VR-4

This is the AWD model, right? What kind of engine does it have?

ALL 3000GTs are 4wd, and they all have the same engine. VR-4 has 3.0-liter TT which produces 320hp, just like the other 3000GTs,... actually if i think about it, I don't really know the difference between the normal 3000GT and VR4. :o
anybody know? By the way, I think VR4 is heavier, so it might have more technology or something.

V6 in both
here it is in the SL, non turbo'd with 222 hp.
http://www.ulen.com/3000gt/gt10.JPG
And in the VR-4 with the TT and 320 hp
http://www.edmunds.com/edweb/brauer/photos/99Mitsubishi.3000GT.6.jpg

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"Ferrari isn't a car, it's a lifestyle"
-Enzo Ferrari.

nice engine ;)
i wish i had a GTO .
it's called Mitsubishi GTO in Japan, and the non VR-4 versions also can have turbo. i think.

UMMMMMM U guys are way off. NO offense but I own a 3000gt. If u guys really want info check out www.3si.org

Here are the differences between a VR4 and a regular 3000gt

1)twin turbos(obviously) VR4's have twin turbos where as regular 3000gts have eather a NA DOHC or a NA SOHC.

2)Non-VR4 3000gts do not have turbos, but it is possible to do it. It is a procedure that many of the NA guys are puresueing, it is almost a bolt on procedure on a NA DOHC car.

3)vr4's have AWD. AWS(all wheel steering) and an active exhuast the can be changed from sport to tour. The NA 3000gts are front wheel drive.

4)There is a weight difference between them. This is mainly caused by the AWD system and AWS.

I hope this helped these are just the main difference there are many more smaller ones such as the engine's compression ratio and otehr goodies :-)

Edited by: igor@af

Thanks for clearing stuff out!
but I clearly remember that in japan, there are GTO's that are not VR-4 but were TTs :)

Ya, u are probably right about the GTO's but they were never imported into the U.S so no one really knows alot about them. I have never even seen one. :-) It would be cool to own though.

3000GT is the same car as GTO. It's just that GTO only has 280hp with TT because of the gentleman agreement. 3000GT has 320.
Maybe there are different specs as in 3000GT can't have TT but VR-4 does have turbos, but GTO can have TT no matter what class it is.

A vr4 is a 3000gt w/ TT. Just as a Dodge Stealth RT/TT is a 3000gt vr4. The GTO was the early japanese version of the 3000gt(I may be wrong LOL)I understand it is the same car, but the GTO was never imported into the U.S(as far as I know :-)But, a VR4 is a 3000gt, it just has TT and soem other stuff.

to help this forum get on the right track
here's your answer to what's available in japan
http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/docs8/productss/gto99/lineup.html

GTO Twin Turbo(AWD, AWS, ECS, TT)
GTO Twin TurboMR(AWD, TT, sports suspension)
GTO SR(AWD, NA)

in the U.S.
we have the VR-4/Stealth RT-TT(which have the same as the regular GTO Twin Turbo)
and the base model and SL.
91-93 VR-4's had 300hp(9psi)
94+ VR-4's had 320hp(11psi)

depending which years you get the base model will have the identical amount of HP as the SL, which is 222hp. and other years... you will get stuck with 160hp.

pacman,
you da man!
thanx
:)

Yo Pac, whats up? This is Mike Hoffa from 3si.org. This place is pretty cool..Im helping out with the Dodge and Mitsu, and Coffee Break and Cars in General...I wonder if much flame wars will break out after a while?

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Mike
1991 Black Dodge Stealth R/T TT

Thank U pac, That is what I was trying to say, but just couldnt get the figures and model straight. I'm from 3si.org too mike, I was just checkin this out. Not enought members here to start any flamage yet lol..actually this place is pretty cool.

thanks for the compliments guys!
just keep coming here and it will get huge in no time!
please support the forums. Just visit AF from time to time and post some messages. :)

Pretty cool site Igor. Nice layout and a whole shitload of cars to choose from. Not bad. Pac, good to see that Gran Turismo came in handy for something. J/K bro.

Later,
--Steve

I just noticed something. The post counter keeps track of how many posts the user has made. The only difference between this site and 3Si is that this site shows the amount of posts at the time of that particular post. 3Si just shows the total number of posts. Mad coolness.

Later,
--Steve

welcome Steve!
thanx for the compliments.
About this board, it's really terrible.
Read this post as to what we're gonna do about it.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/cgi-bin/af/discussion.cgi?forum=269&discussion=5

Edited by: igor@af

hey guys... yeah... this board is pretty nice... but the only problem i can see is that there are just TOO many forums options. :)

Is this place new or something?

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96 VR4

oh hell yeah!
It opened on Nov 27, THIS year. It's less than a month old. I think it's around 25 days old. Welcome!

Hello fellow 3/S peeps!
I'm just checkin in.

Rich

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Stealth Twin Turbo
12.3@113 Stock Turbo's....OLD MODS

I'm checking it out, too. This place is cool, but I'll have t say there are too many automotive options to choose from. It takes too long to get to where I want to go.

the forum will be a lot faster in the close future, so hang tight for now.
We will switch to UBB or vBulletin very soon... hopefully before we get into the 21st century. :D
Then it will be lightining fast and a lot more appealing.
BTW, welcome VR4luv!

You know what, Igor, I was thinking about your current site colors and the reason they don't work so well is because they're all cool colors. In order to have an exciting/visually pleasing site you need more contrast. That's why some had suggested black because it's a neutral color. If you're going to use blues, try using some burnt oranges or reds and blacks. Yellow usually goes well with black. I'm an artist, so it's just my 2 cents....

can i have a nickel with that?? :D
i want to hear more.
thanx

what kind of artist are you?

I'm a fine artist. I paint many subjects, check it out: www.ellensart.com. I did a paint job on my jetski once. I sold it this past summer, though. I suppose I could paint on cars.... I've been doing more murals lately.

so you're an oil painter :)
i ckecked it out. beautiful. how long does it usually take you to paint a piece? as an average?

by the way, the image doesn't come up at these URLs :
http://www.ellensart.com./peach.htm
http://www.ellensart.com./pear.htm

Edited by: porsche911

Most of my paintings I can paint in a day. Others take weeks. I'm not sure what happened to those images. I have'nt been able to access my site because my other computer died, so I bought a new one. I loaded teh website program on the new one, but have to start building the site from scratch again(FrontPage doesn't let you copy website to ZIP or anything else.) Thanks for the info, though.

hey... NO...NO..
YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO BUILD YOUR SITE FROM SCRATCH AGAIN. don't worry.
I'll help you.
It's very easy.
Do you have AIM or ICQ?
It will be easier if we can talk through this than to post it here since you might have questions and all that. :D
my AIM username is "tennisboy3453"
and ICQ # is 83417350
contact me.

I worked for five hours trying to cut and paste pages from my site to FrontPage and I tried to open a file from ZIP and my computer crashed.... Needless to say I'm not happy:( I tried to download the site into FP and when it was through, it had only downloaded images, which I couldn't do anything with because there were no pages (except Home page). FP sucks.... By the way, my AIM is artsycurves.

Edited by: VR4Luv

Hey, try to get on AIM right now and we'll talk :D

Sorry to get everyone off the board topic;)

Hey, thanks, Igor for trying to help me. My computer is just wierd... I did, however, find what I had been working on last night. FP was hiding it from me for some reason, and I had done a search for it on my computer, to no avail. I guess WindowsME isn't so great afterall:( Let me know if you need more info on artsy stuff...

so, you found all the files?

I've got most of them. I still have work to do, like creating more pages that are missing... Oh, well. Where did everyone else go?? I think the art topic has thrown everyone off...

The thread that started it all eh? they all seem confused...no need to tell me yogs I know.

If you know, then please don't

:nono: