why not in america......
carbillegal
12-21-2003, 04:27 AM
i sit back and i watch another world rally go to peugeot ....... then i take a drive in my civic and get reved on at every light by some gay mustang or integra...... while these cars can't know the fury i am about to release on them they also don't relize the fear i have of an a6 audi on a slolem corse... dispite the many nay says i would recive for hanging up my honda keys.... i would do so in a secound for a nice turbo awd peugeot....even if i have a hard time spelling the name... why aren't thy imported ........
Stefanel1
12-23-2003, 07:26 AM
Since 1992 and the 505 and 405, Peugeots are not any more imported. Many reasons of that.
Now, Peugeot (you can phone me if you want to pronounce it correctly :D) would be available in North America in 2009. The 407 and 607 will be the first cars imported, then the 207 (206 is already 5 years old) and 308.
This is not sure, but Peugeot S.A. is a quite secretive company, so.... ;) But we know that some new Peugeot and Citroën are made considering the American norms (contrary to the current range).
One thing possible would be to buy a Peugeot in Mexico which is not far from the USA. But, I don't know how to do to make it ok for the American laws/norms. But in this case, it would be expensive : a 206 RC 180hp cost about 25 000 €in Europe (USD29 000), add at least USD 2 500 to import it, without forgetting problems of homologation ! ;)
Now, Peugeot (you can phone me if you want to pronounce it correctly :D) would be available in North America in 2009. The 407 and 607 will be the first cars imported, then the 207 (206 is already 5 years old) and 308.
This is not sure, but Peugeot S.A. is a quite secretive company, so.... ;) But we know that some new Peugeot and Citroën are made considering the American norms (contrary to the current range).
One thing possible would be to buy a Peugeot in Mexico which is not far from the USA. But, I don't know how to do to make it ok for the American laws/norms. But in this case, it would be expensive : a 206 RC 180hp cost about 25 000 €in Europe (USD29 000), add at least USD 2 500 to import it, without forgetting problems of homologation ! ;)
¿que es un fr?
04-26-2004, 10:47 PM
peugeot vs honda civic??? you are crazy, i have two peugeots, 206 and 306, and the cars are for city and do a lot of kilometers but not spending a lot of money in diesel. the civic(probably nissan and honda made the best engines) is best car than peugeot, i want a civic but is a lot expensive.
lot of kisses since villapun, palencia, spain.
lot of kisses since villapun, palencia, spain.
Hudson
05-03-2004, 10:19 PM
You cannot import a car from Mexico to the US. Additionally, Peugeot wont' return to the US before 2010, if at all. There are no definite plans for a re-entry at this time, but there have been discussions for about a decade. Just don't count on it.
DaviX
05-12-2004, 06:44 AM
when talking about the Peugeot(talbot) Citroen Concern you seldom talk about 0-100 engineering nor 1/4 mile times, the french concern is well known for his great road-acting cars, which will allow you, to take your turns at much higher rates than all the japan/korean imported cars.
Nontheless you can improve you P/C car in many ways, e.g. in the 205s you can implant an M.i.16
or a T16, in some TU cars you can easily use a 1.6 block and turbo charge it.
It will cost you much, but you'll get the living hell o funn out of it.
I am the owners of a Peugeot 106 Rallye Mk1 (1996) and i'm very impressed by it's behavior and steering, the wheel talk is really perfect, and the suspension and chassis is amazing even at stock.
I soon enough hope to implant a1.6 block instead of my 1.3 (1.3-103HP 1.6-105HP stock both 8 valves) and turbocharge it.
Nontheless you can improve you P/C car in many ways, e.g. in the 205s you can implant an M.i.16
or a T16, in some TU cars you can easily use a 1.6 block and turbo charge it.
It will cost you much, but you'll get the living hell o funn out of it.
I am the owners of a Peugeot 106 Rallye Mk1 (1996) and i'm very impressed by it's behavior and steering, the wheel talk is really perfect, and the suspension and chassis is amazing even at stock.
I soon enough hope to implant a1.6 block instead of my 1.3 (1.3-103HP 1.6-105HP stock both 8 valves) and turbocharge it.
geoleo68
07-17-2004, 03:03 PM
You cannot import a car from Mexico to the US. Additionally, Peugeot wont' return to the US before 2010, if at all. There are no definite plans for a re-entry at this time, but there have been discussions for about a decade. Just don't count on it.
You gotta be kidding... OF COURSE YOU CAN ! ! !
NAFTA just kicked in January 2004 with no import tax on any vehicles made with at least 66% parts and labour made in Canada USA And/Or Mexico. Just to illustrate, a car built in Mexico with an engine built in US is exempt, but a car built in US with a Japanese engine isn't exempt.
Here in Mexico we can now import any car built in the US or Canada with less than 1,000 kms. and NAFTA origin of certificate with no import tax. The same goes for cars made in Mexico going into the US. The problem is Peugeot hasn't started production in Mexico, which they will probably will sometime in the future. That would be the first step to have their cars in he US market. And due to local taxes Cars in Mexico are quite more expensive than in the US. Just as an example a Honda Accord EX-V6 with leather interior in Mexico with all local taxes runs for $310,000 pesos (at an exchange rate of 11.50 is $27,000 USDollars) the same car could probably run under $24,000 in most dealerships in the US plus taxes, which won't be over a 10% in many states (TX has an 8.25% or so in sales tax plus a new car tax).
Regarding emmision control and safety, most specifications are now the same in Mexico as they are in many states in the US. Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas states that share border with Texas have the same emitions requirments in all vehicles as Texas.
GeoLeo68
Viviendo la vida alegre en México.
You gotta be kidding... OF COURSE YOU CAN ! ! !
NAFTA just kicked in January 2004 with no import tax on any vehicles made with at least 66% parts and labour made in Canada USA And/Or Mexico. Just to illustrate, a car built in Mexico with an engine built in US is exempt, but a car built in US with a Japanese engine isn't exempt.
Here in Mexico we can now import any car built in the US or Canada with less than 1,000 kms. and NAFTA origin of certificate with no import tax. The same goes for cars made in Mexico going into the US. The problem is Peugeot hasn't started production in Mexico, which they will probably will sometime in the future. That would be the first step to have their cars in he US market. And due to local taxes Cars in Mexico are quite more expensive than in the US. Just as an example a Honda Accord EX-V6 with leather interior in Mexico with all local taxes runs for $310,000 pesos (at an exchange rate of 11.50 is $27,000 USDollars) the same car could probably run under $24,000 in most dealerships in the US plus taxes, which won't be over a 10% in many states (TX has an 8.25% or so in sales tax plus a new car tax).
Regarding emmision control and safety, most specifications are now the same in Mexico as they are in many states in the US. Nuevo Leon and Tamaulipas states that share border with Texas have the same emitions requirments in all vehicles as Texas.
GeoLeo68
Viviendo la vida alegre en México.
MikeLee2484
07-20-2004, 11:23 PM
i believe that peugeot was trying to make a push into the US market about a year and a half ago...i remember seeing ads in magazines and such...and if you remember that time was a time that the french were not so nice to americans...and there was a bitter taste in our mouths about anything french...this is all just a hypothesis for what ive gathered...but i think they looked at it as a bad time to come back to america...i cant see why they wouldnt want to open up the US market...but i dont think it was a good time...but just give it time...i feel that some of their styles need to change before they make over here...cause theyre too...well...european for americans...again...thats just what i think
Stefanel1
08-01-2004, 09:41 AM
Peugeot and Citroën are definitely not American styled. For sure. But BMW, Audi , Volkswagen, etc. are not more american. And these makes sell well in the USA.
I think that right now, we should look at Renault. Indeed, their links with Nissan are strong and the Japanese car maker is deeply rooted on the american market. Renault design is quite new and that could be a good thing in the USA (Espace, Mégane II, Modus, Avantime, etc.).
For PSA, they have had a branch in New York which was studing an "american Peugeot 407". But they stopped the project for a certain time because the invests are very important and the risks too. PSA (Peugeot Citroën S.A.) is known as a quite careful firm. So they prefer to invest and progress in Asia (China), in India, in Russia, South America and Eastern Europe. But as they are increasing their market shares and as they are second automotive group in Europe (behind VAG), they have the money to eventually invest in the USA. We'll see !
I think that right now, we should look at Renault. Indeed, their links with Nissan are strong and the Japanese car maker is deeply rooted on the american market. Renault design is quite new and that could be a good thing in the USA (Espace, Mégane II, Modus, Avantime, etc.).
For PSA, they have had a branch in New York which was studing an "american Peugeot 407". But they stopped the project for a certain time because the invests are very important and the risks too. PSA (Peugeot Citroën S.A.) is known as a quite careful firm. So they prefer to invest and progress in Asia (China), in India, in Russia, South America and Eastern Europe. But as they are increasing their market shares and as they are second automotive group in Europe (behind VAG), they have the money to eventually invest in the USA. We'll see !
tanirdriver
10-04-2004, 07:10 PM
"I think that right now, we should look at Renault. Indeed, their links with Nissan are strong and the Japanese car maker is deeply rooted on the american market. Renault design is quite new and that could be a good thing in the USA (Espace, Mégane II, Modus, Avantime, etc.)."
The problem is that they would need to develop a 4-door version of their Laguna mid-level car because Americans usually don't like liftbacks.
OK for the Espace and the Mégane, but the Avantime has been discontinued and I wouldn't like to impose a car as small and ridiculous as the Modus (or as ugly as the Vel Satis) to Americans.
On the other hand I wouldn't like Americans to drive good-looking Renault and Citroën sedans while we have to cope with ugly liftback versions of these cars. I like VW's policy because the Passats sold in Europe look as nice as those sold in the USA.
"For PSA, they have had a branch in New York which was studing an "american Peugeot 407". But they stopped the project for a certain time because the invests are very important and the risks too. PSA (Peugeot Citroën S.A.) is known as a quite careful firm. So they prefer to invest and progress in Asia (China), in India, in Russia, South America"
Oh yeah! How clever! Markets which have been promising for ages and which will go on being promising for ages...and ages... ;-)
Regards,
Tanir
The problem is that they would need to develop a 4-door version of their Laguna mid-level car because Americans usually don't like liftbacks.
OK for the Espace and the Mégane, but the Avantime has been discontinued and I wouldn't like to impose a car as small and ridiculous as the Modus (or as ugly as the Vel Satis) to Americans.
On the other hand I wouldn't like Americans to drive good-looking Renault and Citroën sedans while we have to cope with ugly liftback versions of these cars. I like VW's policy because the Passats sold in Europe look as nice as those sold in the USA.
"For PSA, they have had a branch in New York which was studing an "american Peugeot 407". But they stopped the project for a certain time because the invests are very important and the risks too. PSA (Peugeot Citroën S.A.) is known as a quite careful firm. So they prefer to invest and progress in Asia (China), in India, in Russia, South America"
Oh yeah! How clever! Markets which have been promising for ages and which will go on being promising for ages...and ages... ;-)
Regards,
Tanir
Jaguar D-Type
02-10-2006, 06:27 PM
i sit back and i watch another world rally go to peugeot
Today's WRC cars are far different than production cars.
http://motorsport.com/photos/wrc/2005/arg/wrc-2005-arg-tm-0223.jpg
Today's WRC cars are far different than production cars.
http://motorsport.com/photos/wrc/2005/arg/wrc-2005-arg-tm-0223.jpg
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