Its a import...wait no its a domestic..no wait...
NB8CT
12-19-2001, 03:19 PM
I have know about this for a while but didnt know if too many people know about it here on AF. There is an outfit in cali that does the mother of all engine swaps...a 302 5.0L Ford Mustang engine into a Mazda Miata!!! They also do the swap and throw on a Kenne Bell Supercharger adding 6.5 psi of boost, creating 400hp & 375 foot-pounds of torque. Along with the swap goes a Ford T-5 tranny, and an axle and differential from an RX-7 and flared fenders to hold the 245/24/R16 tires, and brakes from an RX-7 allowing 60-0 times in less than 120ft. The Motor only weighs 250lbs more that then stock 4banger; so how does 400hp sound in a 2200lb car??
Here are some numbers from the supercharged car:
0-60 times
Monster Miata: 4.2
Farrell RX-7: 4.4
Dodge Viper: 4.5
Vortech Mustang: 4.6
Stillen 300ZX: 4.7
Morrison Camaro: 4.8
RSA Supra: 4.9
Corvette ZR-1: 5.2
Quarter Mile Times
Monster Miata: 12.6/111.6
Farrell RX-7: 12.9/111.2
Vortch Mustang: 13.0/109.7
Morrison Camaro: 13.0/109.3
RSA Supra: 13.1/113.1
Stillen 300ZX: 13.1/111.9
Dodge Viper: 13.2/112.1
I think the numbers speak for themselves, but how fun would it be to spank a viper in a Miata!! There isnt really a point to non supercharged convertion, as I saw a turbo miata kill a non-supercharged V8 miata in a race after our local clubs meeting one night. The V8 took the turbo off the line, but once in boost, the turbo miata took him.
Here are some numbers from the supercharged car:
0-60 times
Monster Miata: 4.2
Farrell RX-7: 4.4
Dodge Viper: 4.5
Vortech Mustang: 4.6
Stillen 300ZX: 4.7
Morrison Camaro: 4.8
RSA Supra: 4.9
Corvette ZR-1: 5.2
Quarter Mile Times
Monster Miata: 12.6/111.6
Farrell RX-7: 12.9/111.2
Vortch Mustang: 13.0/109.7
Morrison Camaro: 13.0/109.3
RSA Supra: 13.1/113.1
Stillen 300ZX: 13.1/111.9
Dodge Viper: 13.2/112.1
I think the numbers speak for themselves, but how fun would it be to spank a viper in a Miata!! There isnt really a point to non supercharged convertion, as I saw a turbo miata kill a non-supercharged V8 miata in a race after our local clubs meeting one night. The V8 took the turbo off the line, but once in boost, the turbo miata took him.
NismoDrifts
12-19-2001, 03:28 PM
Whoa!
thats just sick.............
thats just sick.............
Nxtyoung
12-19-2001, 03:36 PM
Love the idea but couldnt they have found a beter looking car the the miata?
hakka
12-19-2001, 03:36 PM
whoa...that would be awesome. must be hard to get traction though:( that sounds sort of like the Porsche 944 with an LS1 I saw on eBay a few weeks ago:)
Polygon
12-19-2001, 03:37 PM
Personally I would have picked a better engine.
NismoDrifts
12-19-2001, 03:44 PM
Is THICK ass roll cage on that list of mods they do??
Yeah, i dunno, i like the idea, especially on a miata, i mean, nobody expects a miata to be like BAM! gone....so, its all good....
How much would that cost?!
Yeah, i dunno, i like the idea, especially on a miata, i mean, nobody expects a miata to be like BAM! gone....so, its all good....
How much would that cost?!
blacksnake98
12-19-2001, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Polygon
Personally I would have picked a better engine.
I disagree. The good old 5.0 is a relatively small engine that can be built for big horsepower. I think the numbers above are also a little off. A vortech'd mustang is going to run quicker than 13 sec. in the 1/4mile unless whoever drove was horrendous, or they just smoked the tires completely off the car.
Personally I would have picked a better engine.
I disagree. The good old 5.0 is a relatively small engine that can be built for big horsepower. I think the numbers above are also a little off. A vortech'd mustang is going to run quicker than 13 sec. in the 1/4mile unless whoever drove was horrendous, or they just smoked the tires completely off the car.
Polygon
12-19-2001, 03:51 PM
I would have to agree about the numbers. As for the engine, don't get me wrong the 5.0 is a great engine. But IMO there are better small blocks you could choose. But come to think about it I am a little biased.
AlexB
12-19-2001, 06:09 PM
That's crazy shit but Mazdas are fords to begin with :D
dirty30ex
12-19-2001, 10:09 PM
mazdas are mazdas first... ford doesnt make mazdas... they just own them... and the detroit miata looks terrible... huge scoop on the hood... looks horrible.. but fast.. so whats the point
YogsVR4
12-19-2001, 10:32 PM
Doesnt the Dodge Viper at 13.2/112.1 seem a bit slow? That kind of trap speed would usually be a quicker time. ah well. A miata that fast would be like straping a rocket to your ass.
dirty30ex
12-19-2001, 10:37 PM
rather a miata than a hyabusa.... thats a rocket... strapped to your nutz... you got AIM?
Polygon
12-20-2001, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by YogsVR4
Doesnt the Dodge Viper at 13.2/112.1 seem a bit slow? That kind of trap speed would usually be a quicker time. ah well. A miata that fast would be like straping a rocket to your ass.
Thats what I was thinking.
Doesnt the Dodge Viper at 13.2/112.1 seem a bit slow? That kind of trap speed would usually be a quicker time. ah well. A miata that fast would be like straping a rocket to your ass.
Thats what I was thinking.
hakka
12-20-2001, 02:54 PM
a lot of those times seem a little high...the Viper usually does about 4 flat to 60, and the ZR-1 does about 4.8. Not sure about the others...that is still one awesome miata:D
Psman32@af
12-21-2001, 02:04 PM
The Viper usually runs 12.1's or 12.2' not 13.2's.
striporstreet
12-21-2001, 03:32 PM
Id put my mkiv single turbo motor in a miata,realize im in the 11's
that little car would be a single digit race car!!! Cool !!!
maybe my next little project!!
94 red mkiv 542@wheels
that little car would be a single digit race car!!! Cool !!!
maybe my next little project!!
94 red mkiv 542@wheels
NB8CT
12-23-2001, 10:26 AM
The Supra TT engine in too long, trust me many have tried.
Judge
12-23-2001, 03:12 PM
pics?
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