me vs. current gen mustang GT

well last night i was driving home from my friends house. i was cruising when i saw this silver GT. i didn't pay much attention to him. but when we hit the toll booth i sorta guned it becuase i wanted to cut this slow ass ford taurus off becuase he was blocking my lane for hte last mile or so. anyways the mustang must've mis thought something and he was pacing me for like 2 miles. i had an idea that he wanted to race but by lookin at the driver he looked too old to be a street racer ( in hte mid 30's ) i speed up to 80 and he kept on pacing me and kept on acelerating, but he wasn't acelerating very fast from 80 so i wasn't 100% he wanted to race. then we finally locked eyes and i'm like oh shit. so he jumped 2 cars on me becusae i wasn't expecting anything and was still cruising. then i'm like fuck!!! he is racing!! so i downshifted to 4th, redlined 4th, passed him easily then poped into 5th back fired after i passed him by the time i cut off i was around 2-3 cars ahead and i was about to him my governor ( 120mph ) and i figured there was no point. anyways i was surprised at how easily i passed him. i just passed him like he how i would normally cut off a slow moving traffic. and yes it was a GT beucsae it had the GT wheels and the twin tail pipes. whether or not its a auto shouldn't matter too much from a roll at 80mph either.

you freakin rock tat.

good kill.

anyways i was surprised at how easily i passed him. i just passed him like he how i would normally cut off a slow moving traffic. and yes it was a GT beucsae it had the GT wheels and the twin tail pipes. whether or not its a auto shouldn't matter too much from a roll at 80mph either.


Nice kill...

It's quite believable, most late model GT's dyno at or below 215hp to the rear wheels. They are prolly also a bit heavier than your nissan...

they only dyno at less then 215 at the wheels? wow i thought they said those cars were underated. becuse i mean from what i heard from this forum. a good drive can get it to do 14.1 stock and that thing weights 3200lbs. so i think 260hp is alittle underated for that E.T. but judging fromw hat you said with only 215 at the wheels. i guess its dead on with the factory rating.

There was one on Horsepower TV last summer. I think it was a 2000ish GT. Stock it only pulled like 187rwhp on the dyno. I have heard of others getting as high as 210-215rwhp. I'm sure there are a few freaks out there, but generally speaking, that's what your lookin at... :)

Nice kill...

It's quite believable, most late model GT's dyno at or below 215hp to the rear wheels. They are prolly also a bit heavier than your nissan...

I would have to agree. Great kill! :smile:

you what some guy had the nerve to say to me in the other 240sx forums? he said that the guy in the stang wasn't racing for real beucsae his car is faster!! what an ass. i also forgot to mention that it was cold last night and that i was creeping alittle to 9.5-10psi ish and at that dyno session at 9.5 psi i was making 247whp. oh wellz.

then we finally locked eyes

Gotta love those magical moments :naughty: . Nah j/k, nice kill man. I got owned by a MGT over the summer from a stop :icon16:

There was one on Horsepower TV last summer. I think it was a 2000ish GT. Stock it only pulled like 187rwhp on the dyno. I have heard of others getting as high as 210-215rwhp. I'm sure there are a few freaks out there, but generally speaking, that's what your lookin at... :)
That wasen't a 2000ish. I believe it was a 96. There is a big difference in performance in the first gen 4.6L compared to the current 4.6L. So 187 RWHP on a stock 96 in about right because they make 215 BHP. A 99-03 have 260 BHP, which amounts to about 218.4 RWHP.

Sorry guys, but a 99+ isnt going to dyno below 215 only if its an unhealthy pony. Autos usually dyno at around 220-225rwhp and the 5spds dyno at around 230-235 rwhp. Anything below that and go check your dealership because you got a bad running Stang.


Nice run Tat, youre lighter than the GTs and putting as much to the wheels as they are so im not surprised you beat one :)

Nice kill! It's awesome when old people like to have a little fun!

nice win tat, and when u said u didnt think he wanted to race cus he looked old, dont let their age fool u cus everyone likes to have fun :sunglasse

Autos usually dyno at around 220-225rwhp and the 5spds dyno at around 230-235 rwhp.

Not calling BS, cause I don't really know, but I'd have to see some dyno sheets before buying into the 230-235hp thing... That's only like a 9-10% loss in the drivetrain, assuming they start at 260hp, and that seems like a low percentage loss to me. I could buy the 220ish hp thing though...

Unless they have more than 260hp from the factory... :dunno: Which could also be the case...

About the Horsepower TV thing, thanks for the correction. I thought it was a later model 4.6. I thought it did seem to be pretty damn low for a newer one. I stand corrected...

http://www.svtcobraclub.com/scmcevents/ats_dyno/page3.htm

There's a stock 99 GT in that link, that dynoe'd 213-214RWHP, and they were happy with it. They said it "defied" the car's 260HP crank-rating.

There's even a video.

Not calling BS, cause I don't really know, but I'd have to see some dyno sheets before buying into the 230-235hp thing... That's only like a 9-10% loss in the drivetrain, assuming they start at 260hp, and that seems like a low percentage loss to me. I could buy the 220ish hp thing though...


No problem:

http://home.golden.net/~trinity/Dyno/mustdyno1.jpg

http://www.mustangmods.com/data/3127/dynolandscape.jpg

http://jonathanb3478.tripod.com/images/dyno.gif

http://www.fnsweet.com/pics/events/dyno0603/dd0603_12.jpg

Those are a couple that I found :)

Anything below that would really seem low to me. :dunno:

wow those stangs sure are underrated from the factory. thats why they can run a 14.1 and they weight 3200lbs.

wow those stangs sure are underrated from the factory. thats why they can run a 14.1 and they weight 3200lbs.
Again, Good kill Tat, dont want to get this thread too off topic man :)



:D

thanks :smokin:

Ok, I'm convinced... :bigthumb:

I was going to say those first couple looked a little fishy, but the last one looks legit...

The others prolly are too, it's just that when they skew the intensity values of torque and hp, the two lines don't cross at the right spot and aren't a true comparison against one another... :)

Yah its just that if you look on each side the Hp and Tq arent aligned the same. It should cross at 5250rpm, but I guess to save space they do it that way :dunno:

DkShadow, I'm not trying to start another "thing" here, but how do we know that those graphs are from completely-stock cars, and even if so, how do we know that they weren't some kind of factory-freak?

I'm only saying that, because my link, where they were happy with the cars performance, the dyno is lower, and they call the numbers respectable, as in normal.

Showing the best possible dyno for a particular stock car doesn't mean that ALL the same stock cars will dyno such.

I traced back the first sheet you gave, and that sheet, though the car is stock, he has an air-silencer removed. As I am not that familiar with Mustangs, I cannot say how that will affect his dyno at a certain temperature.
http://home.golden.net/~trinity/Dyno/dyno.htm

Going back to my link, there is a dyno video where you can hear the car, and hear that it is, in fact, stock.

I am not saying your claim is bogus, but just posting a picture of a dyno-sheet won't be enough for me, when the evidence I found is a lot more compelling, and it does contradict yours, especially the 230-235RWHP part of it.

"I traced back the first sheet you gave, and that sheet, though the car is stock, he has an air-silencer removed. As I am not that familiar with Mustangs, I cannot say how that will affect his dyno at a certain temperature."

The air silencer mod is almost worthless to the new stangs. If you look at the Dyno sheet, you can see that he even lost some horsepower but only gained an extra hp or 2 on peak compared to stock.

The link that you gave had them dyno a 99. I believe that they tested their first 99 GT. I would assure you the majority of the 99+ GTs would be dynoing over 220 hp.

nice kill buddy. :biggrin:

standard trasmission equipped cars lose about 15% from crank to the wheels. maybe 20 on an auto.