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Koni NEUSPEED Yellow Shocks


micray83
01-09-2004, 11:48 AM
Does anybody know if the Koni NEUSPEED Yellow Shocks are made to fit the 90-93 Integras? They make applications for the 94-01 Integra and 92-95 Civic, but don't the 3rd gen Integras have similar or almost the same suspension as the 2nd generation (90-93)? I really want Koni Yellows for my '92 GS, but I don't know if they will fit. If they don't make them for my car, will I have no choice but to go with Tokico Illuminas? Thanks for any help!

km23honda
01-09-2004, 12:23 PM
I think this is what you are looking for.
http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/acuraintegra.html

micray83
01-09-2004, 06:22 PM
I think this is what you are looking for.
http://www.ltbmotorsports.com/acuraintegra.html

No, those aren't Koni NEUSPEED shocks; those are Koni Sports which is not what I'm looking for. Thanx anyway though. So does anybody know if they make Koni NEUSPEED shocks for the 90-93 Integra? Thanks.

BullShifter
01-10-2004, 01:46 AM
Call Koni or Neuspeed

SilverY2KCivic
01-10-2004, 04:29 AM
No, those aren't Koni NEUSPEED shocks; those are Koni Sports which is not what I'm looking for. Thanx anyway though. So does anybody know if they make Koni NEUSPEED shocks for the 90-93 Integra? Thanks.

Koni and Neuspeed are 2 seperate companies. :confused: Neuspeed is a reseller for Koni however...

micray83
01-10-2004, 11:38 AM
Koni and Neuspeed are 2 seperate companies. :confused: Neuspeed is a reseller for Koni however...
Yeah, I know they are. Neuspeed is well known for their strut braces and tower bars. Neuspeed either "resold" or teamed up Koni in a promotional effort to sell a new line of Koni Yellows called the Koni Neuspeed shocks. Though apparently they are only available for the 3rd gen Integra and 92-95 Civic (generation 4?). I hear they are better than the Koni Sports. For one reason is that are 5 way adjustable rather than 3. Other than that though I don't know any difference. Does anybody else know?

Question is: Are the Koni Sports superior in ride quality and durability than the Tokico Illuminas, "Whites" and why or why not. I plan on lowering my '92 Integra over 2 inches so keep that in mind.

BullShifter
01-10-2004, 02:23 PM
Question is: Are the Koni Sports superior in ride quality and durability than the Tokico Illuminas, "Whites" and why or why not. I plan on lowering my '92 Integra over 2 inches so keep that in mind.

Neuspeed sells valve matched Koni struts/shocks for their Neuspeed springs, found @ www.neuspeed.com Wow look what I sound in a matter of 30 seconds :disappoin http://neuspeed.com/products/product_list.asp?app=30|in&type=2&ltype=ns_import

As far as why the Yellows are better than Illumina's, I suggest reading some of the other MANY threads about your same question.

micray83
01-10-2004, 03:17 PM
Neuspeed sells valve matched Koni struts/shocks for their Neuspeed springs, found @ www.neuspeed.com Wow look what I sound in a matter of 30 seconds :disappoin http://neuspeed.com/products/product_list.asp?app=30|in&type=2&ltype=ns_import

As far as why the Yellows are better than Illumina's, I suggest reading some of the other MANY threads about your same question.

Look, Jackass, no asked for your sarcasm. Take it somewhere else. As for that site you found in 30 seconds I already found that site it in 5. So beat that, asswipe. Besides, it does not offer the info I need.

BullShifter
01-10-2004, 03:39 PM
Look, Jackass, no asked for your sarcasm. Take it somewhere else.

no sarcasm there . . . .

Does anybody know if the Koni NEUSPEED Yellow Shocks are made to fit the 90-93 Integras?

http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_list.asp?app=30|in&type=2&ltype=ns_import - those are for 92-93 designed for Neuspeed sport springs. Isn't that what you were looking for?

Main reason why Koni yellow is better than Tokico stock length strut(KYB also stock lenght)
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/p15d1772fa4e5cdbd7562617af2750b5c/fa6cb56d.jpg
Yellows also have minimal adjustable springs perches for fine tuning. The key for adjustable ride height is having the adjustment collar built into the strut, not a piece that fit's between the shock/strut.

SilverY2KCivic
01-10-2004, 03:51 PM
Look, Jackass, no asked for your sarcasm. Take it somewhere else. As for that site you found in 30 seconds I already found that site it in 5. So beat that, asswipe. Besides, it does not offer the info I need.

Listen pal, Jackass was just trying to help you, sarcasm or not. Don't bite the hand that feeds you is how I look at this. We could all just stop posting to you and trying to help you out, so name calling won't help anyone's attitude towards you. I'm not sure of the shocks you're refering to, but Koni Yellow shocks ARE 5-way adjustable, not 3 way like you said. I know several people running them on their cars to know this fact to be true. I think these are the shocks you are refering to/looking for perhaps...

And I've never heard of "Koni Neuspeed sport" shocks, just Neuspeed sport SPRINGs, Koni Yellows, Koni Reds and I'm unsure what the black colored Konis are called, but they are below the Reds and the Yellows. I think your mixing up names of springs for the names of shocks.

micray83
01-10-2004, 04:24 PM
Listen pal, Jackass was just trying to help you, sarcasm or not. Don't bite the hand that feeds you is how I look at this. We could all just stop posting to you and trying to help you out, so name calling won't help anyone's attitude towards you. I'm not sure of the shocks you're refering to, but Koni Yellow shocks ARE 5-way adjustable, not 3 way like you said. I know several people running them on their cars to know this fact to be true. I think these are the shocks you are refering to/looking for perhaps...

And I've never heard of "Koni Neuspeed sport" shocks, just Neuspeed sport SPRINGs, Koni Yellows, Koni Reds and I'm unsure what the black colored Konis are called, but they are below the Reds and the Yellows. I think your mixing up names of springs for the names of shocks.

All right guys sorry for the name calling and thanks for all the help/advice. Now I know where I got this information from. Perhaps someone can tell me if this eBay seller is making this up or what.

The shocks, which are manufactured by Koni for NEUSPEED, feature externally adjustable rebound damping. In addition, don't be fooled by companies that offer the same part number with the "Sport" not "SP3" moniker. Koni "Sport" does not offer as much ride height adjustment - just 3 grooves vs. NEUSPEED's 5 grooves and use a standard length piston rod. Read the full description here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2453007647&category=33590&rd=1

SilverY2KCivic
01-10-2004, 05:37 PM
I think that seller is making them out to be something they are not. Just Koni Yellows there, nothing special. :rolleyes: Unless you see it on Koni's or Neuspeed's website directly as a special edition model, don't go by what a seller says if you or anyone else hasn't heard of it.

What the seller is refering to is the adjustable perch setting that Koni Yellows have. You can adjust the actual perch (or maybe it's the piston rod) height within "1 of adjustment. So you can actually lower or raise your ride height slightly with this adjustment. It's nothing like the ride height adjustability that coilover and sleeve type spring/suspension systems have however. ALL Koni Yellows have 5-way dampening comfort adjustment, which is what I thought you were, and what I was refering to above. Just contact Koni directly about what Koni Yellow part # you should go about ordering for your car.

SilverY2KCivic
01-10-2004, 05:43 PM
I stand corrected (http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=19|CV&type=2&ltype=ns_import&p_id=1133). These are for 6th gen Civics however in this particular link.

I never was aware that the Yellows that Neuspeed offers for sale were special models that they co-designed along with Koni. If they aren't offered on Neuspeed's site though, then they don't exist for your car.

micray83
01-10-2004, 08:14 PM
I stand corrected (http://www.neuspeed.com/products/product_details.asp?app=19|CV&type=2&ltype=ns_import&p_id=1133). These are for 6th gen Civics however in this particular link.

I never was aware that the Yellows that Neuspeed offers for sale were special models that they co-designed along with Koni. If they aren't offered on Neuspeed's site though, then they don't exist for your car.

Man, that sucks. :( Oh well. So, you all think since I just bought a set of Skunk2 coilovers for my '92 Integra that the best shocks to pair them up with are the Koni Sports ("Yellows")? Also, since I'll be lowering my ride in excess of 2 inches should I invest in a camber kit as well? I was thinking about an Ingall's camber kit (anchor bolts) but then there's this company called DropZone that sells the same product for about $100 cheaper. What do you all think? Is it not wise to be cheap and get a DropZone camber kit to save or is DropZone just as good?

SilverY2KCivic
01-10-2004, 10:33 PM
Man, that sucks. :( Oh well. So, you all think since I just bought a set of Skunk2 coilovers for my '92 Integra that the best shocks to pair them up with are the Koni Sports ("Yellows")? Also, since I'll be lowering my ride in excess of 2 inches should I invest in a camber kit as well? I was thinking about an Ingall's camber kit (anchor bolts) but then there's this company called DropZone that sells the same product for about $100 cheaper. What do you all think? Is it not wise to be cheap and get a DropZone camber kit to save or is DropZone just as good?

It looked to me like Neuspeed had those special edition Koni Yellows for your car when I looked. They just don't have pics of them.

But otherwise the standard Koni Yellows should work just as well, actually they will be just as good, just minus 2 of the perch settings from what it seems. No biggie there really.

I'm not sure of the quality of Dropzone camber kits, but I would NOT get their springs/coilover sleeves even if paid to put them on. They just lack quality. Remember, when it comes down to it in the end, you get what you pay for usually. I'd go with the Ingall's kit personally. :2cents: And yes, you'll want a kit if tire wear is a priority to you, and you plan on lowering more than "2.

micray83
01-14-2004, 03:04 AM
I don't think they do, really. I checked. ;)

JDMDB7
01-14-2004, 11:02 PM
I just skimmed this thread so if I repeat something already said, then i apologize.

There is such a thing as a Koni/Neuspeed shock. Neuspeed (being a Koni dealer) sells two type of Koni Yellow shocks, at least for a few car models. The standard Koni Yellow is referred to as the Koni Sport shock. It has adjustable rebound dampening control and *3* spring perches to adjust ride height. In addition to this shock, Neuspeed requested Koni to manufacture a shock to their own standards. It is yellow in color nearly identical to the basic Koni Yellow. It is called the Koni SP3 shock. Neuspeed requested the addition of two additional spring perches for a total of *5*. They also requested that the piston rod be made 20mm shorter. You can see by studying the image posted on the first page why this is advantageous for lowered cars. So the differences between Koni Yellows and Koni/Neuspeed Yellows are two extra spring perches and a 20mm shorter piston rod.

Micray, since you have adjustable-height coilovers already, you don't have to worry about the extra perches on the Neuspeed/Konis. The shorter rod would be nice for a severely lowered vehicle, but it is not absolutely necessary. If you can't find the SP3 shocks for your application, the standard Koni Yellows are definitely you second best option. Kudos for picking a good company and an extremely high quality product.

As for the camber kit. On third Gen Tegs, the general rules is anything more extreme that 1.5" should use a camber kit. I use a kit made by SPC and am very happy with it. I don't know if they make kits for the 2nd Gen, but it's worth checking into. You can look for them at www.specprod.com
Hope some of that helped you guys out. Happy cruising.

-Nate

micray83
01-15-2004, 05:49 PM
Thanks! :D

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