Old School Vs. New School (bandwidth warning)
matada
01-08-2004, 11:08 PM
OK, I haven't seen this question posted recently, so I will bring it up, hopefully in a way that is not a repost:
NOTE! This is purely hypothetical, so no smart ass replies please. If you don't like the question simply push the back button on your browser window and go back to post whoring.....
Here is the situation.
1. You have $30k usd.
2. You intend to buy a car with said money.
3. You MUST take the car as is, no mods, for 1 year, so you have to be somewhat happy with what you drive.
Would you go with:http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/125995hakosuka.jpg
1972 Hakosuka Skyline
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/125995veilside_33.jpg
1996 Veilside GTR
Both are 30k
Which way would you go?
NOTE! This is purely hypothetical, so no smart ass replies please. If you don't like the question simply push the back button on your browser window and go back to post whoring.....
Here is the situation.
1. You have $30k usd.
2. You intend to buy a car with said money.
3. You MUST take the car as is, no mods, for 1 year, so you have to be somewhat happy with what you drive.
Would you go with:http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/125995hakosuka.jpg
1972 Hakosuka Skyline
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/125995veilside_33.jpg
1996 Veilside GTR
Both are 30k
Which way would you go?
white2abbit
01-08-2004, 11:15 PM
1996 Veilside GTR anyday!
carguyinok
01-08-2004, 11:30 PM
That would be hard for me. I love the ease of classic Datsun\Nissan along with the look.
Then in the other spot is the chance at a total one off style super car. Being I have the classic Datsun at this time with my 240Z. I pick the 1996 Veilside GTR. As long as I could ditch the wing. Worse part of this is picking a car that I have never seen in person.
Then in the other spot is the chance at a total one off style super car. Being I have the classic Datsun at this time with my 240Z. I pick the 1996 Veilside GTR. As long as I could ditch the wing. Worse part of this is picking a car that I have never seen in person.
00accord44
01-08-2004, 11:46 PM
I gotta go with the Veilside 96. I respect and admire ol school, but I luuuvs me some new school!
matada
01-09-2004, 01:34 AM
Might as well provide a little more information. Here are the engines (if you cant figure out which goes to which, hit that back button at the top left of your screen).
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/125995veilside_engine.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/125995hakosuka_engine.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/125995veilside_engine.jpg
http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/500/125995hakosuka_engine.jpg
TheNotoriousMogg
01-09-2004, 03:17 AM
I gotta go with the Veilside 96. I respect and admire ol school, but I luuuvs me some new school!
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Neutrino
01-09-2004, 04:10 AM
well as a collector item or just for ocasional drives the oldschool might be fun but i'm really not that much into old school japanese cars...so i'll take the new model GTR
Bunta
01-09-2004, 04:46 AM
:uhoh:
I really thought you guys would have a little better taste than this. That body kit is fucking disgusting. The stock R33 is a beautiful car.
I love the motor in that '71. And those wheels? What a great look for an old driver. Old cars give you more sensation. This is now a matter of 20+ year old cars VS. new machinery. For the true drivers out there, old cars offer such superior road feel. No matter what you did to that R33, you would never get the same satisfaction in the long run. Viva la olde skool!
BMW 2002 > 2002 BMW
I really thought you guys would have a little better taste than this. That body kit is fucking disgusting. The stock R33 is a beautiful car.
I love the motor in that '71. And those wheels? What a great look for an old driver. Old cars give you more sensation. This is now a matter of 20+ year old cars VS. new machinery. For the true drivers out there, old cars offer such superior road feel. No matter what you did to that R33, you would never get the same satisfaction in the long run. Viva la olde skool!
BMW 2002 > 2002 BMW
Toksin
01-09-2004, 04:53 AM
I'd go for the old school, just for its rarity and coolness. Just like I'd pick an RX-3 over an RX-8 :)
Neutrino
01-09-2004, 04:55 AM
:uhoh:
I really thought you guys would have a little better taste than this. That body kit is fucking disgusting. The stock R33 is a beautiful car.
I love the motor in that '71. And those wheels? What a great look for an old driver. Old cars give you more sensation. This is now a matter of 20+ year old cars VS. new machinery. For the true drivers out there, old cars offer such superior road feel. No matter what you did to that R33, you would never get the same satisfaction in the long run. Viva la olde skool!
BMW 2002 > 2002 BMW
well you could easily take the bodykit off and even though i've never driven one from what i hear the new GTR are suposed to be quite a bit a drivers cars too
I really thought you guys would have a little better taste than this. That body kit is fucking disgusting. The stock R33 is a beautiful car.
I love the motor in that '71. And those wheels? What a great look for an old driver. Old cars give you more sensation. This is now a matter of 20+ year old cars VS. new machinery. For the true drivers out there, old cars offer such superior road feel. No matter what you did to that R33, you would never get the same satisfaction in the long run. Viva la olde skool!
BMW 2002 > 2002 BMW
well you could easily take the bodykit off and even though i've never driven one from what i hear the new GTR are suposed to be quite a bit a drivers cars too
matada
01-09-2004, 05:06 AM
I posted the R33 with the ugly kit on purpose. I wanted to see where peoples opinions lie, with full performance over all else? or with classic lines and timeless personality?
Remember, you MUST keep the car as is.
That makes it more fun.
Remember, you MUST keep the car as is.
That makes it more fun.
lordvektra
01-09-2004, 10:32 AM
hell, here in the us I will take which ever one get. I would have to take the new one and "accidentally" break the wing. the old one is nice but more work and wont be as comfortable to drive
stealthj
01-09-2004, 03:08 PM
as it is?? the old one
but we all know the r33 is more desirable...
haha why dont u put the new g35 in there
EW
but we all know the r33 is more desirable...
haha why dont u put the new g35 in there
EW
2strokebloke
01-09-2004, 04:00 PM
Well I'm a sucker for vintage Japanese vehicles, so I'd have to go with the '72, though I'd really rather have a Minica GSS, or a Subaru R2 SS. Cheaper, still fun - and sadly never sold in the U.S. either.
Besides, who could live with mirrors mounted on their doors? I can barely stand the one on my Renault, I love the fender located mirrors, less dangerous because you never have to take your eyes off of the road, and they have a smaller blind spot.
Besides, who could live with mirrors mounted on their doors? I can barely stand the one on my Renault, I love the fender located mirrors, less dangerous because you never have to take your eyes off of the road, and they have a smaller blind spot.
HogieGT-R
01-09-2004, 05:11 PM
I'm all about that 1972 Hakosuka Skyline....it just has that vintage sexyness to it.....sure it has less power than the R33, but I think that I would get as much stares with that car than i would with the R33, plus I'm sure that many Auto Enthusiasts would envy me......i've read a story in which this car is so respected, that Japanese Auto Shops won't even dare put bodykits or custom paintjobs on it, nor change rims for that matter...this car is so loved that one guy who imported it to America said that he got phonecalls from japanese gangsters willing to give him large amounts of money for the car...and when he refused he'd start to get death threats...so i think that i'd definately go for the Hakosuka Skyline....hell i'd be all set with driving it stock....now if this were only a real proposition.......
airforceone
01-09-2004, 05:17 PM
I'd go for the '72 :biggrin: . I love the newer GT-Rs, but I prefer old school. Plus, the body kit on that R33 is hideous :disappoin .
Steel
01-09-2004, 05:43 PM
Not a Nissan follower myself but: with similar sets of parameters, I'd get an RX-3 or RX-5 over the RX-8 :D
stealthj
01-09-2004, 06:12 PM
2strokebloke
01-09-2004, 07:01 PM
Not a Nissan follower myself but: with similar sets of parameters, I'd get an RX-3 or RX-5 over the RX-8 :D
I'd take the RX-2 or the Cosmo Sport over any of those, though if we were talking piston powered matsudas, an R360 coupe would make a fun run about, and the K360 pickup is one of the most awesome Japanese pickup trucks ever made.
I'd take the RX-2 or the Cosmo Sport over any of those, though if we were talking piston powered matsudas, an R360 coupe would make a fun run about, and the K360 pickup is one of the most awesome Japanese pickup trucks ever made.
Suislide
01-10-2004, 02:56 PM
as much as i love the full brutal power of the RB26DETT (no doubt in tuned form in that R33), there is no way on earth that i could EVER turn down a 1972 KPGC10 Hakosuka Skyline 2000GT-R if i was offered one. i've been in love with the things since the day i first saw one, and it is my life's quest to own one at some point in my life. no R33 could change that.
Mustang-man
01-10-2004, 03:13 PM
I like Skylines when they are completely stock, so i'd go for the old one. :)
Amish_kid
01-10-2004, 07:44 PM
The car in your sig. :licka:
Me likey likey.
Toyota > Nissan...IMO and at some aspects not all. :biggrin:
Me likey likey.
Toyota > Nissan...IMO and at some aspects not all. :biggrin:
integra818
01-10-2004, 07:51 PM
I'm all about that 1972 Hakosuka Skyline....it just has that vintage sexyness to it.....sure it has less power than the R33, but I think that I would get as much stares with that car than i would with the R33, plus I'm sure that many Auto Enthusiasts would envy me......i've read a story in which this car is so respected, that Japanese Auto Shops won't even dare put bodykits or custom paintjobs on it, nor change rims for that matter...this car is so loved that one guy who imported it to America said that he got phonecalls from japanese gangsters willing to give him large amounts of money for the car...and when he refused he'd start to get death threats...so i think that i'd definately go for the Hakosuka Skyline....hell i'd be all set with driving it stock....now if this were only a real proposition.......
You read SuperStreet too much.
I'd take the old-school Skyline. The vintage Skyline is in a museam (SP?), the new skyline is on the streets...makes you kinda wonder doesn't?
The vintage Skyline has my respect.
You read SuperStreet too much.
I'd take the old-school Skyline. The vintage Skyline is in a museam (SP?), the new skyline is on the streets...makes you kinda wonder doesn't?
The vintage Skyline has my respect.
matada
01-10-2004, 08:07 PM
Actually, integra818, both of these cars are for sale, and I CAN buy either one for just about 30K usd. I wanted to make this as real a question as possible, so I didn't use museum cars. I used a veilside being sold by a private seller and a Hokosuka being sold by a dealer.
NSX-R-SSJ20K
01-10-2004, 08:12 PM
I like the oldskool Hakosuka
Vielside to me make foul bodykits they've been copied to death by retard US crap-body fabricators whose stuff won't fit properly. Though i respect the work that Vielside have done with cars i do feel that their show cars are nothing to be desired however their tuned cars are abosutely amazing in potential.
Vielside to me make foul bodykits they've been copied to death by retard US crap-body fabricators whose stuff won't fit properly. Though i respect the work that Vielside have done with cars i do feel that their show cars are nothing to be desired however their tuned cars are abosutely amazing in potential.
integra818
01-10-2004, 08:14 PM
The R33's price will drop as time passes by. The Vintage Skyline's price will rise.
matada
01-10-2004, 08:20 PM
The car in your sig. :licka:
Me likey likey.
Toyota > Nissan...IMO and at some aspects not all. :biggrin:
It's for sale!
Only catch is you have to come pick it up...
Me likey likey.
Toyota > Nissan...IMO and at some aspects not all. :biggrin:
It's for sale!
Only catch is you have to come pick it up...
Amish_kid
01-10-2004, 09:06 PM
It's for sale!
Only catch is you have to come pick it up...
Hmm and judging by your license plate that would be quite the drive wouldn't it? :biggrin:
Only catch is you have to come pick it up...
Hmm and judging by your license plate that would be quite the drive wouldn't it? :biggrin:
matada
01-10-2004, 09:53 PM
car better be able swim.
stealthj
01-10-2004, 09:54 PM
car better be able swim.
http://www.watercar.com
http://www.watercar.com
00accord44
01-11-2004, 12:40 AM
That car is pimp as all hell!!!
Can you imagine driving straight off the street into the water?! Everybody on the beach would just :eek2:
Can you imagine driving straight off the street into the water?! Everybody on the beach would just :eek2:
HogieGT-R
01-11-2004, 03:36 AM
You read SuperStreet too much.
so do you if you know where i got it from ;) you can't blame me though...it's all that i had to do during senior year:p
but if the Hakosuka could draw attention like that and have that much admiration, then of course it'll surely surpass the R33 that it's being compared to
so do you if you know where i got it from ;) you can't blame me though...it's all that i had to do during senior year:p
but if the Hakosuka could draw attention like that and have that much admiration, then of course it'll surely surpass the R33 that it's being compared to
Maple50175
01-11-2004, 01:30 PM
Veilside
integra818
01-11-2004, 08:12 PM
so do you if you know where i got it from ;) you can't blame me though...it's all that i had to do during senior year:p
:lol2: I was expecting you to say that :lol2:
I don't read that crap anymore. They put the same lame humor in every issue. I read SPORT-COMPACT-CAR
:lol2: I was expecting you to say that :lol2:
I don't read that crap anymore. They put the same lame humor in every issue. I read SPORT-COMPACT-CAR
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