hey mustang guys

Theres people doggin mustangs on the camaro forums and talkin about how they are a bunch of tin can ricers and crap. If I were you, id tell them how it really is.

it happens everday. dont worry bout it.

Camaro guys have been doing that since.....that's right...1966 when the 67 Camaro came out. No offense taken, I do the same to them on a daily basis but I don't mea...wait I DO mean it. :)

so what

They are both bad ass, I own one of each and I love both.

As long as they stay over there I don't care :cwm27:

hey lets be a noob and try to start flame wars!

Isn't there a bridge or a tall building you could be jumping off right now?

It's too bad the camaro's couldn't have lasted one year longer so that the 03 cobra's could have decided the forever long battle once and for all. But then again, what could they have done; the cobra's are stepping up to the vettes and chevy can't make a camaro to outrun the corvettes. In some sense I guess you could say the ford mustangs shut down the camaros. No disrespect to camaros, ford just was on their game. :smokin:

the new base model vettes run 12.5 1/4 miles, im not sure what the cobra runs but if it runs faster than that...well then its damn quick, but in 06 when the 500+hp Z06 comes out, im sure ford wont have anything to retaliate with. no disrespect to ford.

the new base model vettes run 12.5 1/4 miles, im not sure what the cobra runs but if it runs faster than that...well then its damn quick, but in 06 when the 500+hp Z06 comes out, im sure ford wont have anything to retaliate with. no disrespect to ford.


Well I think though that the 2005 Ford GT will be quite an opponent for the new Z06. It seems that car will be absolutely badass.

The 05 looks great, whats the story on performance?

the new base model vettes run 12.5 1/4 miles, im not sure what the cobra runs but if it runs faster than that...well then its damn quick, but in 06 when the 500+hp Z06 comes out, im sure ford wont have anything to retaliate with. no disrespect to ford.

no they do not a base vette runs mid to low 13's depending on the driver and we will see if that 500 hp monster really makes it to the street. alot canbe decided and shutdown in two years

the 04 vette runs low 13s the new 05 vette runs 12.5 get your facts right before you talk.

05 base model vette specs

400hp @6000rpms
400ft/lbs @ 4400
6 speed manual/4 speed auto
18in wheels in front 19s in back
105.7in wheelbase
3245 curb weight
8.11 power to weight
51/49 weight distribution
0-30 1.8 seconds
0-60 4.1
0-100 9.5
1/4 mile- 12.5@115
skidpad .95gs
60-0 112 feet
600ft slalom 70mph
$47,000
19/28 mpg

Well the engine will be supercharged 330cc DOHC 32 Valve. Making 500Hp/500 lb-ft TQ.

300ft Skid pad -.98 G
0-60 -3.3 Seconds
0-100 -7.6 seconds
1/4 as tested by Car and Driver was 11.6@ 128. Which i believe is better or dead on a Dodge Viper SRT-10 and the same as the 96 McLaren F1(The so-called worlds fastest car)
top speed is supposed around 200.

Car and Driver faced it against a Porsche GT3 and Ferrari Challenge Stradale, and it handedly beat them. The article was kinda odd in that it stated the GT was the best throughout the laps they ran and cornered incredibly well. Yet in the end they talked of the steering being almost lifeless.
It seems to be a pretty nice and quick car.

what the fuck car are you talking about.

and did you say 330CCs dammmmn :biggrin:

what the fuck car are you talking about.


2005 Ford GT

Yea it should have been 5400 cc. Hehe whoops

umm the 05 GT has 300 hp and 315 ft lbs
13.9 1/4 mile

SOCH naturally aspirated...where are you getting your info?

and it only has 3 valves/cyl

We must not be talking about the same car here. The 2005 Ford GT has a 32 Valve v8. 4 Valves a cylinder. And I dont know where you got those power numbers if we are in fact talking about the same car.


Getting my info from Car and Driver mag and www.fast-autos.net. And common sense, why would Ford bring back the GT40 and give it a measly 300 horses? Its supposed to be the top of line Ford Supercar.

im reading my february motor trend. where they world debut'd both 05 GT and 05 Vette a must to pick up. http://www.motortrend.com id HIGHLY advise you to have a look see.

Okay we arent talking about the same car. Your talking Mustang Gt. Im talking the GT. The GT40 remake.

cool

the 04 vette runs low 13s the new 05 vette runs 12.5 get your facts right before you talk.

05 base model vette specs

400hp @6000rpms
400ft/lbs @ 4400
6 speed manual/4 speed auto
18in wheels in front 19s in back
105.7in wheelbase
3245 curb weight
8.11 power to weight
51/49 weight distribution
0-30 1.8 seconds
0-60 4.1
0-100 9.5
1/4 mile- 12.5@115
skidpad .95gs
60-0 112 feet
600ft slalom 70mph
$47,000
19/28 mpg

there is not a production 05 vette so don't bring up a car that you can't buy

sorry about that, ive always called the "gt" the gt40. and when the Z06 comes out it would have near the same performance numbers for half the price, and in my opinion look better than the GT40.

yes there is a 05 vette chevy released it, it just isnt going on sale til june. but thanks for making yourself look stupid.

I haven't heard anything on the new vettes ,but My guess is Chevy will definately go with a 500hp Z06. I think that they have to keep up with the SRT-10 and the Ford GT.

Im not sure what to think of the new Vette's looks tho. Maybe because i kinda fell in love with the design now, but the front end i just cant decide whether or not i like. I the sides and the rear looks a bit better, but the car just doesnt seem Corvette in the front. And like i said, the Z06 will have to have nearly the same performance numbers to keep up.

2004 is gonna be the year of Chevrolet, go to www.chevrolet.com and download their new commercial...its by far the best commercial ive ever seen.

Yea I saw it last night. Looks pretty good although I do recall what looked to be some sort of altezza tailights on one of the cars, I could be wrong though. I hope and pray that Chevy doesnt go to that.

even though i dont like the SSR, i thought it was insane when the driver 180'd it and put it in reverse to put it on the car-carrier.

Yea that was pretty awesome. That car unfortunately is supposed to be a $40,000 hunk of junk. Another failure like the Prowler.

yep, ive driven an SSR, slow and doesnt handle very well. definitly not worth the pricetag.

and the prowler was a failure cuz it was plymouth, if it was a dodge, then it would have gotten twice as many sales.

and the prowler was a failure cuz it was plymouth, if it was a dodge, then it would have gotten twice as many sales.


no, because it is slow, ugly, and over priced. made for old farts with too much money.

i didnt think it was that bad of a car. i wouldnt buy on though.

even though i dont like the SSR, i thought it was insane when the driver 180'd it and put it in reverse to put it on the car-carrier.
Yeah and it was so real too :rolleyes:

i liked the prowler it was part of chryslers retro deal i would buy it if i was a billionare

Yeah and it was so real too


its not impossible, i bet it was real, with a little or alot of practice by a professional driver. bet they fucked up quite a few times though

yes there is a 05 vette chevy released it, it just isnt going on sale til june. but thanks for making yourself look stupid.

exactly.... Can't buy untill june. Lets see what they accually run at the track. I bet 12.9-13.2. Im not interested in corrected times and MPH. Thats about what a '03 Z06 usually runs at a track.

its not impossible, i bet it was real, with a little or alot of practice by a professional driver. bet they fucked up quite a few times though
They shot the truck doing a spinout, then shot some guy putting it in reverse while parked in a parking lot or something, then had a truck already on the ramp and started shooting while it was backing up. You can't drive a car/truck flying backwards at 55-65mph in a straight line, it's scary enough doing it at 30mph. Go try driving backwards at freeway speeds then try and say it was real.

you might not be able to, but someone else may be able to. im not sayin it was ABSOLUTLY real, but im sure that its possible. but there of course was some special effects.

and the commercial never showed/said how fast it was going...;)

It's too bad the camaro's couldn't have lasted one year longer so that the 03 cobra's could have decided the forever long battle once and for all. But then again, what could they have done; the cobra's are stepping up to the vettes and chevy can't make a camaro to outrun the corvettes. In some sense I guess you could say the ford mustangs shut down the camaros. No disrespect to camaros, ford just was on their game. :smokin:

Well I guess you have not heard about the new 2005 Ford Mustang built on a Lincoln LSC chasis and pushing 490HP to the rear wheels with a factory supercharger... Considering this car will weigh 3200 pounds it should run in the mid 11's without much problem. Those figures come from a prototype model.

Ford is officially unveiling the car this month.

:grinno: My Mustang Mods are Coast High Performance 347 short block, new b-303 FRPP cam, Ported GT 40 intake and GT 40 aluminum heads, 1.7 rockers, 77mm Mass Air, 70 mm Throttle body, 30 pound injectors, a new 9 PSI ATI Pro charger with intercooler, Mac Shorty Headers, Flowmasters, Art Carr Street/Strip AOD transmission, 3:73 gears...18inch Cobra R Rims and Nitto tires, 5 Lug conversion and 4 wheel disk brakes.

Best Quarter Mile time 11:17 at 118 MPH at Moroso race track in Oct 2003 :smokin:

Actually, to bring everyone up to date. The 05 Mustang is indeed getting unveiled this month (tomorrow actually at NAIAS) and the new Mustang GT makes 300hp. The base Mustang makes just over 200hp.

The next Mustang Cobra (SVT or Shelby nobody seems sure yet) is said to be pushing out north of 500hp. Well north of 500hp. 5.4L DOHC supercharged/intercooled V-8 is the engine the new Cobra will be using, a variation of the new Ford GT's motor. It is not yet certain wether the Mustang Cobra will be shown at NAIAS, or wether specs will be revealed if the car isn't.

If you wonder how Ford is reconciling the fact that the new Lightning and Cobra will make more hp than the current GT does..... Well, Ford says they will pump up GT hp to make room for those two so the GT supercar will grow stouter as well.

Considering that the next Lightning is going to be making 540hp and the Cobra has always made more hp than the pickup you can probably figure it out. As for future GT hp, Carrol Shelby said with a grin and a wink that the GT chassis is easily capable of handling 700hp when asked what kind of hp the car might make in the future. I would suggest taking that as a hint.

ZO what? It will be the year of the car indeed. But, most of those cars will be Fords. :)

It's about time stock Mustangs grew some balls.

BTW, I forgot to mention. Jack Roush's crew has had some stock GT's for quite a while. I am sure the idea is to have aftermarket parts available as soon as possible after release. (BMW and others do this all the time as well.)

According to them the 05 Mustang GT is dynoing at about 320hp at the crank...about 20 more than the factory rating. So, it looks like Ford will continue under-rating their Hi-po cars for now, just like the current Mach-1 and Cobra.

This really isn't a surprise to me as avoiding another "99 Cobra disaster" seems likely to remain high on Ford's list. Besides, under-rating hp is kinda cool and it screws with the insurance guys.

It will be the year of the car indeed. But, most of those cars will be Fords.

chevy is introducing pretty much an all new line up, id like to see ford out sell chevrolet in 2004. i guess we'll have to see. ;)

The front office can worry about 'out selling' the Bow-tie boys - guys on this board are more concerned about 'out running' Chevy and GM. Looks like the new Mustang line-up will do just that. They might as well keep the new GTO in the box while they're at it :)

i havent even thought about the GTO til you mentioned it, which will smoke the stang GT.

Estimated price of $33,000....

Let's compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges

That amount of coin puts me in a 'Cobra', not a GT ... and the new Goat stands a snowball's chance in hell against a Cobra.

Isnt the GTO suposed to pack a 5.7 liter?

id rather have a Stang GT which has more drag racing potential than the GTO and id also rather have a STi. yea its packing the same 5.7L engine thats been in the chevy line-up since the begining of time. im not impressed. it looks like GM are trying to make a comback but looks like they came back in the mustangs prime. the GTO wont last compared to the new 3V 4.6L 05 GT or the other japanese supercars for sale in this country.

Yeah - a Motor Trend article I found on-line says it's a 350, estimated price of $33,000 and they estimate it will turn the 1/4 mi. is just under 14 seconds - should be just about the same as the 2005 GT from what I have read- but the GT should come in about 4 or 5 grand less, give or take. And the stang looks a hell of alot better IMO. The Goat just seems to have that same Pontiac look to it - like it's a hybrid of left over parts form a T/A, a Grand Prix and a Grand-Am.

Yeah - a Motor Trend article I found on-line says it's a 350, estimated price of $33,000 and they estimate it will turn the 1/4 mi. is just under 14 seconds - should be just about the same as the 2005 GT from what I have read- but the GT should come in about 4 or 5 grand less, give or take. And the stang looks a hell of alot better IMO. The Goat just seems to have that same Pontiac look to it - like it's a hybrid of left over parts form a T/A, a Grand Prix and a Grand-Am.

Take a look at the new HOT ROD Magazine. They have a first look at the production 2005 Mustang and it is very well written considering the CHEVY loving Hot Rod Magazine crew.

personally i dont think either of them have any drag racing potential. they look more futuristic than muscular.

haven't seen that one yet 1Quick...I'll have ta check it out. (Especially if it's Hot Rod givin' any credit to any Ford product...did hell freeze over? :)

personally i dont think either of them have any drag racing potential. they look more futuristic than muscular.

well if you don't think the mustang has drag racing potential I think a few thousand people will disagree with you.

I was browsing through some magazines the other day, and looked at an article on the new mustang. They had pretty much all the stats down there. It was very cool, and I think the new Mustang is a well needed upgrade.

They didn't give any specs on the base model, just the GT.

It had a 4.6L SOHC v8 w/ variable cam timing, puts out 300 horse power @6000RPM, 315 ft/lbs of torque @ 4500 RPM, weighs about 3250lbs

Also, here are some very hi res pictures to either oggle or use as a desktop :) http://www.cdw27.org/stang/

EDIT: Here are the specs (found them after a little searching around) http://www.maximum-cars.com/temp/mustang/