Cheap Speed?

Which do you think is the best way to get cheap speed? If you say other, explain!

I voted "There is no cheap speed" :icon16: B/c even nitrous is not cheap if you install it right and get everything you need to run big shots. :2cents:

Read my sig

Rules of the game fast,good, cheap pick any 2 :2cents:
fast + good = not cheap :ylsuper:
fast +cheap = not good :cya:
good + cheap = not fast :twak:


HAHA I like that :bigthumb: That is true IMO.

DIY is awesome.

freebie mods will release some power on a stock car. re routing coolant lines, taking the stock resonator off, boreing your intake manifold and TB with a dremel...lol. you could even make your own cai.

http://www.teamsr.org/ForumLinkedImages/Random/rs_cai/rs_cai_diy.htm

Well i failed to say what i think....personally im a fan of weight reduction....when i get my rex the first thing to go is all of that sound absorbant shit and the carpets heh heh.

I'll give you guys a formula for this
rpm's+horsepower+E.T.A.=dollars squared

I said DIY, budget boost, best bang for your buck you'll get.

There is no Cheap Speed... at least not for very long before stuff starts to go awry. Car Guy has it right in his sig.

DoubleTap

cheap power=cheap parts=motor go boom (talking about acutal mod's...not jus DIY intake etc...)

Cheap speed doesnt always mean cheap power....

weight reduction is good, and cheap, but will only do so much.

good tires to help you hook up is also good.

after that its all gonna cost ya...

Cheap speed....??....Hookupz from a dealer :)

weight reduction will help u out a lil bit. and the only cheap speed ive seen was done in Honda Tuning on there Budget CRX.

I voted other.
Steal shit.

edit: About the coolant lines, can somebody explain how that would free up some ponies, and conjure up a little how-to for me? And oh yeah, I was kidding about stealing.

I voted other.
Steal shit.

edit: About the coolant lines, can somebody explain how that would free up some ponies, and conjure up a little how-to for me? And oh yeah, I was kidding about stealing.

I think they are talking about blocking off the coolant that goes into the throttle body. It might free up 1 hp or so but your car will not idle right either, b/c the Fast Idle Thermovalve will have no warm/hot coolant running through it. :2cents:

wow sounds worth it to me..

lol yes oh yes oh so worth it...

IMO, weight reduction is one of the few "cheap" mods that's worth any effort. Depending on the extent to which you reduce the weight of your car, however, you can sacrfice a considerable amount of comfort, i.e. increased vibration and rattling (particularly in older cars), wind-noise, lack of a good sound system, interior aesthetics, etc. It all depends on how much comfort and practicallity you're willing to sacrifice for the sake of speed.

...interior aesthetics...

personally i like the look of painted frame metal...but when you dont paint it, it tends to look like shit true

I think they are talking about blocking off the coolant that goes into the throttle body. It might free up 1 hp or so but your car will not idle right either, b/c the Fast Idle Thermovalve will have no warm/hot coolant running through it. :2cents:

well, the thing is, that the coolant is hot as shit. pumping it through the throttle body heats up the TB, and makes the air coming into the intake manifold hot, which is bad. rerouting it away from the throttle body makes everything cooler. here is a little picture that might help you understand

http://ologynet.net/services/UMS/data/media/31/TBDiagramFig1.jpg

just make each of those hoses pull a u-turn and your done.

just dont do it if you live in northern states, as your TB can freeze open and you wont be able to deccelerate.

whtteg, i dont know if all cars have that valve you were talking about, but i did it on my car with no downsides at all. could you explain how the valve works please?

DIY is always good if done properly and you have more time than money.

IMO you get the most for your money in finding good deals. Just start saving and wait for good deals to come by on the part you want.


Cheap engine swaps is another way to go. You would be suprized what individuals (not salvage yards) will let totaled cars go for, this is the best way to do an engine swap (if the engine wasnt damaged in the wreck) because you get almost everything you need for the swap, if not all. I almost got my hands on a b16a this way for $200+towing on a rear end colision wrecked car. These deals are hard to find but they do exist.

I vote weight reduction! I have seen a stock 89 civic DX sedan beat a turbo teggy. It had only the motor, a seat,and some body peices. The int was completely taken out, inc dash. The glass was taken out. the trunk, lights, bumpers, ect was gone. The guy w/ the teggy was embarrassed as shit.

I vote weight reduction! I have seen a stock 89 civic DX sedan beat a turbo teggy. It had only the motor, a seat,and some body peices. The int was completely taken out, inc dash. The glass was taken out. the trunk, lights, bumpers, ect was gone. The guy w/ the teggy was embarrassed as shit.

Im tempted to call bs-cause i sure as hell wouldnt want to be the one driving the dx with no windshield at the speeds it would take to beat a turbo teg

ya know them crazy niggas. I am happy it wasn't me. it wouldn't be hole lot more wind than a damn croch rocket, put it in that perspective too.

People generally wear helmets when on sportsbikes....not when driving a supposed windowless dx

I thinks its a grandma driving that DX....At that speeds a granny will look like a sexy 16 year old with all that wrinkles gone....LOL

People people....what they will do to look young....
;)

j/k

Ok so I am going to run my mouth once again. Why yank the interior out of a good car? If you want a race car start with a race car. If you want to lose comfort thats your deal, but I've already removed the god awful fart pipe off of my accord and think that extra 1 hp isn't worth the head ache I had after driving it for 30 min. Plus stereos are a nice thing to have unless you think your ragged out car presents a better image than a clean car. Now if you ask me 100lbs of interior is worth keeping. Where are you supposed to put the chicks that want to ride w/ you if you have no seats? I mean can anyone tell me why ricers put rear spoilers on front wheel drive cars? Does the 18' tall wing creat drag? Lift? Neg lift to take traction off your power wheels? Add weight?
Cheap speed : a toy 87-93 mustang. 5 grand for a 12 second car. Gears, Slicks, Bottle
One more question WTF is this on lets get technical?

easy get huge ass knife car jack dude in lambo.... I think best it would be cutting weight for free even though i don't like ripping crap out eg a/c radio. rather spend some $$ and get a sexy C/F hood. I do think to go fast you gotta spend though but how much depends on how much you know like 700 or less for turbo kit DIY.

"its n20 gwad damnit"

N-Twenty huh?

One more question WTF is this on lets get technical?

Well where the hell else is it gonna go dipshit?

If your looking for a speed at the lowest price and you dont care about comfort (ie weight reduction),go get yourself a beet up bike and go.

Im more impressed by the fast car that looks good than the sripped car that can pull half decent times.

How about general. How the f#@$ is this technical? Name one technical aspect of your question? Should I rape my car to make it faster does not count. Once again there are more people who talk on here than there are who do on here.

I think all these dumb a$$ racing questions should go in a new section. TITLE: Dumb ass racing questions or what not to do to your car.

It will be funny when you get spanked by a car that looks good, rides nice, and can actually get chicks when you have thrashed yours and still get spanked.

GENERAL OPINION is what your first post pertains to. It has nothing to do with lets get technical. If you have a problem with that come find me and I'll show you a thing or two.

I have no problem with this being in the "Lets Get Technical" forum. I suggest that if you don't like it then don't contribute. Have you thought that he might be finding out what route to take in modifying his car? He is probably finding out what the more knowledgeable people have to say and suggest so that he takes the best path for his needs. I think some people are just waiting around to start flame wars, it is not needed, he did nothing to deserve a flaming. You will not get far here by acting like that nor will you get a lot of help from more veteran people like myself if you have a problem. :2cents:

I have posted several pertinet questions on here that have recieved no replies. If I had to make a guess, half the people on the lets get technical section do very little work on their own cars. I said half that way I am not slamming the people who do know a lot more than me.

Even product reviews could not be answered with any technical back ground when I posted about clutch and flywheel quality and best application for the street. I did search a found a bunch of junk, but no one had said this is what I have and this is what I liked/ dislike best about it. It's quality looked good and clean or crappy and why the hell did I spend the money on this...

As for this post: We all know less weight equals a faster car...at least highschool physics told us that...so why was the question posted?

I gave my opinion and got slammed i.e. calling an ME a dipshit. I said leave the car looking good and not rip out the interior ect. That is the most retarded thing you could do to a street car to drop weight is strip the interior. What is the car for...? That isn't modifying the car that is raping it. That was my point. There comes a time you have to put the magazine down, block out all the would doers, should doers, could doers, and pick up the wrench. The wrestling coach used to say. It's either time to s#$% or get off the pot. i.e. quit dancing with the guy and slam his a##.

I agree with you on the weight reduction. As you can see in my sig when I go to the track I run full interior. I was just saying that the " why is this in this forum" remark was uncalled for IMO. As for the clutch topic I have first hand experience with Paeco flywheels and clutchmasters clutches, and Clutchnet clutches. Paeco flywheels are complete crap!!! I installed one on my friend's 300z and it warped, cracked and destroyed the rear main bearing. I have also installed a clutchmasters stage 3 clutch in a friend’s GSR and we broke it in and everything and it slowly started to give out. After approximately 6K miles it was finally time to yank it out. We opted to go with a Clutchnet clutch kit and it has been in the car for close to 2 yrs now and still grips just as hard as it did when it was new. I think the reason behind the clutchmasters clutch giving out was due to the pressure plate not having enough clamping force due to them tring to keep the pedal feel close to stock. If you are going to get a clutch and flywheel combo get a chrome-moly flywheel and either a ACT or Clutchnet clutch. :2cents:

Also did you look at this thread? It has some helpful info about flywheels http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=181256 Not as indepth as I think you mught have been looking for but all you had to do was ask in that thread and it would have been answered.

Which do you think is the best way to get cheap speed?

go down to the corner and look for the shifty eyed fellow... tell him jerome sent you!

go down to the corner and look for the shifty eyed fellow... tell him jerome sent you!
HAH HAH oh shit man! craziness! :rofl:

All right bbyzfr6, im not going to flame you, so hear me out:

I've purchased a 93 honda vx hatch, its not the best, but itll do. I'm in damn highschool with a highschool job with highschool expenses. I'm not a damn riceboy and quite frankly i prefer fast over clean. Sure you can make a full interior, full stereo car fast, but then comes the money aspect...something i dont have a lot of! I'm not some spoiled rich kid-one of my parents is an accountant and the other is a teacher, and i dont plan on moochin off of em for my cars benifit! Every mod either comes out of my pathetic 8 bucks an hour or has to come cheaply: Hence the thread! Oh yeah, I' m workin with a 20 year old torque wrench and a 30 piece rachet set with some misc. tools here and there, so i cant go and make many mods myself, but ive wrenched everythign i can (axles and brakes replaced, oil change and engine tuning, sewing upi the damn tears in my seats).

Oh yeah, technically a car is made to get you from one point to another-comfort and style was never a prerequisite for one!

First off get rid of the lame ass pic you have playing with your girlfriend. Secound you askd about cheap speed? MAke a home kit air filter, Lightin up the insides, Minus the ac, ps, and other shit, Let the air out of the from tires a lot, run 92 octane with octane boost, check all wires and tighten up all bolts, take of cat, tightin up everything under car, use synthetic oil, lean the car out and there you have it. A 17 secound car that you think is fast and gramama pass's yo ass, you'll wish you got rid of the pic on the internet and had a slow good sounding car with a nice radio in it so your real girl friend, (not that gay ass dog) could rub your belly...
lol
jeff

HAH HAH oh shit man! craziness! :rofl:

All right bbyzfr6, im not going to flame you, so hear me out:

I've purchased a 93 honda vx hatch, its not the best, but itll do. I'm in damn highschool with a highschool job with highschool expenses. I'm not a damn riceboy and quite frankly i prefer fast over clean. Sure you can make a full interior, full stereo car fast, but then comes the money aspect...something i dont have a lot of! I'm not some spoiled rich kid-one of my parents is an accountant and the other is a teacher, and i dont plan on moochin off of em for my cars benifit! Every mod either comes out of my pathetic 8 bucks an hour or has to come cheaply: Hence the thread! Oh yeah, I' m workin with a 20 year old torque wrench and a 30 piece rachet set with some misc. tools here and there, so i cant go and make many mods myself, but ive wrenched everythign i can (axles and brakes replaced, oil change and engine tuning, sewing upi the damn tears in my seats).

Oh yeah, technically a car is made to get you from one point to another-comfort and style was never a prerequisite for one!

I wont bother going off on details ( dont have timre right now ) but there are some free mods you can do to your car that will give a little more punch. If you want to reduce weight, knock your self out but I wouldnt suggest it. You can make a home made air intake pritty cheap too but if you really want to get some juice you got to put some $$ into it. Here's another idea; punch a hole in your muffler that way it will sound like you got juice.

xplhavoc, yes his picture looks really gay but what the f$%$ do you care, you looking for a date or something. Stop flamming the guy. Yes this question belongs is general and yes stripping your car is stupid and yes that picture is gay, but.... forgot where I was going with that.

Post a technical question or move.

dang people. I think its a fairly valid question in a section that it is somewhat related too . I'll read the whole thread later, but I dont see why people are getting all mad over it.

dang people. I think its a fairly valid question in a section that it is somewhat related too . I'll read the whole thread later, but I dont see why people are getting all mad over it.

Yea I agree but unfortunately it is going to turn into a flame fest and will be locked and will slowly work its way to the archives. It is so sad that some people have to get on here and act like 12 year olds. :rolleyes:

boo hoo youre makin me cry

http://www.angelfire.com/nc3/punkalexspics/cry.jpg


Anyways, First off let me say i could care less what you guys think about me...I mean after all youre all just a bunch of guys who sit behind computers and take out your daily frustrations on people you dont know. Yes i have a dog, yes her name is daisy, and yes i get down to her level to play with her. If you honestly believe that I am gay and that is my girlfriend, then so be it, you are entitled to your opinion, be it an ignorant or whatnot. Plus its prettier than a pic of my vx (which i have to sell....too much frame damage). And honestly, do you think that im the kind of person who would care what a handful of computer geeks thinks? Flame all you want, i will pretend not to see them.

EDIT: oh yeah mods, please dont close the thread, i would like to hear more honest posts about the subject!

Yea I agree but unfortunately it is going to turn into a flame fest and will be locked and will slowly work its way to the archives. It is so sad that some people have to get on here and act like 12 year olds. :rolleyes:

dang people. I think its a fairly valid question in a section that it is somewhat related too . I'll read the whole thread later, but I dont see why people are getting all mad over it.

I hope you know that these are defending you? And I aslo hope that your last post was not directed at us. Because we are siding with you:sly:

I hope you know that these are defending you? And I aslo hope that your last post was not directed at us. Because we are siding with you:sly:

NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!! hah hah i was directing my comments towards those who said the pic was gay/i was gay/my car was slow (hmmm....not for long! cause im not going to have the car for long!)

wait till i get my rex...but yeah I'm not talking about you guys!!! whered you get that idea??

Ahh I dunno just was not sure. ;)

NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!! hah hah i was directing my comments towards those who said the pic was gay/i was gay/my car was slow (hmmm....not for long! cause im not going to have the car for long!)

wait till i get my rex...but yeah I'm not talking about you guys!!! whered you get that idea??

Also, some of these people that are new, dont know how to act(noobs...I guess). Advice from more senior guys is worth all theirs' put together, so when someone like WHTTEG says it's in the right forum(or atleast not the wrong forum), then you're cool.

Cheap speed what you wanta do is talk to this dude ricky down on 5th......
ooo cars umm well i don't know then.

Hey PunkAlex, I'm sorry if my response came off as a flame, I'm just a real sarcastic person, (so everyone tells me). If you are gay or not, its none of my buisness and I shouldnt have said anything. However, In my opinion stripping a car is not technical, unless your asking how to strip it. Anyhow, you should have a look at those free mods.

HAH HAH no im not gay just for future referenece

and thanks for the imput!

i'll have to make this fast (my next class is about to start -phil 1054 lol) but as for cheep speed well, there really is not an ans for that but here are some things that i know from exp. will work (done on a 90 DX hatch civic) homemade intake, gutted catalitic, port the intake mani with a damn drill or whatever you have (be carefull..), and take the rear seats out along with all of the molding/carpet in the back and in the trunk. that wont give you any more than like 6-14 or so HP but it is free. --if you dont give a flying **** about your interior hehe. -i wanna buy a 240sx coupe to strip and have some fun w/ ...

I was letting my mind wander in biology today (i dont give a fuck about chromatin!) and i realized something:

When i talk about stripping the interior, im talking about in a junker like im gonna have (crx soon). More than likely the seats will be torn, the carpet soiled, and the plastic moldy and broken. So stripping it would actually be an improvement. Now in say a 99 civic, stripping perfectly good interior is different! I now see where you guys are coming from when you say stripping a car is stupid, but still, im driving a junker, so why does it matter?

I agree: if your car is already a piece of crap, stripping it might actually be an aesthetic and a functional improvement. Do you have a car now, or would the crx be your daily driver?

I did have a 5th gen vx hatch which i got for butt cheap, but for a reason...it had some insane frame damage....warped, stretched, and anythign else that can happen to the frame was there. Now im getting either a 2nd gen crx or 4th gen hatch. Either way its gonna be my daily driver (5 miles to school...what fun). So even if its uncomfortable, i wouldnt mind too much.

I personally wouldn't strip out my car unless I had a secondary daily driver that was a little more practical. How often are you going to want to ride around in a noisy, vibration-prone, uncomfortable hunk of bare sheetmetal, however fast it may be? The choice is yours, of course, but that's just my :2cents: .

I think stripping the interior out of a 17 second car is silly. It just makes you look like a wanna-be. I say do a motor swap and skip the show-tubes and fart-pipe. If you want to make a 4cyl car fast you either need to buy one with a really high tech motor, swap a high tech motor or install a turbo. None of which is cheap or easy. It also depends on how much you drive. If fuel economy is not a major concern then buying a car with a V6 or V8 is cheaper speed than souping up a 4.

Thread age, chief.

I think stripping the interior out of a 17 second car is silly. It just makes you look like a wanna-be. I say do a motor swap and skip the show-tubes and fart-pipe. If you want to make a 4cyl car fast you either need to buy one with a really high tech motor, swap a high tech motor or install a turbo. None of which is cheap or easy. It also depends on how much you drive. If fuel economy is not a major concern then buying a car with a V6 or V8 is cheaper speed than souping up a 4.

V6 cheaper speed than 4? like what, a ford taurus? :lol: Its not as expensive as your somewhat bias opinion seems to present. Its just a matter of self fabrication and junkyard luck.

V6 cheaper speed than 4? like what, a ford taurus? :lol: Its not as expensive as your somewhat bias opinion seems to present. Its just a matter of self fabrication and junkyard luck.

Probably not a Ford Taurus, but surely a Pontiac Grand Am/Prix, Nissian Maxima, or a slew of other sporty sedans would beat most stock 4cyls. And many of them depreciate pretty quickly so older ones are pretty affordable.

maxima? bah i dont want one unless its got a b20....

But yeah affordable to who? someone working part/full time or somethign. but to me 2 grand is expensive and an 800 buck CRX sure sounds nice to me.