Beat by an Iroc-z cant let that happen need help!!!

ok so heres the deal. at one time well a week ago i had the fastest car in town which isnt sayin much cause its only a SOHC but my friend bought an iroc z and wanted to race so i did and now hes being a dick about it telling everyone he killed me when he barely beat me in the 1/4. We have a race set up for April 21 where everyone is going to be there to see who is lying.. and who really has the quickest car...I have only lost once but that was enough for me and i will be damned if i get beat infront of everyone....my income is only like 200 bucks a month so i need help with some performance....Let me know

You're dead unless you:

a.)Buy nitrous to beat him, but blow up your engine after a handful of refills.

b.)Yeah you're dead.

what all do you have ? what car? wat motor? what mods?

what exactly do you already have done, and what is it that you are driving. that he barley beat you? irocs are fast cars, they really got some power.

200 a month? i hope you have been saving...

irocs are fast cars, they really got some power.
Stock, not really... I think those boats run high 15's - low 16's, and that's if they're in decent condition.

what year is the iroc-z and is it a z28 what year? tell us what you have also as in mods?

some years of IROCs didnt even get the 350... only the 305 they are not that fast really, and most of them are beat way beyond their prime.

Yeah I was assuming he's talking about the old boxy rust buckets..

it really depends on the year, i think the first year they were out they were a mid to high 15 sec. but i think the 1990 or so was about a 14.5. their times really fluctuate depending on the year.

like miataracer said some didn't get the 350; those were dogs. But the 350's were ok for there time. A friend of mine had one in highschool and he used to take it down to e-town every once in a while and run about a 14.7 if i remember right. hard to remember it was about 6 years ago and i haven't seen the guy since then.


~wheres redneck when you need him...or blackSScamaro (i think its something like that)...haha

If he's talking about a D16Y8, he doesn't stand a snowballs chance in hell unless it's in a boned out CRX and he's got some serious money poured into it.

D16s are slow as hell no matter what you do to them. Yeah, Eddlebrock makes a 50 state street legal turbo kit that will get you performance a little better then that of a stock Si B16A, but that's not really saying much since a stock Si will only run like a 15 something in the 1/4 - the only thing you'd have going for you if you did that is the fact that your performance would be A LITTLE bit better, and that SOHC VTEC engines are lighter then DOHC VTEC engines.

You're not gonna win pal - you should just spend your money on partying until you can get a better job that will allow you to make more money to spend on your car if you really want to be able to smoke this guy in his wack @$$ camaro. The only decent sports car that GM makes is the Corvette since they cut out the Trans Am/Firebird (never really cared for Camaros). Of course, you could just race him, and hope he blows his engine - American cars aren't exactly known for their reliability - at least not when compared to japanese imports.

You're not gonna win pal - you should just spend your money on partying until you can get a better job that will allow you to make more money to spend on your car if you really want to be able to smoke this guy in his wack @$$ camaro. The only decent sports car that GM makes is the Corvette since they cut out the Trans Am/Firebird (never really cared for Camaros). Of course, you could just race him, and hope he blows his engine - American cars aren't exactly known for their reliability - at least not when compared to japanese imports.


you are just gonna start another flame war with that last comment man...

and just so you know i have seen a hell of alot more blown engines in civics than in camaro/firebird/mustang. reason being that the engines handle abuse from stupid kids better i think,the engines don't have to work as hard to give the same output, therefore less stress. but in the long run they won't go the miles if driven properly. but of course who knows with the newer ones as none have had to go that long yet.
granted more little things go in domestics.

My mom/dad had a firebird - the amount of small stuff that constantly went out on it made her get sick of it real quick and it barely had a little over 100,000 miles on it. That car was literally nothing more then a constant headache - if something wasn't immediately noticably broken, there was always some rattle or vibration that would make you nervous because you never heard it before. Don't get me wrong, I've got love for GM, I mean to me their cars are just SO much more comfortable then any Honda I've been in, but in my current economic situation, I need to have something that will start up, get me where I need to go and back without any problems, and so far my Civic has been flawless (of course it still hasn't cracked 30K miles yet - but to me that just means I shouldn't have to worry about any thing for quite a while from now).

If I came across some serious money, I'd definitely have a Cadillac CTS (in top performance trim).

To tell you the truth, I've also seen quite a few imports with blown engines, and every single time it's because of the dip$#!t owner neglecting his engine's oil level, or he doesn't have any coolant in his radiator - totally preventable.

You're dead unless you:

a.)Buy nitrous to beat him, but blow up your engine after a handful of refills.

b.)Yeah you're dead.

since you'll only have around 600 by april. thats about enough to get a basic nitrous setup. hopefully you'll get lucky and he'll screw up.





btw, you're dead - no offense, but ricochet's right.

I think we have a flake or a liar - if a SOHC engine is the fastest in his town he must live in a town with only like 500 people - most of who still rely on horses to get around. I wonder if he's raced any mustangs.

I'm going with the flake. :)

I think we have a flake or a liar - if a SOHC engine is the fastest in his town he must live in a town with only like 500 people - most of who still rely on horses to get around. I wonder if he's raced any mustangs.

well if you click on his name, it says he lives in nevada, iowa

i did a search and this is what i found:

"Nevada, Iowa is in Story County and has a population of 6,658."

so there is a good chance that he really is the fastest in his town :icon16:

He probably means he has the fastest car in his school or something, my buddy used to have a SOHC civic ex (actually my civic now) and it used to be the fastest in the parking lot until i got my integra LS.... then i crashed mine and he blew his engine so put em together.... but yea there are plenty of cars that would tear us up around town but they are usally drven by people that wont race so in our terms they dont count.

but thats not about the topic, he wants to go faster so he will have about 600$ by april, save every dime and you have just enough for a basic nitrous tank and to fill it once $4 a lb.


good luck, i think its possible as long as the iroc is well beaten or you get the nitrous

ok i just checked this shit.

I have a 98 civic ex
sohc
ummm.... i have a chip and an intake and that is all


the iroc z is an 88 with a 305 tuned and ported

so what pretty much all of you are saying is that i should just say fuck it and let make me look like an idiot cause the kids got money and can afford a faster car...Yes the SOHC are not fast at all but im so fuckin determine that i will win and i wont back down. so besides the few that were actually supportive, why even type anything and waste your time if its not gonna help

Well, you are gonna have to put a lot of money into your car in the very near future if you want to stand a chance.

Sorry for being honest.

I fail to see where not racing this guy again is going to make you look like an idiot. Did you go around town telling everyone your car was faster? Did you lie about losing the first race? If so, maybe you should grow some nuts, and own up to the BS you've been spewing. If not, then I apologize. :)

A 305 tuned and ported is a LOT different than a 305 tuned port injection, which is probably what you meant.

If the first race was close, you might be able to beat him. First, I'd practice launching. Get to where you're atleast somewhat consistant.

I still think a nitrous kit is probably your best bet for ensuring a win.

One popular backyard mechanic method of squeezing a few horsepower (and years) out of your engine, is to mill the head and increase your compression a little. This sucks for various reasons, but won't cost that much if you take it off yourself, and bring it to the machine shop.

Getting a 3" Cold air intake might help a bit. Raising the fuel pressure a bit with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator might too, but then you have to tune it.

One thing that will help a lot, is take all the trim out of your car for the race. Take out the back seats, passenger seat, the door panels, all the molding, your spare, trunk mat, etc., and your car will be significatly lighter. If you are doing it for just one race, you won't have to be without your comforts for long. This will probably make more of a diff in your 1/4 times than anything else you can do for $600, save maybe nitrous.

heres the plan, ive done some lookin around and a buddy of mine is going to give me the discount he gets cause he works at Orielly's. He has a complete turbo kit of his integra that we checked out and will work safely on my car as long as i keep the boost reasonable. Im looking at a Zex dry nitrous kit, the interior is being stripped as of now just for this damn race the air conditioning is now gone but shit its winter so why have it. and just for shits and giggles im trying to find a dual exhaust, ive seen it before on civic's but i imagine its custom made cause i cant find it anywhere if any of you have an idea let me know

you drive an inline 4 so a dual exhaust ain't gonna do shit for you cept be a waist of money and weight.

I fail to see where not racing this guy again is going to make you look like an idiot. Did you go around town telling everyone your car was faster? Did you lie about losing the first race? If so, maybe you should grow some nuts, and own up to the BS you've been spewing. If not, then I apologize.

A 305 tuned and ported is a LOT different than a 305 tuned port injection, which is probably what you meant.

If the first race was close, you might be able to beat him. First, I'd practice launching. Get to where you're atleast somewhat consistant.

I still think a nitrous kit is probably your best bet for ensuring a win.

One popular backyard mechanic method of squeezing a few horsepower (and years) out of your engine, is to mill the head and increase your compression a little. This sucks for various reasons, but won't cost that much if you take it off yourself, and bring it to the machine shop.

Getting a 3" Cold air intake might help a bit. Raising the fuel pressure a bit with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator might too, but then you have to tune it.

One thing that will help a lot, is take all the trim out of your car for the race. Take out the back seats, passenger seat, the door panels, all the molding, your spare, trunk mat, etc., and your car will be significatly lighter. If you are doing it for just one race, you won't have to be without your comforts for long. This will probably make more of a diff in your 1/4 times than anything else you can do for $600, save maybe nitrous.

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I dont talk shit for one... im the one that told him hed kick my ass which he barely did. it didnt bother me at all until everytime he saw me he called me a loser and this was my friend and im the person that found the car for him, this is more to get my damn respect back than anything

"I dont talk shit for one... im the one that told him hed kick my ass which he barely did."

Ok, I apologize. :)

Respect? You lost a race that you predicted the outcome of. This caused your friend to lose respect for you? Hehe, who needs friends like that? If mean you lost respect for yourself, then you might consider spending that $600 on a therapist. ;)

As for you car, you might set your sights a little lower than all that, hehe. Turbo plus nitrous on a stock engine=scrap metal. If you friend's going to let you borrow the turbo kit, you should do it asap, so you can tune it after you get it installed. With a well tuned turbo, no interior, and some practice, you will probably cream him. Assuming he hasn't beefed up his rig too, lol.

Sulsa is a smart man.

Do you not think he is going to do something to his car. I'm sorry, but a few hundred buck on that p.o.s. 305 and you'll be having problems.

Was his car modified at all?

Just think if he goes the easy way and puts the squeeze on his motor. His motor can probably handle a 125-175 shot and then where does that leave you? I'm not an IROC fan. I basically hate those cars, but if you are spending the money he is too!!!

To put it in simple terms.
89 mustang lx w/ 176k $3200
3.55 gears out of 8.8 truck rear end $300
Used Nitrous kit w/ 175 shot $400
Borrowed drag slicks FREE
$3900 dollar toy running 12.70s all night long
14.30s w/o nitrous

its ok guys ya dont got to worry about it i have found a solution.. its taken some time but i have just realized that if you wanna go fast you have to have big horsepower and to have big horsepower you gotta have a big motor so the car for sale.... $9500.00 let me know if you want a picture. I am flipping sides im going back to american muscle where i should have stayed a long time ago...Just bought an 88 Camaro Z-28 Iroc-z with a 383 stroker, headers, MSD ignition, traction bars, 125 shot of nos 8.8 rearend with posi and a jet 5 speed transmission. took it to the strip at eddyville and ran an 11.7 at 132 mph without a spray. oh and the front tires lifted about 2 inches off the ground on the start, so i think my odds are pretty good on april 24, but i think i need to change my name

post pics of ur car for sale man thanks...

How about pics of this 11 second Z-28.
I'm a nonbeliever in you story because it takes way to much supension work to get one of those front ends off the ground and traction bars alone don't really give you tracking (wheel hop aids) so don't give me that line back. Plus you have a pretty mighty mouse motor. Estimated at 500+hp right?

Atleast from some quick conversion charts thats what I came up with based on your E.T. and assuming your car weighs about 3500lbs. Now it will take a lot more than headers and ignition to make those ponies so I'd like to hear about the heads, compression,intake, fuel delivery, and much more. Now I could be totally wrong, but you did say 88 and not 98. I'd believe the E.T. from a 98 being that low. Lets see some pics and maybe a copy of your time sheet!

haha let's see if we get a response worth anything now...

I seriously need to come to your little village HAHA . I would kinda like being the fastest there , only i would be makin money off you kids ....and yes please change your name , you have disgraced the import scene