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Dyno on my 6spd!


ArideII
01-16-2004, 12:19 PM
Well, here is the good the bad and the ugly...

I used a third gear rolling test three times. I chose 3rd gear because that is what Injen used to dyno my intake. This way I could get an idea of how much power my cat-back gave.

I dynoed in 3rd @ 216Whp and 194trq. I ran one dyno in 4th and it came up with 212Whp. I was a little disapointed in the 4th gear test. Either way Injen baselined the car in the 3rd gear roll at 193Whp so if I look at it like that I have gained 23Whp with my intake and exhaust.

I also had them check if I was running rich or lean with my new mods. It turns out I am running at a 12.2:1. They told me to get a v-afc controller, configure it to run at 13.1 and I could get another 4-6hp out of it. I can even turn v-tec on earlier, ehich I am considering turning it on about 400 RPM's earlier... comments???

I'll keep you guys posted and eventually get the dyno uploaded to the web.

What do you guys think, are they throwin' BS at me about the v-afc???

HONDA_99
01-16-2004, 01:23 PM
i think you will find this information very helpfull -> http://www.v6performance.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16091&perpage=20&highlight=vafc&pagenumber=1

ArideII
01-16-2004, 02:09 PM
Honda_99 what is your personal opinion on the v-afc? One guy in there said they were worthless, while everyone else praised them. I was running 89 Octane on the dyno if it really matters ( $1.69 a gallon, I'm too cheap to pay another 10cents :) ).

I'm going to get the v-afc unless you guys don't think I should.

XixGenuinexiX
01-16-2004, 02:54 PM
i wouldn't advise you messing with the vtec engagement point. Honda at that specific point for a reason, don't you think honda would of made it sooner if it was for the better?

ArideII
01-16-2004, 03:26 PM
I agree that Honda put it there for a reason. After doing some reading, if I choose to change it I will make it engage at 4700 RPM's. Apparently this is where Honda is engaging it in the new TL's. This would only change the engagement by 300 RPM's. SUpposedly it will bog the engine if you change it to much.

HONDA_99
01-16-2004, 07:27 PM
Honda sets VTEC engagement at perfect point for setup that come out factory but when people start to install exhausts, intakes, camshaft and forced induction stuff that point is no longer there, so that is where VAFC come into play.
I personally think if VAFC professionally tunned you’ll be fine.

I need to install VAFC on my car, because fuel mixture is no longer correct after install J32A2 camshafts and move VTEC engagement point closer to CL-S have.

HONDA_99
01-16-2004, 07:31 PM
as far of gas octain, i think 89 is waste of money. its half way between 87 & 91, but price is closer to 91 octain, at least in my area.

KrNxRaCer00
01-17-2004, 09:30 PM
moved to street/track :smile:

Spectre927
01-17-2004, 09:40 PM
What if you went Hondata instead and had that tuned. I think itd be better personally

Spectre927
01-17-2004, 09:42 PM
moved to street/track :smile:

Is this a racing story???? :disappoin huh? is it?


j/k. :icon16:

KrNxRaCer00
01-17-2004, 09:51 PM
Is this a racing story???? :disappoin huh? is it?


j/k. :icon16:

i think of it somewhat as a track. u can dyno ur car at the track sometimes and i felt that he would get more responses/feed-back here than the V6 accords section. (no offense, simply more ppl go through here.)

sigh...another week ban for spectre927.... :biggrin:

Spectre927
01-17-2004, 09:56 PM
i think of it somewhat as a track. u can dyno ur car at the track sometimes and i felt that he would get more responses/feed-back here than the V6 accords section. (no offense, simply more ppl go through here.)

sigh...another week ban for spectre927.... :biggrin:

lol...Good call. :icon16:

hot_red_z28
01-17-2004, 10:30 PM
Well, here is the good the bad and the ugly...

I used a third gear rolling test three times. I chose 3rd gear because that is what Injen used to dyno my intake. This way I could get an idea of how much power my cat-back gave.

I dynoed in 3rd @ 216Whp and 194trq. I ran one dyno in 4th and it came up with 212Whp. I was a little disapointed in the 4th gear test. Either way Injen baselined the car in the 3rd gear roll at 193Whp so if I look at it like that I have gained 23Whp with my intake and exhaust.

I also had them check if I was running rich or lean with my new mods. It turns out I am running at a 12.2:1. They told me to get a v-afc controller, configure it to run at 13.1 and I could get another 4-6hp out of it. I can even turn v-tec on earlier, ehich I am considering turning it on about 400 RPM's earlier... comments???

I'll keep you guys posted and eventually get the dyno uploaded to the web.

What do you guys think, are they throwin' BS at me about the v-afc???

Just out of curiosity, why would you expect any difference in output with a different gear? Dyno's should be done in the 1:1 gear, but are sometimes done in others. When they are, there are calibrations that have to be made to keep the dyno readings accurate...

ArideII
01-18-2004, 01:59 PM
I just asked the guy at the shop if I could dyno in 3rd because that was the gear that Injen used when testing their intake. He was surprised that we got a different number than when we dynoed in 4th. I also looked for the gearing ratios in my car manual but couldn't find them. So I don't even know which gear is 1:1 but I am pretty sure it isn't 3rd.

Injen dynoed the car in 3rd @ 193 and TOV dynoed the car @194 and then again @ 217. TOV didn't state which gear they ran the test in and what mods were on the car other than the factory air box was removed.

ArideII
01-18-2004, 02:02 PM
What if you went Hondata instead and had that tuned. I think itd be better personally

Out of curiosity, what do you think Hondata would provide that Apex-i wouldn't? Someone in the v6 performance forum said that they got 13Whp and 10trq out of the apexi on their 6spd.

Also, can my engine handle running a lean 13:1 from 5k to 6.7k RPM? It was running 10.9 to 11.9 in that range.

HONDA_99
01-18-2004, 05:54 PM
Hondata had been contacted few times and asked if they would develop product for V6 engines but they have no desire in devepoling at all.

MexSiR
01-19-2004, 12:00 AM
20 WHP from an intake and exhaust, thats fucked up man, nice job...I would probably get 7 WHP

ArideII
01-20-2004, 07:17 AM
lol, it's not like I did anything. I just bought the products and put them on. There is some dude who has a few more mods than me, nothing major though, along with the v-afc on his 6spd and he is getting 239Whp!

I still don't understand why it is taking so long for mods to come out for this thing. It seems very tune-able

93civic$racer
01-20-2004, 09:46 AM
If i was you i would go with it....cuz even right now ur mixture is kinda lean and 1 it will increase performance now and if u decide to upgrade it will improve performance later....and lowering the vtec engagement point 400rpms will be plus....it might even increase ur whp by 5-6.

HondaIntegraXSI
01-20-2004, 05:44 PM
Has anybody but turbos on one of these biotches?

ArideII
01-21-2004, 07:24 AM
I've heard stories of custom turbos on one of these

MexSiR
01-22-2004, 05:36 PM
Hey Aride II, why dont you get a nitrous oxide kit, its not very expensive...get a shot that wont fuck up your engine and install it safely, use it once in a while and youll be a very fast mothafaka...I bet you could do low low 13s or even high high 12s with a decent nitrous setup...then youll be running against M3s, Carreras, Modenas, Cobras, Vettes...

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