Best performance for the $
90Stangjc
12-21-2003, 09:31 AM
Someone i know just bought a 95' GS Eclipse. Its five-speed, got a body kit, wing, wheels, all that good stuff. Its a pretty sharp car. Anyway, he asked me what the best performace part he could buy for the buck. I have no idea because i've never had an eclipse. So i came in here to ask the people that know, any info on the best "bang for the buck" for that car would be appreciated. Thanks
Afrokid
12-21-2003, 01:43 PM
K&N Generation 2 Fuel Injection Performance Kit - $120
EVO III Big 16G Turbo - $650
Turbo X’s Boost Controller- $100
those items should boost your performance quite a bit.
http://dsmtuners.com
http://www.ardperformance.com/
http://www.dsmparts.com/
those sites will offer all of what u need to make your DSM the sh!t
EVO III Big 16G Turbo - $650
Turbo X’s Boost Controller- $100
those items should boost your performance quite a bit.
http://dsmtuners.com
http://www.ardperformance.com/
http://www.dsmparts.com/
those sites will offer all of what u need to make your DSM the sh!t
duckydsp
12-21-2003, 02:38 PM
K&N Generation 2 Fuel Injection Performance Kit - $120
EVO III Big 16G Turbo - $650
Turbo X’s Boost Controller- $100
those items should boost your performance quite a bit.
http://dsmtuners.com
http://www.ardperformance.com/
http://www.dsmparts.com/
those sites will offer all of what u need to make your DSM the sh!t
His car is a gs. He doesn't have the turbo unless he forgot to mention it. Get an intake, exhuast, strut bars, new sparks, and short shifter. This could be done for well under $1000
EVO III Big 16G Turbo - $650
Turbo X’s Boost Controller- $100
those items should boost your performance quite a bit.
http://dsmtuners.com
http://www.ardperformance.com/
http://www.dsmparts.com/
those sites will offer all of what u need to make your DSM the sh!t
His car is a gs. He doesn't have the turbo unless he forgot to mention it. Get an intake, exhuast, strut bars, new sparks, and short shifter. This could be done for well under $1000
90Stangjc
12-21-2003, 06:38 PM
ok i'll tell him that, thanks.
NeonblueEclipse
12-21-2003, 06:57 PM
i think afrokid has turbo on the brain
not that its a bad thing lol
not that its a bad thing lol
snickers
12-21-2003, 06:58 PM
"best bang for the buck" are gsx or tsi. The n/a is not quick or will ever be fast. Sell it and get a turbo. Or tell him to buy a turbo kit.
BoostedSpyder
12-21-2003, 07:14 PM
ya, i know a guy that has a gs... cams, cam gears, header, exaust, intake, short shifter, and a mess of other little things... begging to get into the 14's... not low, just into... luv the turbo...
EclipseRST
12-21-2003, 07:29 PM
ya, i know a guy that has a RS... valves, cams, cam gears, exhaust, pistons, rods, and a mess of other things and he is begging to get into the 12's, high 12's that is... wait thats me :iceslolan
goalieman24
12-22-2003, 01:08 PM
ya, i know a guy that has a RS... valves, cams, cam gears, exhaust, pistons, rods, and a mess of other things and he is begging to get into the 12's, high 12's that is... wait thats me :iceslolan
hahaha owned :lol:
also i hate to say it but nitrous will get you movin for not a lot of cash. dont like it but for some people they do
hahaha owned :lol:
also i hate to say it but nitrous will get you movin for not a lot of cash. dont like it but for some people they do
Afrokid
12-22-2003, 07:34 PM
oops sorry...lets see..uhh...im pretty sure Hann has pretty good systems for non turbo charged cars to make them turbo charged. Sure it will cost u around 3,000 bucks but its well worth it. but honestly, GS arn't performance cars, sell it and buy a TSI or GST - GSX.
goalieman24
12-23-2003, 12:03 AM
some people that actually pay for their cars and insurance themselves go for the non turbo b/c they are cheaper on both. im not saying that you dont(although it might be possible) but saying to get the tsi/gst/gsx isnt always a possibility. and someone that just bought their car isnt really going to want to hear "sell it and get something else"
amdsoldier
12-23-2003, 02:17 AM
some people that actually pay for their cars and insurance themselves go for the non turbo b/c they are cheaper on both. im not saying that you dont(although it might be possible) but saying to get the tsi/gst/gsx isnt always a possibility. and someone that just bought their car isnt really going to want to hear "sell it and get something else"
word!
I bought my RS because it has a $12,000 stereo system, and a load of other crap that I couldn't have got if I were to even pay more and buy a GST/GSX.
But yeah I'm also looking to upgrade it's performance now.
EclipseRST,
How much did that engine upgrade cost you would you say? I'm a n00bie to cars in general, but willing to learn. I'd like to upgrade the engine components for now and maybe later put on a turbo, but if the engine will be strong enough as it is, I may not even need one.
But $$$ is a strong factor, like so far these are the upgrades that I have done/doing/will do:
AEM V2 intake $190
OBX 10.3mm spark plug wires $46
NGK iridium spark plugs $27
OBX 4-1 headers $200
OBX exhaust $325
front struct bar (came installed)
So thats pretty much it so far, pretty simple stuff I think. But already it's costing me a lot, + I will need about $1,000-1,500 for rims/tires by spring/early summer.
But yeah I was thinking of getting internals like you have, but don't really know how much it costs or how much labor involved.
Also I really don't like how the car handles, that is in turns. Pretty bad in my opinion, I was thinking of going with sway bars for the rear. A guy on ebay has them for the RS + the kit needed for $150 starting price + shipping (that a deal?).
word!
I bought my RS because it has a $12,000 stereo system, and a load of other crap that I couldn't have got if I were to even pay more and buy a GST/GSX.
But yeah I'm also looking to upgrade it's performance now.
EclipseRST,
How much did that engine upgrade cost you would you say? I'm a n00bie to cars in general, but willing to learn. I'd like to upgrade the engine components for now and maybe later put on a turbo, but if the engine will be strong enough as it is, I may not even need one.
But $$$ is a strong factor, like so far these are the upgrades that I have done/doing/will do:
AEM V2 intake $190
OBX 10.3mm spark plug wires $46
NGK iridium spark plugs $27
OBX 4-1 headers $200
OBX exhaust $325
front struct bar (came installed)
So thats pretty much it so far, pretty simple stuff I think. But already it's costing me a lot, + I will need about $1,000-1,500 for rims/tires by spring/early summer.
But yeah I was thinking of getting internals like you have, but don't really know how much it costs or how much labor involved.
Also I really don't like how the car handles, that is in turns. Pretty bad in my opinion, I was thinking of going with sway bars for the rear. A guy on ebay has them for the RS + the kit needed for $150 starting price + shipping (that a deal?).
EclipseRST
12-23-2003, 12:35 PM
word!
I bought my RS because it has a $12,000 stereo system, and a load of other crap that I couldn't have got if I were to even pay more and buy a GST/GSX.
But yeah I'm also looking to upgrade it's performance now.
EclipseRST,
How much did that engine upgrade cost you would you say? I'm a n00bie to cars in general, but willing to learn. I'd like to upgrade the engine components for now and maybe later put on a turbo, but if the engine will be strong enough as it is, I may not even need one.
But $$$ is a strong factor, like so far these are the upgrades that I have done/doing/will do:
AEM V2 intake $190
OBX 10.3mm spark plug wires $46
NGK iridium spark plugs $27
OBX 4-1 headers $200
OBX exhaust $325
front struct bar (came installed)
So thats pretty much it so far, pretty simple stuff I think. But already it's costing me a lot, + I will need about $1,000-1,500 for rims/tires by spring/early summer.
But yeah I was thinking of getting internals like you have, but don't really know how much it costs or how much labor involved.
Also I really don't like how the car handles, that is in turns. Pretty bad in my opinion, I was thinking of going with sway bars for the rear. A guy on ebay has them for the RS + the kit needed for $150 starting price + shipping (that a deal?).
yea you probably will see a nice increase in power with those mods but no more than 50hp i wouldnt think, and as for the internals and turbo setup i have about $4500-5000 into my engine, thats including the money to EPROM my ECU and get DSMlink that i plan to buy next week... well if you have any other questions let me know, i'd be glad to help, good luck
I bought my RS because it has a $12,000 stereo system, and a load of other crap that I couldn't have got if I were to even pay more and buy a GST/GSX.
But yeah I'm also looking to upgrade it's performance now.
EclipseRST,
How much did that engine upgrade cost you would you say? I'm a n00bie to cars in general, but willing to learn. I'd like to upgrade the engine components for now and maybe later put on a turbo, but if the engine will be strong enough as it is, I may not even need one.
But $$$ is a strong factor, like so far these are the upgrades that I have done/doing/will do:
AEM V2 intake $190
OBX 10.3mm spark plug wires $46
NGK iridium spark plugs $27
OBX 4-1 headers $200
OBX exhaust $325
front struct bar (came installed)
So thats pretty much it so far, pretty simple stuff I think. But already it's costing me a lot, + I will need about $1,000-1,500 for rims/tires by spring/early summer.
But yeah I was thinking of getting internals like you have, but don't really know how much it costs or how much labor involved.
Also I really don't like how the car handles, that is in turns. Pretty bad in my opinion, I was thinking of going with sway bars for the rear. A guy on ebay has them for the RS + the kit needed for $150 starting price + shipping (that a deal?).
yea you probably will see a nice increase in power with those mods but no more than 50hp i wouldnt think, and as for the internals and turbo setup i have about $4500-5000 into my engine, thats including the money to EPROM my ECU and get DSMlink that i plan to buy next week... well if you have any other questions let me know, i'd be glad to help, good luck
rambur
12-23-2003, 01:53 PM
Best band-for-buck performance would be to remove the wind-resisting, weight-adding body kit and wing. IMO, anyway. :)
BoostedSpyder
12-23-2003, 03:13 PM
ya, i know a guy that has a RS... valves, cams, cam gears, exhaust, pistons, rods, and a mess of other things and he is begging to get into the 12's, high 12's that is... wait thats me :iceslolan
funny you say that... the guy i know isn't willing to part with all the components he has already bought to turbo his ride... and good luck on your quest into the 12's... :)
funny you say that... the guy i know isn't willing to part with all the components he has already bought to turbo his ride... and good luck on your quest into the 12's... :)
Afrokid
12-23-2003, 07:31 PM
go with K&N for the intake, they dino more then the v2. also the v2 application only makes around 10 - 15 additional hp while a k&n system can makeup to 25. it also cost ALOT LESS
goalieman24
12-23-2003, 10:10 PM
have you seen these dyno charts for the eclipse showing the 25hp gain?
Afrokid
12-25-2003, 11:18 AM
goalieman24
12-25-2003, 09:03 PM
and where might the dyno chart be?
amdsoldier
12-26-2003, 02:30 AM
Afrokid,
Seriously how can you believe that? There is no way that an filter can add 25HP. Thats just stupid talk.
EclipseRST,
Thanks for replying, wow I didn't realize though that those components can add up that much (ie cost).
What upgrades would you recommend in order would you say after the ones I listed?
I was thinking the next thing to do would be getting a short shifter, pulley (wonder if this really works, about 8lb difference I believe...) and some cam gears. Other than that I can't think of anything pretty simple not too expensive to upgrade at the moment. :D
Seriously how can you believe that? There is no way that an filter can add 25HP. Thats just stupid talk.
EclipseRST,
Thanks for replying, wow I didn't realize though that those components can add up that much (ie cost).
What upgrades would you recommend in order would you say after the ones I listed?
I was thinking the next thing to do would be getting a short shifter, pulley (wonder if this really works, about 8lb difference I believe...) and some cam gears. Other than that I can't think of anything pretty simple not too expensive to upgrade at the moment. :D
EclipseRST
12-26-2003, 05:53 AM
EclipseRST,
Thanks for replying, wow I didn't realize though that those components can add up that much (ie cost).
What upgrades would you recommend in order would you say after the ones I listed?
I was thinking the next thing to do would be getting a short shifter, pulley (wonder if this really works, about 8lb difference I believe...) and some cam gears. Other than that I can't think of anything pretty simple not too expensive to upgrade at the moment. :D
yea i would definatly do a CAI of some sort, it really doesnt matter what kind, underdrive pullies do add some power but not much - ok when adding performance upgrades you cant expect much from one upgrade like the underdrive pullies...exspecially when modding a 420a, you will need to add a few upgrades before you will actually feel a difference in your cars power, i would suggest getting a new coil pack (the block that your plug wires go into on top of the valve cover - just incase you didnt know what it was) get some new wires and plugs... all that should be about a $100-125 dollars, get the underdrive pullies - somewhere around $150 where how much mine were... an aluminum flywheel would help add power - you can find one for about $200... for the CAI, depending on if you make your own or buy a name brand one - from about $30 for home made to $180-200 for name brand. now with all that you can be pretty close to seeing about 30hp gain... now it doesnt see much for the price but if you want an easier way for a little more, make the home made CAI, about $30 and you could get a walbro 190lph fuel pump for about $75 and get the stock 450cc injectors from a 4g63 for around $50-75, that will upgrade your fuel system enough to get a nitrous kit, i would suggest a 50-75 shot zex wet kit... brand new for about $450-500 off ebay - thats where i got most of the prices from! and with the upgraded fuel system and the nitrous you could see up to 75hp, now thats double the hp for a little more money if not the same price...now if you do all of the above for a little over a grand, you could be seeing about 100hp added to your car, now remember (and this is for all of you that are goin to say yea right 100hp - BULLSHIT!) thats at the crank, so you will probably see about 65-70whp!
now if you would have gotten a GST or GSX, for a little over a grand you could running low 13s! :p remember that!!!
Thanks for replying, wow I didn't realize though that those components can add up that much (ie cost).
What upgrades would you recommend in order would you say after the ones I listed?
I was thinking the next thing to do would be getting a short shifter, pulley (wonder if this really works, about 8lb difference I believe...) and some cam gears. Other than that I can't think of anything pretty simple not too expensive to upgrade at the moment. :D
yea i would definatly do a CAI of some sort, it really doesnt matter what kind, underdrive pullies do add some power but not much - ok when adding performance upgrades you cant expect much from one upgrade like the underdrive pullies...exspecially when modding a 420a, you will need to add a few upgrades before you will actually feel a difference in your cars power, i would suggest getting a new coil pack (the block that your plug wires go into on top of the valve cover - just incase you didnt know what it was) get some new wires and plugs... all that should be about a $100-125 dollars, get the underdrive pullies - somewhere around $150 where how much mine were... an aluminum flywheel would help add power - you can find one for about $200... for the CAI, depending on if you make your own or buy a name brand one - from about $30 for home made to $180-200 for name brand. now with all that you can be pretty close to seeing about 30hp gain... now it doesnt see much for the price but if you want an easier way for a little more, make the home made CAI, about $30 and you could get a walbro 190lph fuel pump for about $75 and get the stock 450cc injectors from a 4g63 for around $50-75, that will upgrade your fuel system enough to get a nitrous kit, i would suggest a 50-75 shot zex wet kit... brand new for about $450-500 off ebay - thats where i got most of the prices from! and with the upgraded fuel system and the nitrous you could see up to 75hp, now thats double the hp for a little more money if not the same price...now if you do all of the above for a little over a grand, you could be seeing about 100hp added to your car, now remember (and this is for all of you that are goin to say yea right 100hp - BULLSHIT!) thats at the crank, so you will probably see about 65-70whp!
now if you would have gotten a GST or GSX, for a little over a grand you could running low 13s! :p remember that!!!
99JLEclipse
02-25-2005, 12:43 AM
With the 420 motor in the Eclipse. I suggest first doing your exhaust work. Then some Fuel Work like this
Catback Exhaust, High Flow Cat, Header, Intake Manifold, Intake, Throttle Body, Fuel Rail, Fuel Regulator, Fuel Pump, Injectors. With this stuff you will be decently quick. Another thing that will help you out alot is the Venmon 400 Chip. Also with the above stuff get spark plugs and wires. This is just what I think I am not an expert.
Catback Exhaust, High Flow Cat, Header, Intake Manifold, Intake, Throttle Body, Fuel Rail, Fuel Regulator, Fuel Pump, Injectors. With this stuff you will be decently quick. Another thing that will help you out alot is the Venmon 400 Chip. Also with the above stuff get spark plugs and wires. This is just what I think I am not an expert.
EclipseRST
02-25-2005, 01:58 AM
This is over 2 years old... Look at the date next time before you post. Make sure it isnt older than a month or so unless you have a question that was not answered and pertains to something covered in this thread.
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dsmodder
02-28-2005, 06:42 PM
short throw would be frist on my list
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