Rebuild your own alternator
Tercel GTS
12-21-2003, 09:02 PM
Ok, as some of you may know, I build alternators and starters for a living. I took a series of pictures of a Paseo alternator that came through my shop not long ago, figured I'd post the info here. Toyota alternators are same brand as honda uses.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/paseo-alternator.jpg
This is the back of the alternator before starting. Remove the battery post nut and insulator, then the 3 small nuts(some may have a small bracket with a small bolt also) holding the cover on.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/cover-removed-1.jpg
If you have access to an airgun you can remove the single nut holding the pulley on, then you will see this..
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/bare-front-4.jpg
Remove the 4 nuts holding the housings together, a slight bump on the front of rotor and it should easily slide apart. Tap the rear housing slightly in a circular pattern and the rotor will slide out....
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/split-open-5.jpg
This is what you should see now. There is a pair of screws retaining the brush holder in, a good #2 phillips will be needed for all the screws inside. After removing the brush holder it should look like this...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/brushholder-removed-2.jpg
Pay close attention to the condition of the copper rings, make sure they aren't grooved too deep, if they are it will take special tools to repair. The brushes I can send you preset in a brush holder if you so desire, parts with shipping inside USA should be less than $15, slightly higher to cross a border.
One screw holds the regulator to the rectifier(diode assembly), and 2 longer ones hold the regulator in place, then 4 very short screws will hold the wires to the rectifier. After removing these parts you should see this...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/bare-back-3.jpg
Remove the single nut from the front and the pulley should slide off like this....
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/bare-front-4.jpg
Then remove the 4 nuts holding housings together, a slight bump on rotor and they should seperate. Then you should see this...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/split-open-5.jpg
Tap the rotor from the housing...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/rear-stripped-6.jpg
This is probably as far as most of you want to go. Removing and resetting the stator(ring of wire) is a risky thing, even for an experienced rebuilder. But if you are planning to powdercoat the housings...
Remove the 4 studs holding the stator in. bend the rectifier leads to the center, out of the way. Find a solid surface, then hit the mounting ears of the housing on a downward swing to knock the stator lose, working back and forth till it slides out... unless you have the special tools for pulling it.;) Then the 4 screws holding the bearing cover and bearing in.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/front-stripped-7.jpg
From here I get to use a few custom tools for cleaning..
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/auto-parts-washer-8.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/glass-blaster-9.jpg
And we have a steel shot blaster like this one from Viking
http://www.vikingcorporation.com/images/301.jpg
So the housings come out like this...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/steel-blasted-10.jpg
After cleaning, reinsulation, and replacing the bearings, we start re-assembly...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/going-back-11.jpg
Basically putting it back in reverse of tear-down, here's a few finished pics...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/done-12.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/done-13.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/done-14.jpg
Let me know if you need any parts, and look up your own alternators at
WAI (http://www.wai-wetherill.com/products/ymm.cfm)
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/paseo-alternator.jpg
This is the back of the alternator before starting. Remove the battery post nut and insulator, then the 3 small nuts(some may have a small bracket with a small bolt also) holding the cover on.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/cover-removed-1.jpg
If you have access to an airgun you can remove the single nut holding the pulley on, then you will see this..
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/bare-front-4.jpg
Remove the 4 nuts holding the housings together, a slight bump on the front of rotor and it should easily slide apart. Tap the rear housing slightly in a circular pattern and the rotor will slide out....
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/split-open-5.jpg
This is what you should see now. There is a pair of screws retaining the brush holder in, a good #2 phillips will be needed for all the screws inside. After removing the brush holder it should look like this...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/brushholder-removed-2.jpg
Pay close attention to the condition of the copper rings, make sure they aren't grooved too deep, if they are it will take special tools to repair. The brushes I can send you preset in a brush holder if you so desire, parts with shipping inside USA should be less than $15, slightly higher to cross a border.
One screw holds the regulator to the rectifier(diode assembly), and 2 longer ones hold the regulator in place, then 4 very short screws will hold the wires to the rectifier. After removing these parts you should see this...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/bare-back-3.jpg
Remove the single nut from the front and the pulley should slide off like this....
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/bare-front-4.jpg
Then remove the 4 nuts holding housings together, a slight bump on rotor and they should seperate. Then you should see this...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/split-open-5.jpg
Tap the rotor from the housing...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/rear-stripped-6.jpg
This is probably as far as most of you want to go. Removing and resetting the stator(ring of wire) is a risky thing, even for an experienced rebuilder. But if you are planning to powdercoat the housings...
Remove the 4 studs holding the stator in. bend the rectifier leads to the center, out of the way. Find a solid surface, then hit the mounting ears of the housing on a downward swing to knock the stator lose, working back and forth till it slides out... unless you have the special tools for pulling it.;) Then the 4 screws holding the bearing cover and bearing in.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/front-stripped-7.jpg
From here I get to use a few custom tools for cleaning..
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/auto-parts-washer-8.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/glass-blaster-9.jpg
And we have a steel shot blaster like this one from Viking
http://www.vikingcorporation.com/images/301.jpg
So the housings come out like this...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/steel-blasted-10.jpg
After cleaning, reinsulation, and replacing the bearings, we start re-assembly...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/going-back-11.jpg
Basically putting it back in reverse of tear-down, here's a few finished pics...
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/done-12.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/done-13.jpg
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/done-14.jpg
Let me know if you need any parts, and look up your own alternators at
WAI (http://www.wai-wetherill.com/products/ymm.cfm)
Privatebigandrew
12-21-2003, 11:30 PM
sweet man, that is some really good info. The pics really help out for those wanting to do something like this. Only if everyone who gave directions were this involved....the world would be a better place.
Ricochet
12-21-2003, 11:57 PM
Chocolate chips are great alternator cleaners
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/auto-parts-washer-8.jpg
:)
Thanks for the info man, really cool of you to do.
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/DirtWeed/alternator/auto-parts-washer-8.jpg
:)
Thanks for the info man, really cool of you to do.
Tercel GTS
12-22-2003, 12:28 AM
Very welcome, thanks for the replies, as said, everybody should share a little how-to info...
pheurton-skeurto
12-22-2003, 12:29 AM
mmmmm...alternator cleaners.......
fuckin great post!!!seriously
fuckin great post!!!seriously
rubix777
12-22-2003, 01:22 AM
hershey kisses? I've never tried mixing candy and metal parts, but if chocolate cleans that well, sure.
Tercel GTS
12-22-2003, 11:36 PM
The trick is getting the foil to stay on the chocolate....
knorwj
12-23-2003, 01:02 PM
Wait are those really hershey kisses???? I thought thats what they looked like but i just assumed they were something else and my stomach was screwing with my eyes????
if they are could you explain the chocolate thing? I'm confused hahaha.
if they are could you explain the chocolate thing? I'm confused hahaha.
Ricochet
12-23-2003, 02:17 PM
Yeah man, go wash your car with some chocolate bars and come tell me how it turns out :lol:. I was kidding about them being kisses :)
BLU CIVIC
12-23-2003, 02:23 PM
is it me or were there some stuff repeating in his post
knorwj
12-23-2003, 02:54 PM
Yeah man, go wash your car with some chocolate bars and come tell me how it turns out :lol:. I was kidding about them being kisses :)
I figured that you were kidding. So what are those things? is it some kind of cleaner or something? Is it an aggregate to knock crap off the metal?
I figured that you were kidding. So what are those things? is it some kind of cleaner or something? Is it an aggregate to knock crap off the metal?
b16a91civicluvr
12-23-2003, 03:14 PM
whatever it is I have access to One :lol: but don't know how to use it or even what it does!!!!! :screwy:
Tercel GTS
12-23-2003, 06:39 PM
They are ceramic hunks of 'media' that basically scrub the parts dampened with solvent while tumbling in a locked cage. A 55 gallon drum cut in half, a 30 gallon drum with sections replaced by screen, a flywheel and an electric garage door opener can quickly be 'Monster Garaged' into a working cleaner. Instead of buying ceramic media, the collection of extra screw and nuts make a good scrubbing media.
knorwj
12-23-2003, 07:20 PM
ok thats what i thought it was at first, some kind of aggregate/ media for knocking stuff off the parts, then everyone started talking about chocolate.... I dunno guess my brain decided to take a nap without tellin me again...
pheurton-skeurto
12-23-2003, 10:51 PM
'taco kisses for my ben!!!!!!'
nevermind southpark episode.
nevermind southpark episode.
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