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Speed Racer
12-20-2003, 06:23 PM
What is the best engine that can be dropped into a 3rd gen 3000GT? Engine mount,linkages,and wiring can be done so don't worry about those. I don't want to have to rebuild the engine bay in any way. Maybe removing the a/c, heater, and battery, with another place to move it to that is. :evillol:

Speed Racer
12-21-2003, 01:37 PM
Is anyone going to help me here? :sly:

talskinyguy
12-21-2003, 08:00 PM
mopar 460

ikOnone
12-22-2003, 09:10 PM
mopar 460
rotflmao

yea, um the factory dropped the best engine in there, trying any other engine would be a waste of money unless your goal was to spend way too much money to get some other engine in there.

this is not a honda civic or some domestic that can handle other engines (i do not know much about swapping to bigger block engines in domestics so i will focus on hondas in this discussion). civics and some other hondas are popular because many of the engines are easy to swap parts in so you can put a prelude or integra or some other ingine in it. a VR-4 engine is better than all of these allready and it does not share the same swapability with other engines like the hondas. what i am trying to say is swaping an engine is not how you gain power generally with these cars. unless you have a base or sl and you swap in a vr-4 engine or just do the necessary changes to your current 6g72 (change compression, stronger internals, turbos, intercoolers, pipeing, fuel, ecu, etc).

if you want more power, go bpu, on a vr-4 that can get you upwards of 100 hp extra. still want more, well bigger turbos and fuel system and some piggy back computers are the way to go. want to break reckords, build the engine with stronger internals, get massive amounts of head work done, get huge turbos and a suitable fuel system, get a standalone ecu, gut the car, get suspension upgrades, get a lsd, get a cfds, get lots of cf body panels... etc. no engine swapping required.

talskinyguy
12-23-2003, 12:58 AM
i wasnt joking, that is the biggest v8 that has been sucesfully fit under the hood so far. small blocks fit pretty easy, but then you are basicly a camaro with 3000gt looks.

ikOnone
12-23-2003, 02:34 AM
i wasnt joking, that is the biggest v8 that has been sucesfully fit under the hood so far. small blocks fit pretty easy, but then you are basicly a camaro with 3000gt looks.


transversly mounted??? who did this and why? i guess i was misinformed. how the hell did they match it up to the tranny etc? the 6g72 is CRAMMED in there as it is i could not see putting something else in there being a very good way to go because of all the issues that would also have to be delt with, i would think that just working on the current engine would be a lot more benificial and cost effective. i have been on 3si for years and i never heard of this. not doubting, anything is possible, but i would like to see what they did.

talskinyguy
12-23-2003, 11:42 AM
i guess i should give more detail. any time a v8 is put in a 3000gt its turned into a RWD car and it uses a different transmition and a different rear differential(generally a solid axel).

the honda boys you speak of swap the engine along with the transaxel, so its basicly the same thing, except a hell of a lot easyer.

Speed Racer
12-23-2003, 01:57 PM
Thanks you guys. Hey , me and abuddy were arguing about something I was hoping you cuold help us with. Can you get an AWD system into a 3000GT, and if you can does the engine link up exactly to it? Just curious. :evillol:

ikOnone
12-23-2003, 02:39 PM
Can you get an AWD system into a 3000GT, and if you can does the engine link up exactly to it? Just curious. :evillol:

what do you mean with a V8 because the VR-4 is true AWD stock. i would imagine that it would be wholey hell to do it with a V8 because i would not think that you could mount any v8 up to the stock tranny etc (well anything is possible but withen reason). also i have heard from those who have done it that switching a FWD 3/S to an AWD is a real pain, not just the parts but you have to cut into the car and stuff too.

i guess i should give more detail. any time a v8 is put in a 3000gt its turned into a RWD car and it uses a different transmition and a different rear differential(generally a solid axel).

yes keep the detail coming :p that sounds a lot easier than hooking one up to the stock drivetrain but still sounds like a big pain for a relativly little gain. do you have any links to the guy who did this? how did it turn out? i am assuming that if he kept it boosted he had to redo the entire turbo/intercooler/pipeing system right? along with alot of the cooling system and the electrical system and a ton of other things right?

also help me out here because i am a dumbass with big block domestic engines, what i am thinking it 460 means 460 cu. in. right?

so i thought (460 in^3) x (2.54^3 cm^3/ 1 in^3) x (1 ml/ 1 cm^3) x (1 L/ 1000 ml) = about 7.54 L.... big a$$ engine but what kind of power does that produce?

YogsVR4
12-23-2003, 04:09 PM
The only one of these cars I've seen with a V8 was one where the body of the 3000 was dropped on the chassy of another car. The only thing 3000 about it was its skin.

Speed Racer
12-23-2003, 05:33 PM
Thanks. So the V8 will hook up to the stock AWD system. HMM???? I just won $10 bucks thanks. :evillol:

ikOnone
12-23-2003, 06:18 PM
Thanks. So the V8 will hook up to the stock AWD system. HMM???? I just won $10 bucks thanks. :evillol:


i guess you did not understand what i said. you asked if you could get an AWD system into a 3kgt. the answer to that is yes it comes stock with AWD on the VR-4 models. that is like asking if you can make a RWD camero, see what i mean?

i was confused though because i thought that you would know that a 3k VR-4 has AWD stock so i was asking if you ment to ask if you could bolt a V8 to the stock tranny etc of a 3k. i guess the long answer to that is sure you can, you could also be the first person to fly a 3k to the moon if you really want, all of this is possible but the rediculous amount of custom work and fabrication that you would have to do would make it a really dumb idea.

now, one gou said that you could hook up a big block v8 to the drive line that it was ment to go with and do some custom work to get it all in there. it seems to me like this would be very hard to do as well and not worth the time money and effort but again it is possible. i am not sure if you could do it without cutting and relocating the firewall or other parts of the body and frame.

now finally, yogs has said that none of this has been done but someone has put a 3kgt body on another chassy with a v8. this seems like it would probably be the easiest way to do it but again it seems like a really pointless wasteful thing to do. i digress, if that is your goal for some strange reason, yes then it makes sense, but if all you want is the power of the v8, it is probably 1000 times easier, cheaper, and more reliable to just work with the stock engine.

now i have never seen any of these v8 3kgt's that everyone is talking about, i think i might have heard about the one that yogs is talking about, but i still think it is stupid and i would have to see it to believe it.

talskinyguy
12-24-2003, 03:15 AM
one of the small bock v8's was a stealth looking body(kinda how a nascar works, all sheetmetal) body on a f-body chassis, the 460 was crammed into a 3000gt and the guy is currently working on getting the stock gauges to work with the new engine and drivetrain. Its basicly an american muscal car in disguse.

YogsVR4
12-24-2003, 01:24 PM
one of the small bock v8's was a stealth looking body(kinda how a nascar works, all sheetmetal) body on a f-body chassis, the 460 was crammed into a 3000gt and the guy is currently working on getting the stock gauges to work with the new engine and drivetrain. Its basicly an american muscal car in disguse.

While I think that is a crazy thing to try and do, it is that guys money. I wish that guy would post his progress along with pics on the web.

Speed Racer
12-24-2003, 11:16 PM
Bye-Bye Guys. I have moved on to a different thread. :evillol:

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