how to make your car faster!!!!

i got a muffler and it added alot . i want to reach as high as i can without using turbos,sc,pc,nos what else can i add to get the performance i want. I am planning on getting a weaponr intake but what else can i add.I have a 90 toyota celica gt-s 5sfe motor...

well what kind of performance do u want? lol gotta tell us what kind of performance u want before we can help you

as much as i can get

just tell me some stuff that make your car faster and that would help alot

well you wont get a huge amount of power without a sc or a turbo... i probably would recomend small things like a ecu, air intake, lowering the car, wider tires (helps break off line), maybe bigger & lighter rims also for better turning... maybe even lightening up the car... i cant think of that much because you wont get a lot of power without f/i...

ok how about just adding that burien toyota turbo on it would that help alot about how much faster?

well i looked that turbo up and.... first off... if you want a lot of power, that isnt the way to go... even if you didnt want a huge amount i dont think that kit is worth it.. one reason is because it only adds 45bhp... so now you have a 190bhp celica... THEY WANT $2500!!!! u can find a 3sgte 2nd gen for less than they want which has 200hp stock... for maybe $3000 u can get a jdm 2nd gen 3sgte which has 225hp stock... now u can go ahead and get it... but if your going in the turbo direction... a 3sgte is recommended

well what turbo should i get b/c i aint getting a new car and a engine?

i suggest that you swap your head, and look into getting a ct20b turbo...

i thought in the other forum they said to you not to get that turbo b/c it doesnt have alot of power

who said that? obviously you dont want to drag the car because you werent even going to turbo the car... if you were going to then yes... you couldnt get that much hp out of it than most cars that drag... the max is 350hp... is that number too low for u? on the stock motor it puts out 245hp.... so you decide... can you get a lot of power out of it?

Somewhere down the road you have to compromise. You can't add a big turbo to an engine that didn't come with one to begin with. You can't build a non boosted engine to perform near a boosted engine unless you spend twice the money on it. Where are you located? You may be able to buy a 3SGTE clip cheaper than you think....

i cant live in mississippi and i aint buying a new motor and i already said that!

buy a new car? :P

This has been covered before. Preform a search and you'll find what you are looking for.

There are a few ways you can add power to a 5S-FE.

and i said swap the head... thats not getting a new motor

swap to which head? That's half a motor, btw. :)

where did you get the 350 HP figure for the "CT20b" (which doesn't exist)?

what do you mean it doenst exist... people have made about 350hp (bhp) out of that turbo... of course with a whole bunch of other mods and a boost controller... but it can be done... i never said it comes like that stock... i doubt that he will get to the power since he doesnt even want a turbo but he could if he chose to with the right money...

hmm... i kno this is an estimate but look at the hp...

http://www.cardomain.com/id/darkmr2

just incase the site doesnt work for you here is the exact wording

"My 1992 Toyota MR2 Turbo. Upgrades :: Jap Spec CT20B ball-bearing turbo (1.3 bar(19psi)), Greddy FCD, Greddy Intercooler w/ 8" SPAL fan, Blitz Turbo Timer, Blitz Boost/EGT gauges, Blitz Boost controller, Blitz NUR spec 3" turbo-back exhaust, Apexi Intake, and a Greddy type s bov. We estimate about 350-360 horsepower at the crank/flywheel and somewhere between 285 and 300 hp at the rear wheels!
Sound System: Not really pictured but heres what I got; Pioneer 9300 Organic LCD head unit, Infinity Ref. Series 5 1/4" components, pioneer 4" 2-ways in the rear, Infinity Ref. Series 10" Sub powered by a 600watt MTX amp, and of course the full Delphi XM radio system with Boombox! My car has 3 audio remotes...ridiculous I know :)"

Read my words. THERE IS NO CT20B. It doesn't exist. Never has. What everyone refers to, even me at one time, is a CT26. There is no official CT20B. Nowhere has Toyota ever called a turbo charger that. Only the CT20 which is not the same thing at all. It was on the 3T.

The stock 430cc injectors are good for about 270RWHP max. If you adjust fuel pressure, you can squeeze a little more. You can make 350-400BHP from the late gen CT26. It is a good turbo for street driven cars and club racing.

did u not read my latest post in the thread "more power in my celica help me"?? what happened to ur "my best advise is, dont take advise of the internet" because everyone else says that there is a ct20b turbo... infact your the only one i know that says that there isnt... you know more about cars than me... i know it, you know it, everyone else in the forum knows it... now im not saying that your wrong but my belief stands... bring me proof and then ill believe you

lol.

I don't care if you believe me or not. Sooner or later, you and everyone else will understand that there is NO CT20b turbo. Never has any Toyota publication called it that.

Toysport seems to think the same as I. As a matter of fact, that's why I know there isn't a CT20b. Sorry. I called it that for a long time. Just because it doesn't say "TOYOTA CT26" on the housing, people started calling it something else. I'm not sure why it's called a CT20b.

Why don't you find me official Toyota material even remotely suggesting that the CT20b exists. You cannot. I cannot.

My "best advice" quote still stands. That's why it's such a funny quote.. It's not meant to simply be read and understood. Think about it.

The internet would be a better place without Rumorville being the capitol.

Don't get me wrong. I wish there was a CT20b. It would clarify things. Rather than just Gen this, and Gen that. I gets even more confusing when you learn that the latest 3S-GTE (3rd Gen) has a solid cast exhaust manifold and turbo on the Caldina. Yet the 3rd gen 3S-GTE they used on the ST205 Celica, had the "normal" exhaust manifold and turbocharger design. ie: The Caldina CT26 turbo (CT20b :P) is a 1 piece manifold and turbo design. The Celica's CT26 turbo is 2 pc. like all the other sh!t you find.

Best Regards,
Chris

FYI: http://www.toysport.com/webpages/NewsInfo/Info/FYI3SGTE.htm

Better yet, I'll post it here:

FYI - 3SGTE 3rd Generation Turbo

What turbo CT26? / CT20? / 20B?

The 4th Generation 3SGTE?

If you are continuing to identify the turbo of a 3SGTE 3RD Generation as a Toyota CT20 or CT20B then you are referring to an imaginary, non-existent turbo. This turbo exists only in the Internet. There is NO Official Toyota reference to this turbo in any Toyota Manual, CD Rom, or sales literature- that we have seen, that uses this designation to identify the turbo as installed on the 3SGTE 3rd Generation engines. There is a REAL Toyota CT20 turbo used on the 3TGTE, 4TGTE, and 22RTE engines in the 80’s but this will not bolt on the 3SGTE manifolds.

We have imported and sold many of ALL these engines types. We have ordered and sold many replacement turbos for the 3SGTE 3rd Generation. There is no casting designation identifying these turbos as CT20 or CT20 B. Many shops and individuals continue to sell and modify this turbo without knowing what they are handling. We have given this information to all inquiries for this particular turbo.

There have been many 3SGTE Celica and MR2 owners who have been misled into buying the real CT20 turbo from the older turbo engines. The seller is 100% correct in selling them as such with the casting # to prove so. Shops and individuals who pass the CT20 as upgrade for the 3SGTE- do not know any better. The buyer must be made aware that if they want the real 3SGTE 3RD Generation Turbo- it is not the CT20 or 20B. NO, we have not sold any of the CT20 / 20B as upgrade or update for the 3SGTE engines, despite insistence from many to purchase a CT20 /20B based on misinformation from the internet. In some Toyota literature these 3SGTE 3rd Generation turbos are still referred to as the CT26.

There are actually 2 different 3SGTE 3RD Generation Turbos- #1 as installed in the 1994 - up Celica ST205 and MR2 SW20 vehicles the flange is similar to the CT26 but with a Twin Entry casting and Ceramic impellers; #2 as installed in the Caldina ST215 (and other ST2XX models) including the newest 2004 model Caldina ST246- the turbo center section housing is cast in one piece with the exhaust manifold, also with Ceramic impellers. Again there is no identifying models on this turbo.

Also- the racing “3SGTE” based Toyota racing engines are not 3SGTEs- they are known internally at Toyota as 503- as used in IMSA, Pikes Peak, HKS drag car, and Le Mans. No internal or external parts are interchangeable.

To prevent another controversy and correct widespread misinformation- the Caldina ST 215 (and other ST2XX models) 3SGTE should not and cannot be referred to as 3SGTE 4th Generation . The 4th Generation head supports the VVTi valve set-up and has direct ignition. The block is identical to the 3rd Generation. There is a REAL 4th Generation 3SGE but they were not available with turbo.

Hopefully this will clarify the Turbo identification and the engine designation problems of the 3rd Generation 3SGTE.

Thank you for your attention

Team Toysport

March 4 2002

good enough for me :icon16: .... have to remember that i only just turned 14 and by the time i can drive i will know quite a bit about cars

exactly.

experience. I've been there. But I'm no expert.

talking about things is cool, but sometimes the wrong thing is said, sooner or later that hurts someone or something.

just be careful what you post. Some people don't know any better and take word as gold. That's ultimately their fault, but...

Ok im with you on this 1 you want more power out of your 5sfe get rid of rotating weight lighter drive axels ,drilled slotted rotors ,get rid of un wanted weight ac, rear seat ,thers 2 weights in the front of your car get rid of them. my stock rims,tires weigh 40lbs each get lighter rims ,tire . if your going to race run 3-5 gallons of gas cause each gallon weighs 6.4 lbs so if you have a 20 g includeing reserve if you drop to 5 gallons youl have32lbs of weight weigh your car i did mine weighs 2900 buy regulation scales for truckers .my rims , tires will weigh20-24 pounds top no more so this is an idea talk to a serious dirt trak racer cause theyve done this shit for a while . good luk :smokin:

ok i need the ac and i am keeping my gas tank and the only thing that i am defentially doing that you said to do is get lighter rims an tires but where are the 2 weights in front of the car located

uh... I think he means that the a/c and rear seat... don't know though...

help the engine breath easier and remove excess weight...

There's only so much you can do to it...

good luck

chris

Can I put a 3SGTE engine in my 95 celica st or is there a better engine for the 95 because all I ever here is about the 5th gens not the 6th gens and swaps.

If i said anything wrong sorry im new to car moding.

yes you can...

info can be found here:

http://6gc.net/

Chris

Are you sure thats the site? it wont load for me.

you should get some nice racing stickers and some vinyl decals on the side of your car. and also if you reallllllly want some good performance mods, check out those vicious aluminum spoiler, i heard they add alot of horsepower. oh and also, if u want more power out of your muffler, fast and furious makes muffler tips with led's in them for extra blazingly fast performance

To make it go afster just take the wheels off adds 200+ hp

If you want some decent parts for an ok price go to Unorthodoxracing.com. DO NOT USE WWW!!!

to get some serious hp just drive w/ the hood all the way open, it works as a hood scoop, i could tell a difference! :D

i was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to put a second vvt-i actuator that is on the intake cam and put another on the exhaust cam, will it work? yes/no?