Water injection
stupidsm
12-26-2003, 05:54 AM
I am kind of toying with the idea of trying water injection or alcohol, has anyone tried it, if so what was there experience?
EclipseRST
12-26-2003, 05:59 AM
water injecton? what do you mean by that, sorry but it seems like your post is too broad...
stupidsm
12-26-2003, 06:11 AM
Poor mans intercooler, cools intake themp so you can run more boost. Spray it in the intercooler pipe.
http://www.noswizard.com/water.php
thats kinda a good idea of what it is
http://www.noswizard.com/water.php
thats kinda a good idea of what it is
BoostedSpyder
12-26-2003, 11:16 PM
umm... ya... try it out and tell us all about it :)
95_GSX
12-27-2003, 03:03 AM
I am kind of toying with the idea of trying water injection or alcohol, has anyone tried it, if so what was there experience?
i understand why you want to do it, but what have you done to your car that would require this mod???
i understand why you want to do it, but what have you done to your car that would require this mod???
stupidsm
12-27-2003, 03:53 AM
Right now its broken in my driveway :(
stupidsm
12-27-2003, 03:55 AM
But, when I get it back together, it will have the basic stuff, 16g, exhaust, still debating on what I want to do for intake, gm mas or go cheap and do something else, and probably 14lbs of boost.
FourG63 97GST
12-27-2003, 05:09 AM
I'll get fuel first
stupidsm
12-27-2003, 05:13 AM
Oh yeah forgot that, got that currently
95_GSX
12-27-2003, 02:28 PM
If you are looking for a efficient way to cool intake air save the money and go buy a front mount. that is essential on any turbo larger than a 14b. there are ways of going around it but they are a pain in the ass. for the set up on which you are currently runnin there is no need for a alcohol/water intake injection system. A front mount will cool your intake air more effieciently than the injection system and it will do it all the time. you dont want to buy that much alcohol or pack that much water to be able to get the same result from a injection system. most of the time whenever people run that set up it is for track use only. you never mentioned this, but you did say it was a poor mans intercooler, so this led me to believe you werent planning on upgrading your intercooler. bad idea for the already stated reasons. hope that helps you out. :thumbsup:
stupidsm
12-27-2003, 06:46 PM
Yeah front mount is deffently the way to go. I just thought it might be interesting to give it a try? I was defently eventually going to get a fmic, but for the time being I thought why not try it? Its pretty cheap, looks like you can get a system out there for like 250 bucks.
95_GSX
12-27-2003, 09:21 PM
like i said the problem with injection is it only cools the air when you have it on. you would have to build a large storage tank for your water. water is jsut under 8 lbs a gallon. i am not sure how much you would need for a given amount of time. but if it was going to be the main source to cool your intake air you would need a fairly large tank. that is if you are going to drive the car daily. but i give it a try if you like.
kjewer1
12-29-2003, 02:59 AM
Water and/or methanol/alcohol injection hs been tried and proven in every type of motorsport, and many many DSMers use it. There is a whole yahoo group dedicated to water injection. I can get the link t home so you can join up. See the vfaqs, some good sites on how to build your own kit. Shouldnt cost much more than 100 bucks for a good setup.
A big ass FMIC is still the best option, but its 10 times the price :) For some poeple WI may be worth it, for others it may be best to just wait and put that cash towards the FMIC. ITs all up to you. I personally am considering propane injection in my quest for 500 whp on pump gas.
A big ass FMIC is still the best option, but its 10 times the price :) For some poeple WI may be worth it, for others it may be best to just wait and put that cash towards the FMIC. ITs all up to you. I personally am considering propane injection in my quest for 500 whp on pump gas.
stupidsm
12-29-2003, 03:37 AM
What do you currently have fmic? I was thinking why not do both?
stupidsm
12-29-2003, 03:39 AM
Also, I noticed on your site you have the pvc intake, how does that work for you?
- BTW, I was a idiot and bought a dejon tool intake without the bov tube, if any one is interested in buying it let me know, I was thinking about unloading it for like 30 bucks or something?
- BTW, I was a idiot and bought a dejon tool intake without the bov tube, if any one is interested in buying it let me know, I was thinking about unloading it for like 30 bucks or something?
kjewer1
12-29-2003, 03:52 AM
You cna have both, but if the FMIC is efficient enough, the gains from WI wont be as much. But it will allow you to run more boost just like it doesn on SMIC cars.
If your intake is 4", I'll takeit off your hands.
If your intake is 4", I'll takeit off your hands.
stupidsm
12-29-2003, 04:03 AM
Sorry its only 3" :(
http://www.dejontool.com/new%201g%20Intake.htm its the 3" VPC Intake Pipe, notice the 3. Comes WITHOUT BOV tube, stupid me!
http://www.dejontool.com/new%201g%20Intake.htm its the 3" VPC Intake Pipe, notice the 3. Comes WITHOUT BOV tube, stupid me!
stupidsm
12-29-2003, 04:05 AM
oops, its 3" 1gDSM & 3" GM MAS Intake Pipe
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