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Ferrari F-360 VS. Ford GT


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crayzayjay
01-07-2004, 10:25 AM
The Japanese companies have a history for studying the same prexisting market only to make a more refined car that is as good or better than its previous.
Japanese auto-makers must have single-handedly supported the tracing paper industry before the introduction of computers ;)


On a serious note, i dont have a problem with a mainstream car being 'inspired' by another one but i prefer my supercars to have an element of originality. It also depends on the degree of inspiration, if you see what i mean...

Neutrino
01-07-2004, 12:21 PM
Japanese auto-makers must have single-handedly supported the tracing paper industry before the introduction of computers ;)




LOL that is so funny....i can totally picture that in my mind and it crakes me up :rofl:

freakonaleash1187
01-07-2004, 09:43 PM
i agree with crayzayjay. exotics should be a one of kind. it doesnt matter if a under 75,000 car is "copied" of another, but when a over 100,000 car is, that seems dumb to pay that much for a car that was "copied" off another car.

Mr Payne
01-07-2004, 09:47 PM
i agree with crayzayjay. exotics should be a one of kind. it doesnt matter if a under 75,000 car is "copied" of another, but when a over 100,000 car is, that seems dumb to pay that much for a car that was "copied" off another car.

Again, I say "What components were copied?".

Kurtdg19
01-07-2004, 10:42 PM
i agree with crayzayjay. exotics should be a one of kind. it doesnt matter if a under 75,000 car is "copied" of another, but when a over 100,000 car is, that seems dumb to pay that much for a car that was "copied" off another car.

Freak, are you seriously that ignorant?

So you know that Ford has copied the Modena? Well, what did they do then? :sly:. It seems that nobody else has the slightest idea how they have, maybe you can shine some light on this topic. I mean, thats is what your honestly saying right.? I'll be sure to save a response for later.

freakonaleash1187
01-08-2004, 06:47 AM
im not saying they completely copied off of ferrari. im saying they looked off of the 360 to make the gt. wait, that brings somin to mind, in school, isnt that cheating?

Kurtdg19
01-08-2004, 01:06 PM
im not saying they completely copied off of ferrari. im saying they looked off of the 360 to make the gt. wait, that brings somin to mind, in school, isnt that cheating?

Well freak, first you say they copied, now you say they haven't completely copied, what are you going to say next? The fact is that you haven't a clue to what your talking about. I'm trying my hardest not to outburst myself, why can't you do the same?

The only concievable arguement that would put a Modena on top of a GT would be a purly subjective one (which covers almost every post in this thread). Any other objective arguement would require a degree of proof only to be in favor of the GT 9 out of 10 times.

freakonaleash1187
01-08-2004, 03:37 PM
first thing, i dont remember outbursting at ne body.

second thing, i have a huge clue what im talking about. ford took a 360 and looked off of it. so they cheated. i didnt think of the word cheated till a lil bit ago, so thats why i said copied.

and yes, the reason somebody will like the 360 more cuz it is objective. thats what this post is about, opinion, not completely numbers. and it looks like most people would take the 360 instead.

syr74
01-08-2004, 08:58 PM
As for Ford copying a Ferarri, I'm still waiting. Indeed Ford did buy a Modena. They probably even evaluated its characteristics to find out where they were at compared to its competition (ferarri). What better idea to find out where the competition stands, so you can only further make a better car. The Japanese companies have a history for studying the same prexisting market only to make a more refined car that is as good or better than its previous. Seriously, I feel like I'm repeating myself and nobody seems to even listen, LOTS OF COMPANIES DO THE SAME THING. Ford does it, and now everybody seems to have a problem. I'm still waiting for sombody to show me what was ripped off.


You are going to be waiting a lot longer. Nobody can show you what was copied from the 360 because nothing was copied. The GT uses a vastly different chassis setup from the 360 and within these forums is the only place I have heard it said that Ford built a 360 knockoff.

Generally speaking, I believe a lot of people have an issue with the new Ford GT because it does such a fine job of one-upping it's peers. Great cars tend to polarize enthusiasts of other marks, it is nothing new.

freakonaleash1187
01-08-2004, 10:20 PM
like i said the last two posts, i found a better word, ford cheated. they didnt copy. there, you gt guys happy. now lets drop the copying topic.

Kurtdg19
01-09-2004, 12:03 AM
Lets do drop this topic. Hopfully this filled in a few holes of a lot of ill legitamate claims coming from this thread. And Freak, all i'm asking from you is to simply think before you make an accusation like that. You know nothing of the GT to be criticizing it the way you have. You can have your opinion, but don't go off saying that a company 'copied', 'cheated',.....or whatever your trying to say, when there is absolutely no truth to it at all. There's a difference between an opinion, and an accusation.

crayzayjay
01-09-2004, 03:50 AM
Ok guys I think it’s time to put the Ford ‘copied’ or ‘cheated’ argument aside for now, unless someone can come up with some sort of evidence. Make what you will of Ford tearing a 360 apart - and I’m sure everyone has an opinion on it - but the whole thing has to be dropped now, seriously, it’s all getting a little tedious.

GTStang
01-10-2004, 06:40 AM
As for Ford copying a Ferarri, I'm still waiting. Indeed Ford did buy a Modena. They probably even evaluated its characteristics to find out where they were at compared to its competition (ferarri). What better idea to find out where the competition stands, so you can only further make a better car. The Japanese companies have a history for studying the same prexisting market only to make a more refined car that is as good or better than its previous. Seriously, I feel like I'm repeating myself and nobody seems to even listen, LOTS OF COMPANIES DO THE SAME THING. Ford does it, and now everybody seems to have a problem. I'm still waiting for sombody to show me what was ripped off.


You are going to be waiting a lot longer. Nobody can show you what was copied from the 360 because nothing was copied. The GT uses a vastly different chassis setup from the 360 and within these forums is the only place I have heard it said that Ford built a 360 knockoff.

Generally speaking, I believe a lot of people have an issue with the new Ford GT because it does such a fine job of one-upping it's peers. Great cars tend to polarize enthusiasts of other marks, it is nothing new.


I hear ya SYR74. I'm sorry to all the Ferrari fans but the Ford GT was designed to kick the 360's ass an that is what it does and for less money. I'm sure Ferrari will fire back with a response but for now Ford has won. Anyone who wants to say different is just blinded by brand loyalty or brand misconceptions. If the GT had a prancing pony on it and the 360 had a Ford emblem on it would you be saying the 360 is the better car?

freakonaleash1187
01-10-2004, 07:35 PM
i actually heard somwhere (i cant remember where) that ferrari is going to start putting a 450 horse v-8 in the base 360. ferrari wont take one of their cars sitting down. gtstang is right, ferrari will fire back.

Kurtdg19
01-11-2004, 10:50 PM
Even though I do agree that the GT is above the reach of a Modena (performance wise), there are some things that I wish were different from what I heard. First off, 5.4L with a sound that is as common as charmin toilet paper really irritates me. The 3.6L V8 from the Modena could arguably be the best sounded engine ever. Why can't the GT have a very unique sound as the Modena does? And I've also heard that the clutch was just to soft on the GT. This hoestly sounds
really picky, but why can't it feel aggressive instead of lifeless? Like I said I know this sounds picky, but when you spend 150k or so on a car, you'd better expect it to be damn near perfect. Other talk of the seats not being very supportive, and the viewing of the car is very limited is also very disturbing to me. Granted this isn't the actual production model, so hopfully a change is in effect. Maybe it will be like just about every other car and get a little better as the years go by. I'm still edging torwards the GT, but still these things should be accounted for when sombody is considering to buy one. Their are weak characteristics of every car, so don't think that just because a car has a weak sound or such doesn't make it worthy of its being. These things can only get better. I love to see new cars come into play against these other semi-supercars. IMO

crayzayjay
01-12-2004, 03:58 AM
The 3.6L V8 from the Modena could arguably be the best sounded engine ever.
Nowhere near, imo. You only have to look to its predecessor to find a nicer sounding car. The F355 has the same sort of sound as the 360 but is deeper and less artificial than the Modena's somehow 'tinny' sound. Besides, have you ever heard a Vanquish, or Carrera GT? :D

You are right, though, a nice exhaust note wouldnt have been too much to ask for from the GT, they could have employed the same kind of trick exhausts that make the Vanquish sound so great :)

Jimster
01-12-2004, 05:00 AM
Nowhere near, imo. You only have to look to its predecessor to find a nicer sounding car. The F355 has the same sort of sound as the 360 but is deeper and less artificial than the Modena's somehow 'tinny' sound. Besides, have you ever heard a Vanquish, or Carrera GT? :D

You are right, though, a nice exhaust note wouldnt have been too much to ask for from the GT, they could have employed the same kind of trick exhausts that make the Vanquish sound so great :)
I haven't heard a Carrera GT, so there :thefinger



But I'd say the 360 sounds a little nicer than the 355, 355 is far too sports-bike-like for me, in terms of sound

Neutrino
01-12-2004, 06:43 AM
But I'd say the 360 sounds a little nicer than the 355, 355 is far too sports-bike-like for me, in terms of sound


yeah but on the plus side the 355 sounds a bit more like an F1 can than the 360

freakonaleash1187
01-12-2004, 06:49 AM
i would have to say the 360 sound is the best there is. but dont get me wrong, i do love the sound of the 355. i work at an airport and i was taking a break and i heard a noise and i thought it was a small jet, but i look outside and there was a 355 pulling into the parking lot. it was so cool.

Kurtdg19
01-12-2004, 10:19 AM
Nowhere near, imo. You only have to look to its predecessor to find a nicer sounding car. The F355 has the same sort of sound as the 360 but is deeper and less artificial than the Modena's somehow 'tinny' sound. Besides, have you ever heard a Vanquish, or Carrera GT? :D

I haven't heard a Vanquish or Carrerra GT, but I'm sure I wouldn't be disappointed. In the states it a little harder to come across one of these exotics hehe. It may be safe to say that I may not ever see both of these cars here. I know of one person where I live that owns a Modena and a 911Turbo (what a lucky man). The best combination of sports cars anybody has around here. Other than those two, the Vipers and Z06's have the next best sounding exhaust around here. The Fords exhaust note does sound good, but like I said, as common as charmin. Credit to the M3's, I just had to add that.

Musielewicz
01-14-2004, 05:28 PM
The bottom line is FORD SUCKS AND ALWAYS WILL SUCK. The GT shouldn't even be compared against the 360 and GT3.

Neutrino
01-14-2004, 05:33 PM
The bottom line is FORD SUCKS AND ALWAYS WILL SUCK. The GT shouldn't even be compared against the 360 and GT3.


while i'm not a suporter of the Ford GT this kind of post will only bring a flame war...so please try more constructive criticism

for the next posters...lets not make this post into a flame war

freakonaleash1187
01-14-2004, 07:10 PM
true to that, i dont want my thread ending up with all kinds of cuss words in it again. dont get me wrong either, im not a ford supporter and i much rather have a ferrari.

crayzayjay
01-15-2004, 04:10 AM
The bottom line is FORD SUCKS AND ALWAYS WILL SUCK.
Listen up. You might like to waste your time making such obtuse comments but people in this forum dont like to waste theirs reading them. I trust you'll be making more constructive posts from now on.

Read this (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=162405)

TexasF355F1
01-15-2004, 04:21 PM
The bottom line is FORD SUCKS AND ALWAYS WILL SUCK. The GT shouldn't even be compared against the 360 and GT3.
Go to racingflix.com and watch the GT video. It is hardly a Ford. Most of the car parts are not made by Ford at all.

sflemon
07-16-2004, 11:13 AM
As I recall the 360 modena participated in Lemans this year with the maranello as well. I didn't see a Ford in the field. Truth is, the new GT40 isn't the Lemans winner of the past when it won the closest Lemans victory in history, merely seconds ahead, it just can't compete in the gt or the gts class with Porsche, Ferarri, and Corvette. I'd love to see it give it a shot, but sadly, it's just like a remake of a movie classic, never as good as the original. I'm not going to debate HP of one vs. the other or track times etc.....it's just apparent that they didn't come out with any new technology on the thing. Remember the GT90? Had ceramic heat shields around the exhaust, edgy appeal. I'd kinda guess too that original GT40 collectors would be pissed at them rolling out a bunch of cop outs to the original that look nearly identical and lowers the value of theirs.

91300zxtt
07-16-2004, 12:02 PM
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