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-=Rotary|Dorifto=-
12-27-2003, 05:08 PM
Wassup,

Does anyone know if any Infini Fc's made it to North America? Thanks.

-Ez

Jims5543
12-27-2003, 05:57 PM
Infini was an after tuner sort of like AMG is to Mercedes. They only made Japanese models. Sort of like the 96' Mazdaspeed RX-7 A-Spec was an Japan only model. *hint*

DevoutWankelist
12-27-2003, 07:30 PM
They made one that was left hand drive for a car show (if i remember correctly in florida, but I'm not really sure), but it was immediately sent back to japan.

dayna240sx
12-27-2003, 10:25 PM
Infini was an after tuner sort of like AMG is to Mercedes. They only made Japanese models. Sort of like the 96' Mazdaspeed RX-7 A-Spec was an Japan only model. *hint*

Its more like the infiniti to nissan or lexus to toyota...

-=Rotary|Dorifto=-
12-27-2003, 11:55 PM
Its more like the infiniti to nissan or lexus to toyota...

I though Infini is best considered as Mazda's "Skunk Works"

DevoutWankelist
12-28-2003, 05:18 PM
Yeah, Infiniti and Lexus are more like luxury divisions.

dayna240sx
12-28-2003, 08:26 PM
Yeah, Infiniti and Lexus are more like luxury divisions.


Right,

Infini is to Mazda as Lexus is to toyota, and Infiniti is to nissan

DevoutWankelist
12-28-2003, 10:35 PM
Ok, makes enough sense for me.

-=Rotary|Dorifto=-
12-29-2003, 02:56 AM
So I guess Infini's never made it to North America

Jims5543
12-29-2003, 03:08 PM
I had no idea it was a sister company. Usually the car is rebadged. i.e. 350Z and G-35 are basically the same car but not really and they are rebadged.

I swore I read that Infini took RX-7's from the Mazda assembly line and tweeked them. Then took the Mazda insignia off and replaced it w/ an Infini badge. But the RX-7 badge stayed,

Thats why I compared it to AMG because that is the same deal Mercedes has w/ them same car w/ tweeks.

DavidovSpeedWRC
01-03-2004, 07:05 PM
Its more like the infiniti to nissan or lexus to toyota...
No, you are quite mistaken.

Jim, you are right.

The Infini RX-7 was an aftermarket tuned Mazda RX-7, not another company that made RX-7's.
Countless other car makers do this. For example:
Ford and SVT
Honda and Spoon
Porsche and RUF
like Jim said, Mercedes and AMG

Get the idea?

dayna240sx
01-03-2004, 09:34 PM
"No, you are quite mistaken."

Actually I am right...

Go to http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/history.html#EFI

then go to "Efini / Infini Name Explanation"

Mazdaspeed is Mazda's aftermarket tuner not infini.

Soyo
01-04-2004, 01:22 AM
"No, you are quite mistaken."

Actually I am right...

Go to http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/history.html#EFI

then go to "Efini / Infini Name Explanation"

Mazdaspeed is Mazda's aftermarket tuner not infini.

uh oh... looks like someone got :owned: by dayna! I've been wanting to use that smiley for some time now :loser:

Jims5543
01-04-2004, 10:02 AM
I am at a loss what that linked proved its a buch of people expressing their opinions and disagreeing with each other.

I remembered where I had read about Infini.

Infini had become synonymous with Mazda "skunk works" projects, and a special RX-7,
Source - Sports Car Color History - Mazda RX-7 by John Matras

Maybe I am misunderstanding what I am reading. I was under the impression "skunk works" was a designation for an after tuner like as said before AMG.

dayna240sx
01-04-2004, 10:58 AM
That site is some guy explaining to another about the name explanation. The paragraph with the ">" in front of each line is i guess some email he got and he is just explaining it.

"Actually, the 2nd gens in Japan (and 1st gens) were sold in Japan(and elsewhere) under the Savanna banner. Mazda uses a few different names in Japan (like Ford w/ Mercury here in the States). For example. you have(had) the Savanna FC, Eunos Roadster (miata), and the Eunos Cosmo. With the FDs, Mazda put them under their "Efini" label. It wasn't until 1998, when Mazda discontinued the Efini label, that the FD became a MAZDA RX-7 in Japan and the car was badged with their new logo."

Jims5543
01-04-2004, 11:12 AM
Just sent a message to a friend in Japan to see what is up. You are confusing the hell out of me. I always consider myself wrong until I can prove otherwise. So at this point I will agree with you. This is the first time in the 15 years I have been messing with rotaries that I have heard this though.

infini III
01-04-2004, 01:35 PM
The infini model rx7 was produced by Mazda Japan from the factory. Look at it as a special model rx7 specifically designed for performance. The infini name just differentiates it from the normal rx7.

dayna240sx
01-04-2004, 02:11 PM
and that doesnt answer anything...

the question is, Is infini an aftermarket tuner like AMG or is it a badge that mazda puts on its cars and sells them strickly as infini rx-7s, like a dodge neon/chrysler neon or nissan 350z/infiniti g35...

-=Rotary|Dorifto=-
01-04-2004, 02:45 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but when released in Japan it wasn't even called the rx7, wasn't it known as the Infini IV?

Soyo
01-04-2004, 03:39 PM
this matters why? just gives you something to argue about I guess... the knowledge amazes me :screwy:

Jims5543
01-04-2004, 05:07 PM
From a friend in Okinawa Japan, and heavy into the Japan Domestic scene:

I've seen Mazda on the FC's, but I think the FD's all have Infini on them.. but I'm not sure as most of the people over here take off the badges.

I have been told that the Infini or FD as we know them here was purely a Model name for the RX-7 in Japan.

The InfiniIV we hear about that came to the US for a brief visit was a Mazdaspeed tuned Fc or Japanese name Infini. Sort of like the Fairlady was the name of the Nissan Z car sin Japan.

But then I was told Infini was indeed Mazdas skunkworks division an in house tuner if you will.

So at this point I give up. I was not trying to prove anything. Its just wacky when something you thought you knew for 10 + years turns out to be wrong. I was mearly trying to understand thats all.

Jims5543
01-04-2004, 06:52 PM
Here is the best explanation I have seen yet.

Infini is the name of the limited edition models that Mazda sold in the 80's (RX-7's and some others).

Efini is the brandname that Mazda sold all FD RX-7's and some other models under in Japan (i.e. Efini RX-7 instead of Mazda RX-7).

Other than being made by Mazda, Infini and Efini cars are completely unrelated to each other.
- NZConvertible - Auckland, New Zealand

and this:
Savanna was the Japanese brand name that SA/FB and FCs were sold under.

Much like the FD was sold under the Efini brand name and the Miata was sold under the Enuos brand name in Japan
- Icemark - Rohnert Park CA

It seems Mazda is not a big fan of having just one name for its company.

dayna240sx
01-04-2004, 07:05 PM
Well I'm glad we got everything straightened out.

Jims5543
01-05-2004, 07:59 AM
-=Rotary|Dorifto=-
FYI - Dont know if you have seen this writeup. I always thought this was a cool car when I first read about it.
http://www.nopistons.com/forums/uploads/post-1-1073307258.jpg
http://www.nopistons.com/forums/uploads/post-1-1073307313.jpg

-=Rotary|Dorifto=-
01-05-2004, 01:22 PM
Thanks Alot man

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