GReddy Turbo Kit

I've been working on a new project GS-R for a while, and am ready for the turbo. After doing some research, I found that the GReddy Turbo kit w/ intercooler on a GS-R with no mods puts 255.6 hp to the wheels. I was wondering if anybody here has seen a dyno sheet for a turbo that puts more power to the ground than that. Also, one more requirement, it MUST be street-legal. Thanks.

Ben

P.S. My GS-R now has some pretty good mods. Some that will stay after the turbo are a GReddy Cat-Back exhaust system, AEM Cam Gears, and some Unorthodox Racing Pulleys.

Do they have emissions in Texas? I thought they didn't? Why not get a Drag kit...I know a couple of Texas guys from a different board that have great numbers with drag and revhard kits...2 for instance:gsr with rev hard kit and 8 lbs with 277 to the wheels...the other, civic with ls motor, drag3 kit, 266to the wheels with 8lbs also...I'll get you their emails later....

Unfortunately, they do still have emissions laws down here. They will probably keep those laws for a while, especially since Houston (where I live) is the smoggiest city in the world. Anyway, thanks for the info with the Drag kit and everything else. Oh yeah, are you sure on the hp to the wheels, cause alot of people advertise hp to the flywheel, which I don't care about. Power is no good unless it makes it to the wheels, but I'm sure you already knew that. *big breath* Thanks again.

Ben

I'm 100% sure...TO THE WHEELS

Sweet, thanks a bunch.

Ben

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car: hb with ls
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Just e-mailed them...

Ben

Ok, I got your email and decided to reply here for others to share with.
First of all let me tell you what I had when I first dynoed, and what I did after a certain upgrade that helped my numbers some.

My set up was as follows:
-Rev-Hard Turbo kit stage 2
-Apex N1 60mm exhaust
-Greddy Profec A EBC
-Tial Wastegate
-Custom compressor air filter.
--Water cooled bearing housing
-Bosch inline pump
-Vortech 12:1 FMU
-Greddy boost and EGT gauges
Timing at 13.5
On this set up I dynoed at 266whp and 190ft/lbs @ 7.325psi

Then I upgraded to my own custom 3" downpipe and thermal exhaust. I keep everything the same and dynoed at 277whp and 200ft/lbs at the same boost level. Now, this was also done on a 104 summer day in Texas and you know how hot it can get here. Dynojet has a correction factor, but it cannot correct for temp and its effect on the intercooler. I expect to get more and I will be dyno'ing soon because the weahter is soo nice.

Also, this was done on all stock compents. I will be purchasing Hondata very soon and I my goal is 300 whp and thatst it. Im stopping right there. I invite you to the board Im a moderator on www.honda-tech.com and feel free to email me anytime...
http://www.turbomafia.com/Arturbo/40.jpg
Feel free to look at all the pics that I have, just change the #40 in the link above to 1, 2, and so on. I think there are about 45 pics.

art

Thanks a bunch.

Ben

Originally posted by thequickest GS-R
Unfortunately, they do still have emissions laws down here. They will probably keep those laws for a while, especially since Houston (where I live) is the smoggiest city in the world. Anyway, thanks for the info with the Drag kit and everything else. Oh yeah, are you sure on the hp to the wheels, cause alot of people advertise hp to the flywheel, which I don't care about. Power is no good unless it makes it to the wheels, but I'm sure you already knew that. *big breath* Thanks again.

Ben


:bandit: Well correct me if I am wrong but I beleave that the Drag 3 is a Ball bearing turbo which means spooling up faster and it will last longer then the Greddy.

I didn't even think about that. Looks like I'll have to do some more research.

Ben

Mind you they do cost about a grand more so if you are looking for a good price then I would go with the greddy because they are cheap.

Originally posted by Frostbyte



:bandit: Well correct me if I am wrong but I beleave that the Drag 3 is a Ball bearing turbo which means spooling up faster and it will last longer then the Greddy.

The drag kit can be uprgraded to a ball bearing turbo for an extra fee. I would personally go revhard or drag.:)

I'll probably stick with a Drag kit, then upgrade it to a ball bearing turbo. I've always stuck with quality parts, and I don't plan on stopping now.

Ben

How about an Fmax turbo, I was looking at their site and it looks like a very compleat kit. any comments?

Blair

why not go custom? choose the parts you want and save money. you just gotta find out how to put them together which is the sucky part unless you know how

Originally posted by Frostbyte
Mind you they do cost about a grand more so if you are looking for a good price then I would go with the greddy because they are cheap.

FOr the DOHC kits, they cost about the same...the IC kit that's needed for the greddy kit will be around 1000 bucks(don't quote me on that price). The drag or Revhard kits come with everything for serious and mild boosting.

THe f-max is a good system, but I would rather have a RRR than the mf2 setup....plus their downpipes are like toothpicks.

Do you have a link do a dyno-sheet for the f-max system?

Ben

Check out:

http://www.f-max.com/hondacuraturbosystems.htm

I think I've made my decision. I'm going to go with the Rev Hard Stage II kit w/ IC. Thanks for your opinions.

Ben

Are these all Street Legal with the proper paperwork to back them up when you get pulled over by a cop?

Yes they do come with everything that you need to prove that they are street legal. If they don't then you can request it from Greddy.

I know greddy has the 50 state legal EMISSION excempt sticker when you buy it but i was wondering about dRAg, f-max, and the rev hard kits... i've asked others about it and they don't know.

Originally posted by RiceRocket
I know greddy has the 50 state legal EMISSION excempt sticker when you buy it but i was wondering about dRAg, f-max, and the rev hard kits... i've asked others about it and they don't know.

i heard fmax isn't street legal yet but they're trying to make it. i dunno about the rest... o yeah and how much is the greddy boosting at to get 255hp to the wheels???

i think greddy will be pushing their standard boost (6 or 8 psi) and you just need to get the large intercooler to get up 260+HP At the wheels which is not bad at all.

one cool advantage of getting greddy kit is that it comes with some neat standard parts like the fuel management system that's not included in other kits... what sux is that you don't get the intercooler.

The standard boost for the 15G is 5psi, but can easily be raised to a safe 8-9psi (same as the FMAX stock). I'm running 8psi right now WITHOUT the intercooler or the "black box" supplied with my kit. Due to the fact I have a 99 Civic EX, the kit for the 92-95 didn't match up on the electronic FMU, so I bought the Vortech 8:1 FMU and it works great. Never ran lean once with 5psi and haven't with 8 (stock injectors, regulator, and fuel pump).
The biggest difference between all these kits is the size of the turbo itself. The 15G is smaller than the FMAX or Rev Hard, but spools up considerably faster. The downside is that you lose the chance to produce unreal boost at higher RPM's, whereas the FMAX and Rev Hard prosper at high RPM's.
But, then again, you have to prep your engine for that kind of stress. I'm not going to be drag racing my car, so I went with the Greddy kit and saved mass amounts of cash.
If you compare the normal asking price for the 15G (around $1500) to the FMAX ($3500 w/intercooler), you could buy the 15G, an exhaust kit, an intercooler, and electronic FMU and have it installed, gauges and pod, BOV, and have enough left over to put some stereo stuff in your ride. How about that?
But ifyou want mass boost, go with the FMAX (most complete kit).

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