A big question Skyline vs Supra

k people i am only 14 and i am a full gear head already i mean i still have alot to know but i know a good amount I know most in my grade. k know for the question

I love the skyline and the supra BUT which 1 is better!. the supra is more arrowdynamic but the skyline is the skyline. from what i heard from skylines down under is that the supra is better stock and the skyline r34 is weaker (supra is 310 bhp with turbo) (skyline is 280 bhp with i twin turbo).

but in stock power there was a model of the R33 gtr that can own a supra easy. and in the long run (around 800-900+ hp) i hear the r34 skyline is faster basically becuase of its fancy powertrain and ecu system (gotta love that powertrain on the skyline). but i just what to know for real WHAT is better my first love was the supra but my second and bigger love was the skyline (believe it our not it was cuz of the trunk space). + i hear that the skyline r34 is bad at drifting and the 4 door skyline r34 is better in drifting.

well i love the skyline hope it wins. plz help me and fill me in, so i can be even better at cars!http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/icons/icon10.gif

Given this is a Skyline forum, you should be able to anticipate what people will say. :) Ask this question in AF's Supra forum and you'll get totally different responses from this forum.

280 hp is not what an R34 GTR (or R33 or 32 for that matter) really has under the bonnet. The Supra is rated at 280 PS (276 HP) in Japan just like a GTR. The model sold in the US with very little different is rated at 310 HP. Go figure. Japanese power figures are lies :) because of the agreement to not have production models with more than 280 PS.

Either car is very good - no surprises there. Funnily enough - being a Skyline man myself - I would recommend a Skyline (remember there are plenty of other models other than just the GTR) - but a Supra fan would say a Supra.

umm yeah i know that thee are more then the gt-r models but the gt-rs are the only ones that have the fancy powertrain thingy the gt-s only have front wheel drive. and if you could answer a nother question. if i wanted to go for speed racintg i would choose the r32 right cuz same power then their bigger and more luxury models the r33 and r34 but the r32 has less wieght to lug around but at a fraction of style am i right? and the r32 can drift better.

when u drift i hear u take of the stability controls i u do how do u take em off on the skyline do u just flick a swich our what? our do u have to take a mess load of crap of the drive train? plz anyone who knows about this plz help me answer. MUST BEAT OLDER BROTHER IN FIGHT ABOUT CARS!! PLZhttp://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/chair.gif (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&s=#)

a)AWD or RWD. not FWD
b)why drift in a GTR? A GT-S is realistic, and you Can drift in them pretty easily, but the GTR was designed for grip driving, with that "super complicated thingie" I believe we call the ATTESA system. Between the 2 cars, the GT-S Seems to be the better and much more popular choice over the supra. although both are fairly heavy compared to most drift cars, the supra, from what I hear, has much more body roll.

Why ask about stability control? Try drifting in a BMW... you can snap your neck from the kind of stability control they have... of course you're gonna take it out if you're considering drifting.

AS for the people who continually brag about the R33- it's actually almost he opposite. the R34 was designed more around the R32 b/c some purists thought the r33 came out to be kinda bloated... the r34 has the best performance stock, thanks to new tech ;), however, when considering I'm in the US, the R32 seems the most logical choice, comparing 28-32k to nearly 100k.

as for the fight between the titans, it seems to break even at the skyline and the supra overall. For all us US fans, the supra is the most efficient choice, in terms of price and availability and range of parts.

hope this anwers your often debated question.

skyline r34 gtr- 320 hp

the r34 is better for racing because it is much more developed than the r32. someone here said the r32s whp was 290. you dont see as many fast r34s as r33s and r32s, because it is newer than them so it has less parts for it. and it is more expensive to modify it.

yeah of course gtrs are bad at drifting. they have all this electronic stuff on it. the gts is better at it because it is RWD, not 4WD.

skyline r34 gtr- 320 hp

the r34 is better for racing because it is much more developed than the r32. someone here said the r32s whp was 290. you dont see as many fast r34s as r33s and r32s, because it is newer than them so it has less parts for it. and it is more expensive to modify it.

yeah of course gtrs are bad at drifting. they have all this electronic stuff on it. the gts is better at it because it is RWD, not 4WD.

Where did you come up with the assumption that there are less parts available for the R34? I'm really wanting to hear this.

As far as drifting goes no the GTR and the GTS4 don't make good options because of the drive line configuration begin 4wd. Make not relation to AWD like a Subaru or EVO, as the Skyline uses a vairiale torque split which is computer controlled instead of a pre-determined amount.

To answer who would win between an R34 GTR and a supra I would have to think the supra would win. I'd expect the R34 to leap off the line first, with it being 4wd and all but I think the supra would catch up pretty fast with its RWD and win it in the end. Obviously the GTR has superior handling around the corners, one of the best handling cars ever from what i read, but I think the supra would be faster in the straight line. Don't really understand why, but RWD cars have always been faster in the 1/4 than 4wd's seeing as how the fastest 4wd in the world is a 10 second car only (I think its a GTR in Australia). Oh no wait, could be a wrx. Not sure.

10 secs, the fastest. You need to do some more research:)

R34 turns back into RWD after the rear tires regain grip. So, it will have the lead, and should stay there.

Supras a more aerodynamic, so. It would come done to the driver, really.

I would say no clear cut winner.

Tony,

So much false info going around as the truth! You put them right! :bigthumb:

Hi Vincent,

Ya, I know :iceslolan

To answer who would win between an R34 GTR and a supra I would have to think the supra would win. I'd expect the R34 to leap off the line first, with it being 4wd and all but I think the supra would catch up pretty fast with its RWD and win it in the end. Obviously the GTR has superior handling around the corners, one of the best handling cars ever from what i read, but I think the supra would be faster in the straight line. Don't really understand why, but RWD cars have always been faster in the 1/4 than 4wd's seeing as how the fastest 4wd in the world is a 10 second car only (I think its a GTR in Australia). Oh no wait, could be a wrx. Not sure.

Now here we go again with someone who hasn't got a clue and feels compelled to just put shit up. This is why people get flamed. Mate you really need to do some research before you make youself look like an ass.

Currently there are two GTR's in New Zealand which have run 8's. The Croydon Wholesaler's R32 GTR which is the current WORLD record holder for DOT tyres with an 8.55 and is also Australasia's quickest 4wd car. There are a host of GTR's in Japan in the 8's as well not to mention huge number in the 9's.
In the States there's an Eagle Talon which has done a high 8 also, and in Australia Mario has done a high 8.98 pass in his GTR.

The quickest of the lot is the HKS GTR which has run numorous 7's including an unoffiical 7.64 at an unsactioned event.

...because of the drive line configuration begin 4wd. Make not relation to AWD like a Subaru or EVO, .

you taking a course in Engrish, Vince? :p

I know what you mean, but only because I already knew what you mean :D

And as for the parts... yeah, seeing as R32-34 GTRs all have an RB26DETT, it'd be pretty strange for there to be fewer parts available for the 34 :D And even in terms of non-engine parts, there's certainly no shortage

you taking a course in Engrish, Vince? :p

I know what you mean, but only because I already knew what you mean :D


Funny enough I had to sit an engrish exam during my residency application for New Zealand. Guess I speak better mandran chinese :thefinger:

i heard the less parts for the r34 thing somewhere on this site.. or maybe not.. but i didnt invent the less part thing!

or maybe i read it on a magazine with the ex vi termini skyline on the cover..

I'll say the Skyline no doubt, The Nissan Skyline GT-R Vspec II. :iceslolan

QUOTE FROM "SPEED" MAGAZINE Feb-Mar 2003

Worlds quickest WRX - 9.40

Australias quickest GT-R - 9.74

I know the Vielside GTR in Japan was the quickest Skyline in the world, not too long ago. We had the HKS R32 here in Australia last year sometime but it was shit weather so no world records.

That mag is a year old. A lot of things change in a year.

QUOTE FROM "SPEED" MAGAZINE Feb-Mar 2003

Worlds quickest WRX - 9.40

Australias quickest GT-R - 9.74

I know the Vielside GTR in Japan was the quickest Skyline in the world, not too long ago. We had the HKS R32 here in Australia last year sometime but it was shit weather so no world records.

You know I'm going to start to ban fuckwits. I take it you can't either read or understand english. Either way num nuts just late year during a jamboree in Australia, Croydon's went there with their GTR. They ran an 8.55 and 8.56 back to back.

People wonder why I get a little pissed off and jump on them. It is ignorant statements like this that truely piss me off !
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Razor,

Hell yes you should. As soon as someone posts something ignorant, ban them.

I am behind you 100% for that.

You know I'm going to start to ban fuckwits. I take it you can't either read or understand english. Either way num nuts just late year during a jamboree in Australia, Croydon's went there with their GTR. They ran an 8.55 and 8.56 back to back.

look dude, first of all, why dno;t you just calm down. jesus christ you are a moderator for crying out loud yet you reply like a 12 year old bitch screamin "ban them, ban them all". If we are wrong then I can admit to being wrong. I truly did think that the gtr running 10's was the fastest in the world coz thats what i read in a reputable magazine and well... frankly i haven't seen the croydon NZ skyline you are talking about. As for you flaming that other guy(ebola 33-t).... man he was just quoting a magazine, don't get all up in his face for that coz he was just quoting what he read in a car mag. I mean, here i thought one of the purposes of the forums was to educate and enlighten people who don't know much and want to learn more about their cars, but when someone like you posts replies like this it really doesn't do the forums justice and doesn't help or serve any purpose at all, especially since you are a moderator. What, are you telling me all the thousands of forum members are expert tuners and professionals??

Also, you didn't mention if the croydon skyline you mentioned was street legal or not?? The skyline i mentioned that does low 10s is a 1000hp street legal car, i know because a good mate of mine used to work on the car. Now i just don't know, like i said before, so i'm asking you, is the skyline you mentioned street legal? If so, then I am the bigger man and i can admit that i was wrong and you were right, but if not, then you my friend can stick it where the sun don't shine.

zwrangler you're not long for these boards first off. Suggestion would be for you to maybe sit in the corner for a while, before you are put there. If you don't like it there are other forums with lessor amounts of viable information and bullshit on them. I prefer to keep the Skyline forums reserved for facts not fiction. You want fiction try FreshAlloy. I laugh at most of the garbage on there. There are so many so called "experts" one would think it is god's gift for motoring. Quite a few of the moderators of certain areas have been arond the cars for years. They know what they are about and what is feasable and what isn't. I for one will NOT let this area become home to trolls, spammers, morons, or self proclaimed "experts". If a person is genuine all is good. If not you WILL be called on it.

The main problem is there is such much bullshit on the net about EVERYTHING. Gullable people ASSUME because some ignorant writer thinks he knows what he is talking about puts it up on a site it gosple. We all know that assumptions are the mother of fuckups. You make an ASS out of U and ME. Get the picture?

If you are going to come into area where there are knowledgable people wouldn't be better to say "I read this in X mag". What do you guys think? Maybe even using the search function which seems to bypass most peoples brain power or comprehension of use, and it would save a lot of issues popping up. If you go through the search function and read stuck threads, odds are it will answer about 85% of the questions. Topics have been gone over time and time again. Although I'm not keen to see old dead threads brought up, ones in the Technical section if it remains technical I don't have issues with.

As far as the Croydons (http://www.croydons.co.nz) GTR goes, it is now drag car, not a street car. It had done a 9.22 in LEGAL street form. It hasn't been regg'ed or warrented in while now. As far as 9 sec street legal GTRs go, have you ever heard of the RH9 club in Japan? It is in fact a club for 9 second STREET LEGAL cars, any make or model. Oddly enough only Skylines seem to make that club. They are required to do that on streel legal tyres (tires of the americans). In japan they use the NITTO 555's.

yeah i guess you did hit a nerve with a few of your replies on this thread. But I do agree with you that a lot of bullshit is posted all the time. All I'm saying is that, not trying to pick a fight now, but i just thought you were a bit harsh on that other dude you flamed in this thread. I mean banning newbies would kill the forums (I am sure of this) as there are so many. As for me, well if what you say is true about those street legal 9 second GTRs in japan then I :worshippy (bow down)to you. I may be a camaro owner now but I love the skylines and i'll probably be buying a gtr in a years time in Australia, so thats why i like to surf and post in skyline forums and even though i may not be long for these boards or be the biggest of experts I am confident I know a bit more than the average keeping in mind I never claim to be an expert. I also agree with you that yes sometimes threads on the same topic are done over and over again, but thats just how it is with any popular forum unfortunately. I mean, camaroz28.com must have around 5 threads started DAILY about the same topic of car hesitation and the optispark dying in camaros. Unfortunately its just the way it is when there are many members on a forum. And yes, a lot of them are gullible people :p but that can't be helped :p

Your and everyone elses constructive criticism is always welcome, thats why i surf the forums, to get other peoples views on things.

Of course myself being human with emotions, good days and bad days is all part of it. We all need a bit of thick skin as it were.

I don't want to see the forums die. I don't think anyone else does either. If we maintain a good factual base that can always be added to it only enhances the viability and perception visitors have of the forums.

Yep, naa deserved that. Sorry to have pissed u guys off. Hope ur over it. Cheers

Was going through heaps of old mags and that was the one that was on top.

What can i say?

NO worries Ebola :) I get over things rapidly.

To answer who would win between an R34 GTR and a supra I would have to think the supra would win. I'd expect the R34 to leap off the line first, with it being 4wd and all but I think the supra would catch up pretty fast with its RWD and win it in the end. Obviously the GTR has superior handling around the corners, one of the best handling cars ever from what i read, but I think the supra would be faster in the straight line. Don't really understand why, but RWD cars have always been faster in the 1/4 than 4wd's seeing as how the fastest 4wd in the world is a 10 second car only (I think its a GTR in Australia). Oh no wait, could be a wrx. Not sure.


There are some components that you can install on skyline to switch from AWD to RWD and alter the torque split among the front/rear diffs.

NO worries Ebola :) I get over things rapidly.

I am glad to see everybody getting along, I mean we are all gearheads looking to enlighten our deepest car passion. On the Supra vs Skyline too broad a question, like saying Nissan or Toyota, supra's make great pro drag cars, and I have seen quite a few GTRs perform well in gt races. Everybody has favorites, I would like to have one of each.

I'm new here and just wanted to throw in what I have on the subject. I have been racing my gtr in Japan for 2 years and have yet to be beaten by a Supra (or any other non-gtr for that matter; including rx-7s). I go to lots of drags over here (both legal and illegal) and never see the Supra do any better than the sylvias and 180s; for what its worth the only RWD car that even runs with the gtrs (though it rarely wins) is the old Z and they're not even turbo! Out for now but I'll be back.

Dude,

Pics and Specs of your car would be AWESOME!

OK first of all croydons R32 is one fast machine.
RAZORGTR being in NZ can u PLZ confirm if rhys mgregor has run late 8s in his R32 i swore i heard it sumwhere but the only fastest time i can proove is 9.4.

GTR VS SUPRA if it where over 1000 metres then the supra might have a chance but on the quarter GTR.

GTR is the superior car all round all u fast and furious Fukwits might disagree though considering your pin up boy paul walker drives a supra!

im pretty sure the fastest aussia GTR is an R32 owned by kiah wilson which runs 9.51 quickest time 2 my knowledge could have been broken by him or sumone else now.

HOWS THIS Kier Wilson's R32 now runs an 8.8 without NOS and on street tyres dotn believe it go to www.japanesemotorsport.com.au and go into videos.
peace

quickest australian skyline?
maybe i'm wrong, but isn't www.exvitermini.com in aus?

and running mid 8's?

yeah...

Yes, Marios car is in the 8s.

is that with NOS and drag slicks but.
kos kiers skyline with NOS and slicks ell i let u do the rest.

is that with NOS and drag slicks but.
kos kiers skyline with NOS and slicks ell i let u do the rest.

Its not NOS, its N2O. NOS is a company, not the gas. Nitrous is N2O.

Y get trivial about unimportant shit like that its just a habit callign it nos if u wanna get trivial N20 is what stands for nitrous oxide on the periodic table of elements.
u didnt evn ansa the question was that guy running (N20)!!!!!!!!!! and slicks or not?????

1. N20 is what stands for nitrous oxide on the periodic table of elements.
2. u didnt evn ansa the question was that guy running (N20)!!!!!!!!!! and slicks or not?????

1 Well then use it correctly, don't show that your are ignorant.

2 Did you go to his website?

1)BAD HABIT

2)ill do that considerin your to stubborn to just give me a straight ansa

3) N2O does no appear on the periodic table. Its a compound, not an elelment.

4) SkylineUSA is right, and if you want to argue with him don't.


5) Stick to reading posts instead of posting BS that is either off topic, wrong, or just plain stupid.

Well fuk me fatal who gives damn we r arguing about gas here.
you wanna go off at me for talkin off topic tell that to the ppl who steerd this thread into this direction.if u dont want me to argue simply ban me.

I got the info :iceslolan

Boost was only 1.5 Kg/cm2. Nitrous was a 50 HP shot. Rev limit was 10,500.

1.314 second 60 foot. 130 mph to half track. Ambient air temperature was 32 degrees.

Best ET was 8.444 @ 163.2 mph.

Last run of the night was with no wastegates (over 3.0 Kg/cm2 of boost) and a 50 HP shot - but they miscalculated the fuel jetting (overly conservative) and ended up running 9.7:1 air fuel ratio - so the car ran like a dog. Still did an 8.88 @ 156 mph though.

Now be nice :biggrin:

And remember its N2O :p

this aint an argument about the fastest gtr in aus.
i was simply putting foward wat i thoguth was the fastest its obviously not.
i am wrong.
but uve gone to so much effort to try and win sumthing that wasnt even an argument u must have a lot of dignity.gotta be right.
NOS NOS NOS is fukin shit.

just out of curiousity...
why?

it is an argument about the fastest skyline in australia, which you were wrong on.

you then asked if they used NOS in the car, continuing the argument...

on the side here... why is NOS "fukin shit"?

just out of curiousity...
why?

it is an argument about the fastest skyline in australia, which you were wrong on.

you then asked if they used NOS in the car, continuing the argument...

on the side here... why is NOS "fukin shit"?

fly,

just let it go, he is a little :screwy:

i'm well aware...
but since he wants to drag it out...
in a thread that is HELLA old...

why not... ;)

I hear ya :biggrin:

supra all the way

i dont no why u people argue about little things... amd supra skyline rx-7 "Z" and wat ever other import you people say can ever stand up against a top fuel dragster 1/4 4 sec. @ 330 mph:)

MMMM i wonder y because they r designed for the quarter mile and shitloads of money spent on em with the soul purpose to go as fast as possible down the quarter.
previously street drivin cars that were designed for road use now doing 8 second passes is a big fukin achievement.

yeah not somethin that you couldn't drive down the street in

i dont no why u people argue about little things... amd supra skyline rx-7 "Z" and wat ever other import you people say can ever stand up against a top fuel dragster 1/4 4 sec. @ 330 mph:)

and what lateral g forces does your 4 sec. car pull?
how long (in seconds, not miles) will that motor last?

do you know how many times those guys rebuild a motor on a race day?
hmm...

yep.

that's got to be the dumbest post i've EVER seen online.

and this is one of the dumbest threads EVER so its time to say good bye