because it's a thinner block isn't it because it only has a single overhead cam and wouldn't need to be as wide.

I should email them and ask them if they come with any kind of warranty.

I already emailed them and asked them how much torque they produce, But I probably won't hear back from them until at least Monday.

If you want to wait for me to hit 100,000 it's gonna be a while. I still gotta pay $1,803 to pay the rest of the balance of my car off before I even look to drop an engine in.

The thing that I like about these is the fact that it's a brand new engine with no miles on it or at least I'm pretty sure they don't have any miles on them. I'll also ask them about that when I email them again in about 5 minutes. As soon as I get some answers back, I'll post them on here.

See, they don't make the D series' bigger then 2.0 liters.

http://www.rddyno.com/prod/d_series.shtml

Don't they still gotta be sleeved?

maybe once it's sleeved, the outer walls of the block don't have to be that thick - it's just gotta be sturdy enough to keep the sleeves secure.

Apparently they do care about reliability with the K series. They only make up to 2.5 liter blocks for the K series.

http://www.rddyno.com/prod/k_series.shtml

hell you think 2.4 is big? check out their h series-2.6!
2.4 sounds big for the b-series, but 2.6 for the h is just downright impossible. something is up/really different about the block. the h-series is know for its weak sleaves because of the bigger displacement to begin with, theres no way that you could raise it to 2.6...its just not right. id LOVE to hear the explanation for this...
im with knorwj...pm me when you put 100000on the block and ill be in line, until then, go masturbate.

There's a guy on here who had Spoon stroke his 1.6 to a 2.1 but I forget who he is. About that website, it does sound a little sketchy. Call me skeptical but if I'm going to buy an engine I'd want a stock one with stock Honda specs, then work it up my way.

Ok, I finally heard back from them today - I just cut and pasted what they had to say:

Hello a long block is an engine from valve cover to oil pan does not
include intake manifold or exhaust manifold, the 2.2 b series would cost
$7800.00 outright, the torque to the wheel is 150 to 160 ftlb no you
will still be able to run your ac and power steering. Thanks for the
inquiry

last time I checked the definition of a long block was a engine without any tin work... in other words no valve cover or oil pan either.

Apparently it's becoming more and more popular to do.

http://www.hondatuningmagazine.com/tech/0401_strokerecovery/

I was the one buying a 2.1 custom spoon stroker (they didn't want to make one this big, but U.S. money in Japan speakes for itself, especially $1900+a damn $320 shipping charge). I just got it 3 days ago, but I am waiting for time to install it. I will let you guys know.