what do you think....liar?

would a hatch with an H23/turbo'd/ with a 250shot of NOS,

1. run a ten second quarter mile, and if so what would need to be done? As far as tech. tuning, rubber used (would they need all the goodies/ slicks and skinnies), and anything i cant think of.

2. would a hatch with a motor like that haveing the horse power to run a high ten second 1/4 mile need some serious work to keep it held together?

3. lastly if some had this motor and ran times like this would they be able to make a coment like " yeah i had the car for 4 months now and i havent had a problem, and i run the shit out of it"

i ask only cause this guy and his hatch that i am speaking of rubbed me the wronge way and he seemed like one of those guys that would strech the truth to seem better than everyone (not saying he dosent have a fast hatch but..). and i dont know everything there is and didnt want to open my mouth and sound like an idoit but....well he made that coment "my v-tec sucks" and i dont even have v-tec, and i would think that it would'nt be that hard to notice whether or not a 91 integra has or dosent have v-tec to someone with a ten second hatch. so let me know what you think.

sounds like :bs: to me...
did u see the motor or did u just let him run on and on about his "supercar" ?

There is no hay that motor will put can handle a 250 shot of nitrious AND a turbo without a COMPLETE DRAG REBUILD. Even then, there no way that car is streetable. To make it short, yes, he's full of crap. That much nitrious alone, abit ontop of boost, would blow that engine to shit.

250 shot? ...LMFAO
You do understand that's like an open garden hose feeding into his intake right?
I could see a 150 shot at most on that engine. He's bullshitting your ears off. However, a turbo prelude engine is very capable of getting 10's without nitrous if tuned/built right.

ok you say that a turbo'd prelude engine is capagle of getting 10's, if done right. but would an engine this volitile really last for four monthes after being driven as he said, would'nt he run into many problems with head gaskets or axles, or something small even like hoses blowing from too much pressure?

with that much JDM NAWWWS YO hes should be at the 8s tell him to get a wing. hes lieing call BS and demand he gets pics posted on AF.

with that much JDM NAWWWS YO hes should be at the 8s tell him to get a wing. hes lieing call BS and demand he gets pics posted on AF.

He's probly another dipshit who drives around saying hes got turbo, then when he pops the hood to show you his "turbo", he points to the intake manifold. Ive seen these idiots before. Also, the guy that pointed to his Intake mani as the turbo drove around for like 2 months with half his car painted blue with a spray can, "to see what it would look like blue." We need to ship all these people to Australia and leave them there.

would a hatch with an H23/turbo'd/ with a 250shot of NOS,

1. run a ten second quarter mile, and if so what would need to be done? As far as tech. tuning, rubber used (would they need all the goodies/ slicks and skinnies), and anything i cant think of.

2. would a hatch with a motor like that haveing the horse power to run a high ten second 1/4 mile need some serious work to keep it held together?

3. lastly if some had this motor and ran times like this would they be able to make a coment like " yeah i had the car for 4 months now and i havent had a problem, and i run the shit out of it"

i ask only cause this guy and his hatch that i am speaking of rubbed me the wronge way and he seemed like one of those guys that would strech the truth to seem better than everyone (not saying he dosent have a fast hatch but..). and i dont know everything there is and didnt want to open my mouth and sound like an idoit but....well he made that coment "my v-tec sucks" and i dont even have v-tec, and i would think that it would'nt be that hard to notice whether or not a 91 integra has or dosent have v-tec to someone with a ten second hatch. so let me know what you think.
no way...the dude is bullshitting. im surprised that he knows where to find his engine code...that is, if he even has that engine, most likely he heard someone say 'h23' somewhere and decided that he had one...

I'm a little unfamiliar with H-series engines, but what is an H23? Is it a jspec or something?

Its in the 92-96 Prelude SIs and maybe the SEs too. THe h22 DOHC VTEC is rated at 190 and the SOHC is like 135. The H23a1 has 160 HP and 156 lb/ft torque. Its like the second quickest for that generation of preludes.
Theres also an H23a4 I believe. I think that one might be a jdm. Its rated at 195. I doubt he'd have the newer one.

Oh wow.. yeah, turbocharging those pieces of crap would still take a lot of work for a 12-second pass. On top of that, a 250 shot of nitrous on that thing would be like dropping a match into an oil rig...

match on oil rig now that would be cool

Everyone is always saying its bad to turbo those engines, so he'd have had to put in a lot of money to get the engine ready.

Everyone is always saying its bad to turbo those engines, so he'd have had to put in a lot of money to get the engine ready.

Yea, they have fairly weak cylinders, and they will crack under heavy boost. I know you shouldn't really boost an H22 much past 6psi, 8 if you really know what your doing. I'm guessing it's pretty close for the H23 as well.

Yea, they have fairly weak cylinders, and they will crack under heavy boost. I know you shouldn't really boost an H22 much past 6psi, 8 if you really know what your doing. I'm guessing it's pretty close for the H23 as well.
correct...

these are the same reasons why you find h-series owners supercharging (jackson and i think edelbach make sc's for h22's) much more than turboing. and feel free to correct me if im wrong but, the JRSC keeps the boost down but doesnt require any 'spool-up' time or turbo lag or whatever, so youre kind of trading a few things off. the h-series motors that are turboed most are the h23's though, at least from what ive seen. this is for the same reasons that the ls b18 is a better turbo candidate, being non-vtec.

to ricochet...'pieces of crap' ?!?! that hurts my heart. were all on the same team here. maybe if im not a dumbass well find out saturday.

I've just heard bad things about them.. I donno.. I'll be there Saturday too.

well i will tell you all about this mithical red hatch after sat. if any of you know where Gilman Springs road,north east temekula, is then come on down, it should be entertaning. i have talked alot of people that dont normaly come to my neck of hte woods into getting up here and at least call this guys bullshit if not racing him. well see though, i still dont want to say that it isnt a fast car that he just felt like endulging to seem like the "COOLEST" HAH!

too bad. i used to live by temecula, i wouldv'e swung bye.

Jesus, where do people come up with this shit.

yeah he didnt show...figures!!

correct...

these are the same reasons why you find h-series owners supercharging (jackson and i think edelbach make sc's for h22's) much more than turboing. and feel free to correct me if im wrong but, the JRSC keeps the boost down but doesnt require any 'spool-up' time or turbo lag or whatever, so youre kind of trading a few things off. the h-series motors that are turboed most are the h23's though, at least from what ive seen. this is for the same reasons that the ls b18 is a better turbo candidate, being non-vtec.

to ricochet...'pieces of crap' ?!?! that hurts my heart. were all on the same team here. maybe if im not a dumbass well find out saturday.

A Supercharger is belt driven, running off a belt. The belt drives the turbine that compresses this air to create boost. This, oh course, creates parasidic HP loss on a motor, similier to the way A/C and Power Steering creat paracidic hp loss. The difference, of course, is the paracidic loss is channeled to create forced air induction, or boost. A Supercharger usually runs at around 4.5 psi on a Honda, so of them are umwaprds of 6psi with a "upgrades." But yes, Superchargers on Honda's tend to run at low boost. Since they are belt driven, you get instant response, since boost starts to build and is available the moment the belt starts to turn. This is unlike a turbo where it has to wait for the exhaust pressure to spin the turbine fast enough to create boost. However, a Turbo has no paracidic loss. It does not draw power or energy away from belts or the motor to do it's job of creating boost. This, of course, means it doesn't rob some HP from the motor to do it's job of creating extra HP, the way a belt driven supercharger would. I turbo uses waste, exhaust gases that realy have one use otherwise, and turn them into something usful to create extra HP. The only downside is, like I said above, you have to wait for the exhaust gases to build enough pressure to spin the turbine in the turbo fast enough so that the air is compressed and boost is created. Especially at low boost, it's trade off's. What are you willing to trade off for something esle. I am not a far of superchargers. I don't like the Paradic loss. At High boost levels, a turbo is more more efficent and reliable. At Low boost levels, the resulting turbo lag is not enough in my view to make me opt for the parasidic loss that results from a supercharger, despite the fact there is no lag and boost is near instant. They are basically 2 oppisite principles to arrive at the same conculsion...Forced Air Induction (Though like I said, this is generally for low boost, for High boost, a supercharger is generally not an option, espically a reliable one. Also, turbo designs are much more effiecent now days than most supercharger designs. This will usually eqaul more bang for your buck, or more output basically).

An H23 can be built to to what he says HOWEVER. The car will not be streetable and he will be lucky if it will last 6 1/4mile runs before something fails.

The reason H motors are not very good on boost is because their larger bore leaves very little room between cylinders for the headgasket to contain the pressure. This weakness is the no.1 failure with boosted H's.