Prelude smokes Z28

Tonight, I was driving along side my friend who was in his Intake-only Prelude. We slowed to about 30 mph to let the traffic in front of us clear up. I decided to let his taking off dictate the start of the race, my own way of giving him a sort of a handicap. Anyways, I'm waiting for him to go, and somehow don't notice the change in his engine pitch that signified his downshift. He guns it, taking me by surprise, and I downshift and take off in his wake. He's at least a car length and a half in front by the time I give chase. Anyways, as we approach 80ish I'm closing on him fast, and would have probably have overtaken him by 90, but we both had to slow down because we were coming up on traffic again. So, log one for the imports here, lol. Good race I guess, and it helps me to gauge the speed of a Prelude a little bit better. I know I would have take him in an even race, but a loss is a loss, I suppose.

wow, the only time ive ever heard of a prelude beating a z28.

my cusin got beat by and eclipse turbo on the interstate and he drives a stock 00 camaro ss automatic

Do you mean an Eclipse with a stock turbo, or aftermarket? And do you know of any mods the Eclipse had??

hard to believe a stock eclipse would beat an ss camaro, ive beaten turbo front drive eclipses and got real close to the 2 all wheel drive turbo ones ive raced, and i wouldnt stand even a remote chance against an ss, even an automatic, and DEFINATELY not on the interstate!

Originally posted by ldelaysionl
wow, the only time ive ever heard of a prelude beating a z28. actually, i know this guy whos friend has a '00 Lude with mods and Nitrous....and he strayed on this LS1 and beat him nicely. so it can happen. Never doubt the lude baby. :smoker:

i dont doubt it, just most if not all of em i see around here are fixed up for looks but they dont have no go fast mods, and a lude would need more than the basic intake header exhaust to beat a z28. i like preludes though i wish there were some fast ones around here

my bad, it was a mitshibishi 3000gt vr-4 tt not and eclipse turbo

oh well thats different, vr4s are badass

My bro beat a mid 90s Z28 in an EVEN race. Also, I'm pretty sure you would have won if it was even start.

i had an 84 z28 and any 4th or 5th gen vtec prelude would smoke those ones. the newer style z28 is a different story though... i have never raced one but arent they pushing like 300 hp?

older z28 = slow as hell. newer (like 94+) means u better have some good shit in your car cuz our little 4 cylinders are a lot slower thatn those in a straight line. road course though, thats another story. and as for rally, i got any camaro in a rally.

my brother drives a 2001 slp engineering SS <chevy version of firehawk> and the otherday a 97-99 body style GS-X eclipse pulled a fly by so my bro just dropped it into 2nd and caught that kid in like 3 seconds. LS-1s are not something to be dismissed. just ask blackbird.

Originally posted by ldelaysionl
oh well thats different, vr4s are badass

Yes.

Yes they are. :D

waaaaay badass

That Z-28 had to be an older model.. I currently drive a 2000 Trans Am with the LS1 and two of my friends both have 2000 Preludes... One of them is modded significantly, the other is completely stock...

I ran the modified (at the time he had a AEM Cold Air with Bypass Valve, Cam, Gears, DC sports header and some other stuff I think not much) Lude one night against my stock (at the time, well I had a K&N but like that does anything) 2000 Trans Am.. He had been trying to race me all night long and we finally got onto 2 roads that allowed us to go at it.. The first time he pulled up and gave me the "eye" so we went.. I beat him... he catches up and tells me he wasn't ready, so we go again and I absolutly mauled him...

I'm not dissing on imports... I'm just thinking the car must have been old or not really running.. I have an Integra, completely stock and I also have a Dodge Stealth, might as well be an import it's got Mitsu stickers all over the thing... :)

On the other hand, my car has progressed as has my friends 2K Lude.. He now has a Jackson S/C, Mugen Header, Full Mugen Exhaust, VTEC timer and the previously mentioned mods.. We still haven't raced yet.. He says he's hoping for high to mid 12's.. Does that sound about right??

I have raced both an SS Camaro, and a newer VTEC Prelude (5th Gen I think)

The SS Camaro totally destroyed me, and looked and sounded pretty stock... might have had exhaust

The Lude pulled ahead off the line since I spun, but after I hooked up, I stayed with him (my front bumper was a foot or two behind his front bumper) till he hit about 3rd gear... Then he pulled a bit more, and stayed there neither of us really gaining on the other... The Lude had at least an exhaust, it was extremely loud...

*shrugs* The Camaro was a monster, the Lude was about an even match... I think a Lude would need a lot of mods to hang with a Z28...

-Grendel

BTW, 2K T/A Driver, Your car is beautiful I have wanted a Trans Am for the longest time... especially a WS6 model... I'll trade my Z for your T/A :P

Thanks for the compliments.. I came EXTREMELY close to getting either a Prelude or a Civic Si but it came down to something really simple, neither of those cars had the rumble of a V8 and I had to have thatMy friends Lude sounds sweet not fart pipish at all, race car sounding, but I can ride through the parking deck at school in 1st, basically idling and set off multiple car alarms... There's just something about the rumble of a V8 that I have always loved... After I got the headers and the Off road y-pipe I couldn't believe it... It makes the term "throwing a rev" have a whole new meaning!!

Originally posted by 2K T/A Driver
Thanks for the compliments.. I came EXTREMELY close to getting either a Prelude or a Civic Si but it came down to something really simple, neither of those cars had the rumble of a V8 and I had to have thatMy friends Lude sounds sweet not fart pipish at all, race car sounding, but I can ride through the parking deck at school in 1st, basically idling and set off multiple car alarms... There's just something about the rumble of a V8 that I have always loved... After I got the headers and the Off road y-pipe I couldn't believe it... It makes the term "throwing a rev" have a whole new meaning!!

Lol, I know, my dad has a AMC 401 in his 79 Jeep Cherokee Chief, once he put headers and a new exhaust (2 1/2 inch or 3 inch... dont remember) it sounds bad ass... the other morning he was doin somethin and he just punched the throttle, it woke me up, but it was a sweet sound to wake up to :)

My parents just got a motor home with a Chevy 454 w/headers and exhaust (the guy who had it before put exhaust on it for some reason :bloated: ) My dad was revving that up just so I could hear it, it sounded sweet too :P

My little 2.8 liter I6 in my Z is rather quiet... when I rev at people the engine and turbo make more noise than my exhaust does *sighs*

-Grendel

BTW, Your car would look even more pimp with the ram air hood, who cares if you actually have ram air or not, just putting the hood on would make it look mean :)

Yeh, I've been looking at the SLP Ram Air H.O. Hood.. If i get it though, it's got to be functional something about just having it for looks doesn't sit with me.. I mean, it would be neat but people would be like "is it ram air" and I can say "yes it is" now, but it just would be like I was trying to put the hood off as functional, ya know? I've been looking into it.. We'll see what happens!

I don't think Self's LT1 is run down or oldish. I heard he runs 11's n/a, and plus he gave the Prelude a jump and it was only up to about 90 mph.

Self is your Z28 automatic? Because I heard that even though there is hardly a difference between auto and manual when it comes to V8's for the 1/4, that on rolling starts, having a manual is better because of a more responsive downshift.

Who knows? I do know that Prelude's with H22's can run 15 flat with a good driver, so if you can find a way to shave off at least 150 pounds, put responsive bolt on's, and learn how to drive you could easily get a mid 14 second time slip with a good r/t and 60 ft. time. Of course, racing an LS1/LT1 on the freeway is a completely different story.

Originally posted by S2Corolla
I don't think Self's LT1 is run down or oldish. I heard he runs 11's n/a, and plus he gave the Prelude a jump and it was only up to about 90 mph.

Self is your Z28 automatic? Because I heard that even though there is hardly a difference between auto and manual when it comes to V8's for the 1/4, that on rolling starts, having a manual is better because of a more responsive downshift.

Who knows? I do know that Prelude's with H22's can run 15 flat with a good driver, so if you can find a way to shave off at least 150 pounds, put responsive bolt on's, and learn how to drive you could easily get a mid 14 second time slip with a good r/t and 60 ft. time. Of course, racing an LS1/LT1 on the freeway is a completely different story.

Oh, no way...Not old or run down...It's a 95 in tip-top shape(well...I admit I need new plugs now:) ). But yea...That race was awhile ago, but I remember he was about 1 and a half, maybe two full lengths ahead, before I even downshifted...And we were going 45-50 I want to say(not positive). Anyways, by about 75 - 80, I had caught him easily, and would have full farrr farrr away were it not for upcomign traffic, lol. Even though my car wasn't what it is now, back then, I know I still would have solidly beat him, he only has basic bolt-ons after all. Since then I've added the cam, RRs, TB, clutch, 4.10s, new tires, SFCs, and had the heads reworked. So I'm quite a bit quicker now than I was then. And about the gearing...I have an M6(manual). I'm not too sure about LT1s, but I know that in the newer LS1s, the automatic is quicker from a roll. This is due to the fact that it can drop to a lower gear from a higher speed. Example, doing 65 - 70ish, an M6 can only drop to 3rd, while the A4 can move down to second...Don't know if it's the same with the LT1s though. I would venture to say it isn't though, b/c I beat a couple A4 LT1s from rolls when I was stock.

Originally posted by 2K T/A Driver
Yeh, I've been looking at the SLP Ram Air H.O. Hood.. If i get it though, it's got to be functional something about just having it for looks doesn't sit with me.. I mean, it would be neat but people would be like "is it ram air" and I can say "yes it is" now, but it just would be like I was trying to put the hood off as functional, ya know? I've been looking into it.. We'll see what happens!

Can you just add the Ram Air box or whatever it is to your model T/A? You could get a supercharger and say you got the hood to flow more air into it :D Or go turbo and make some crazy intake system... Just so you could say its functional :)

If a Turbocharged Trans Am pulled up next to just about any import driver, I think they would shit themselves :P

-Grendel

Originally posted by Grendel


Can you just add the Ram Air box or whatever it is to your model T/A? You could get a supercharger and say you got the hood to flow more air into it :D Or go turbo and make some crazy intake system... Just so you could say its functional :)

If a Turbocharged Trans Am pulled up next to just about any import driver, I think they would shit themselves :P

-Grendel

Yeh, I'm thinking about adding the ram air box... so we'll see.. I might just g'head and do the hood and deal... I know a kid with a 97' SS with a 383 Stroker/Turbo in it... It's insanely fast..

My car will be supercharged in the next year and hopefully I'll be running mid to low 10's... Right now I'm trying to break into the 11's...

Originally posted by 2K T/A Driver


Yeh, I'm thinking about adding the ram air box... so we'll see.. I might just g'head and do the hood and deal... I know a kid with a 97' SS with a 383 Stroker/Turbo in it... It's insanely fast..

My car will be supercharged in the next year and hopefully I'll be running mid to low 10's... Right now I'm trying to break into the 11's...

Bad ass man... Whats the kid with the stroker/turbo kit run in the 1/4?

Running 10's, you would be able to beat just about anything on the street eh? Delicious...

-Grendel

I must say, you have one of the sickest T/A's i've seen in a while. I think its safe to say that if that if it had the proper holes i would want to have sex with your car

how is it the sickest one you've seen in a while? don't get me wrong i think that t/a's are fuckin badass but it is basically stock. but anyways back to the point, when are we gonna trade cars?:D

Originally posted by 95civicman
how is it the sickest one you've seen in a while? don't get me wrong i think that t/a's are fuckin badass but it is basically stock. but anyways back to the point, when are we gonna trade cars?:D

But thats one of the best parts of a T/A... they are beautiful even stock... :P

-Grendel

Originally posted by Grendel


But thats one of the best parts of a T/A... they are beautiful even stock... :P

-Grendel


indeed they are.