MURDER/street racing?
Miataracer
12-18-2003, 07:35 PM
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=138866&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
I found this on my local area forum... how terrible, I can't even imagine how this guy must feel. READ THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE YOU JUDGE!
I found this on my local area forum... how terrible, I can't even imagine how this guy must feel. READ THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE YOU JUDGE!
99civic03
12-18-2003, 07:47 PM
Yikes. When I saw your thread title, I was thinking it was gonna be something different, but this really isnt too much better. Is it murder if you flee the scene? I feel bad for that guy.
Miataracer
12-18-2003, 07:55 PM
you didn't read the whole thing did you?
Miataracer
12-18-2003, 07:58 PM
quoted from the 4th page of the post:
"actually he is going to be charged with homicide, I just watched the video, the mustang driver ran my brother off the road deliberatly, he hit his car three times before he sent him off the road, my brother wasnt racing him he was trying to get away from him it still unclear why he was going after my brother, the tape shows my brother coming down the highway hauling ass down the left lane, then you see the mustang coming hard after him right on his ass, my brother switches to the right lane because of a car in his lane and the mustang rams him and sends him onto the shoulder but he comes back on trying to speed up, the mustang hits him again and my brother swerves hard but regains, the mustang comes up along his right rear quarter panel and swerves hard left like the cops do and spins my borthers car completly around, the car spins towards the pillar and hits it directly on the drivers side. Yes I just watched my brother get murdered."
"actually he is going to be charged with homicide, I just watched the video, the mustang driver ran my brother off the road deliberatly, he hit his car three times before he sent him off the road, my brother wasnt racing him he was trying to get away from him it still unclear why he was going after my brother, the tape shows my brother coming down the highway hauling ass down the left lane, then you see the mustang coming hard after him right on his ass, my brother switches to the right lane because of a car in his lane and the mustang rams him and sends him onto the shoulder but he comes back on trying to speed up, the mustang hits him again and my brother swerves hard but regains, the mustang comes up along his right rear quarter panel and swerves hard left like the cops do and spins my borthers car completly around, the car spins towards the pillar and hits it directly on the drivers side. Yes I just watched my brother get murdered."
99civic03
12-18-2003, 08:01 PM
Oh shit you meant read the whole 9 pages?! I was thinkin you just meant the whole post. But damn...I feel even worse for the guy...but I wanna know what the hell they were doing, and why the Mustang was tryin to run the guy off the road
Miataracer
12-18-2003, 08:13 PM
yeah I know... I can't imagine what would drive someone to do a thing like that
unusualcivic
12-18-2003, 08:52 PM
i read the entire thread. uhm, all i can say is wow. it brings light to a different perspective. my heartfelt condolances truly go out to him.
R.I.P. :crying:
R.I.P. :crying:
carrrnuttt
12-18-2003, 08:56 PM
DAMN...so sad...
If it were me, I'd probably be the one going to jail...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/mad.gif
If it were me, I'd probably be the one going to jail...http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/images/smilies/mad.gif
ghost94
12-18-2003, 09:22 PM
shits deffinately scarry!
feel horrible for the guy who lost his bro!
wish years of warm nights with BUBBA in jail to the mustang driver
Road rage brings out the worst in people.
- need to think as you dip through traffic, someone might have just gone over the edge
-Dont end up the target of someones rage b/c your in a hurry
use your heads out there and be careful
peace I'm out
b.t.w.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS
feel horrible for the guy who lost his bro!
wish years of warm nights with BUBBA in jail to the mustang driver
Road rage brings out the worst in people.
- need to think as you dip through traffic, someone might have just gone over the edge
-Dont end up the target of someones rage b/c your in a hurry
use your heads out there and be careful
peace I'm out
b.t.w.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS
whtteg
12-18-2003, 10:16 PM
That is truely a very horrible situation to be in. The guy had to watch a video of his brothers last moments and then his death. Tha has to be soo hard to do. I think he is one hell of a good guy and brother to not do anything harsgh and let the cops handle it. I know it had to be tha hardest thing in the world for him to do though. I cannot imagine being in his position.
Hopefully we can learn from this and drive a little safer and try not to provoke road rage (not saying that the guy there did) you never know when that could happen to you.
Hopefully we can learn from this and drive a little safer and try not to provoke road rage (not saying that the guy there did) you never know when that could happen to you.
Miataracer
12-18-2003, 10:20 PM
I don't know if anyone has taken the time to read through the posts in the link I listed but also his mother and father are dead so it sounds like it is just him left now... I highly respect his abillity to not storm into the guys house and beat the living hell out of him... instead he waited outside and just called the cops... I could not have handled it that well I would have let my bad temper get the best of me.
ghost94
12-18-2003, 10:26 PM
yeah bro life has definatly not been kind to this guy
but at least he used his head and the driver who killed his brother will go to jail not him
but at least he used his head and the driver who killed his brother will go to jail not him
whtteg
12-18-2003, 11:05 PM
Yea I read the whole post, he has family there though, well in a way. It is good to see so many people come together and try to help as best as they can.
"Not Me"
12-19-2003, 12:53 AM
That sucks reminds me when i was being chased by a camaro. That guy kept reving his engine at every freaking stop light. I never took the challenge because I was in stock civic. So the guy decided it was funny to be tailgating me for 5 miles. WTF is wrong these people?
Miataracer
12-19-2003, 01:32 AM
believe it or not something simillar happened like less than a mile from my house. apparently a guy was driving a truck heading west on an interstate when a couple that was trying to move cut him off or something. the guy in the truck chased them and rammed them in the side once but the driver was able to get his car (a subaru suv if i remember correctly) back under control. the second time the truck rammed them he sent them through the median where they went head on with a semi. the semi tore pretty much the whole drivers side off of the subaru and killed the driver instantly. the guy in the semi stopped and tried to go help but the guy in the truck had also stopped and had gotten out a pocket knife. he tried to chase the semi driver when he went to offer help then when the state police arrived on the scene he slit his own throat with the knife and died. the police found out later that he had just left parents house after killing both of them with the same knife. this was over the summer.
I guess it goes to show you there are some very demented people in this world and you had better be careful what you do because you never know who you are dealing with
I guess it goes to show you there are some very demented people in this world and you had better be careful what you do because you never know who you are dealing with
Miataracer
12-19-2003, 01:33 AM
I swear to God that is not BS either that really happened it was on I-74 in Illinois if anyone wants to try to look it up
syr74
12-19-2003, 03:30 AM
Yeah, people can be stupid man. I very well remember riding around with a buddy of mine in his MarkIII Supra (fairly worked over car for stock block, heads, and at the time stock turbo.....well, stock heads with the exception of some N/A (non- Turbo) MkIII cams ...as of that time about 290hp and 350lb ft/tq at the wheels.
We were out just cruising around and all of a sudden we see an early to mid ninties Z-28 and a Fox body Mustang GT (87-93) getting ready to throw down at a light. He had just added the N/A cams and was feeling like giving someone a run.
The intersection has three lanes so he quickly pulls up into the far right lane. As soon as he drew even with the other two cars and stopped the light went green and he just laid down on it.
I can only assume that either those two cars were pretty stock or the drivers were just average because he just smoked both of them and let off at about 100mph (We were in a 55). I am fussing the whole way because I am a bit older, have seen what bruised egos can lead too, and understand that things like this are better done at the strip....he is a really good guy though, just young with a lot to learn yet.
Next thing I know both cars are coming after us with people hanging out the windows telling us to pull over so they can kick our a--. Two of us to at least four of them are not my kinda odds, and fighting in an instance like that is stupid anyway.
We are back at relatively normal speeds so he mentions that his car is obviously faster than theirs and punches it. We eventually got off on a little out of the way exit and he lost them. But man, those guys weren't kidding. Honest to God I think they would have shot at us if they had a gun....assuming they didn't.
When crap like this starts over a car, man, it is just a friggin hunk of steel. Someday it is gonna be oxide dust again and nobody will remember it. Keep the ego's in check and get some anger management if you can't. Ain't nothing about a car worth somebody dieing...period.
We were out just cruising around and all of a sudden we see an early to mid ninties Z-28 and a Fox body Mustang GT (87-93) getting ready to throw down at a light. He had just added the N/A cams and was feeling like giving someone a run.
The intersection has three lanes so he quickly pulls up into the far right lane. As soon as he drew even with the other two cars and stopped the light went green and he just laid down on it.
I can only assume that either those two cars were pretty stock or the drivers were just average because he just smoked both of them and let off at about 100mph (We were in a 55). I am fussing the whole way because I am a bit older, have seen what bruised egos can lead too, and understand that things like this are better done at the strip....he is a really good guy though, just young with a lot to learn yet.
Next thing I know both cars are coming after us with people hanging out the windows telling us to pull over so they can kick our a--. Two of us to at least four of them are not my kinda odds, and fighting in an instance like that is stupid anyway.
We are back at relatively normal speeds so he mentions that his car is obviously faster than theirs and punches it. We eventually got off on a little out of the way exit and he lost them. But man, those guys weren't kidding. Honest to God I think they would have shot at us if they had a gun....assuming they didn't.
When crap like this starts over a car, man, it is just a friggin hunk of steel. Someday it is gonna be oxide dust again and nobody will remember it. Keep the ego's in check and get some anger management if you can't. Ain't nothing about a car worth somebody dieing...period.
BLU CIVIC
12-19-2003, 07:39 AM
i'd be in jail....seriously....but that just sux big time
DkShadow
12-20-2003, 12:08 AM
http://www.superhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=138866&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
I found this on my local area forum... how terrible, I can't even imagine how this guy must feel. READ THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE YOU JUDGE!
I dunno if i believe it, sounds a little... too fake :dunno:
I found this on my local area forum... how terrible, I can't even imagine how this guy must feel. READ THE WHOLE STORY BEFORE YOU JUDGE!
I dunno if i believe it, sounds a little... too fake :dunno:
mjshort18
12-20-2003, 12:33 AM
it seems like alot of people think it was fake towards the end of that thread. i don't know what to think. i feel bad for the kid but if he is lying people are going to get mad at him.
Miataracer
12-20-2003, 12:54 AM
I agree... since last night I have started to think it could be fake as well. But I don't think I can go on there and call BS on something like that without knowing for a fact...
mjshort18
12-21-2003, 12:55 AM
yeah i know what you mean. i could never go on there saying the whole thing is a lie, because there is always the possiblity that it is true.there is no way to really tell.
pheurton-skeurto
12-21-2003, 01:16 AM
at least its good to see people supporting others. i mean if its fake, its a huge deception, but its good to see a bunch of people comign together to support a cause. you know?
got v-tec?
12-21-2003, 03:16 AM
I dunno if i believe it, sounds a little... too fake :dunno:
agreed!!!!!! the first 8 pages i felt really bad for him but from 9 to 17 it sounded like bullshit.
so after reading all 17pages i call bullshit.
agreed!!!!!! the first 8 pages i felt really bad for him but from 9 to 17 it sounded like bullshit.
so after reading all 17pages i call bullshit.
96Civ
12-22-2003, 04:36 AM
Agreed. It doesn't seem right. He might be doing it for attention. If I was in his situation, I would be the one knocking on the owner of the mustangs door with a shotgun. Not talking about it on the internet. :screwy:
I would be furious. It didn't sound like a guy that had just lost the last member of his family? :screwy:
I would be furious. It didn't sound like a guy that had just lost the last member of his family? :screwy:
NOBU-SAN
12-23-2003, 12:53 PM
Kid needs prayers, one way or another. If it's fake, he needs Jesus to help get his life together. If it's real, he needs Him to keep his life together.
pheurton-skeurto
12-24-2003, 12:36 AM
well put. either way the guy really needs God in his life.
00accord44
12-24-2003, 07:57 AM
Well, I didn't take the time to read all 17 pages, but I know that if something like that were to happen to me -God forbid- it would take every single ounce of self restraint to keep from finding that guy and destroying him piece by piece. It would be back to jail for me.
As for the validity of the story, I dont really know. I've heard of things like this happening before, but there was no internet posting about it. But this kid may just use internet message boards to create some self restraint since it seems he has no one left. But hey,whatever the case, the story makes you think.
As for the validity of the story, I dont really know. I've heard of things like this happening before, but there was no internet posting about it. But this kid may just use internet message boards to create some self restraint since it seems he has no one left. But hey,whatever the case, the story makes you think.
eckoman_pdx
12-27-2003, 05:52 AM
Well, I wasn't sure what to think of it at first, so I read all 21 pages to better figure it out. After reading all friggin 21 pages, I decided to read some of his other threads and posts. All seemed to be some serious tragic accidents or drama. Somewhere after like page 18 someone posted one of his "other stories." All of his posts where stories full of drama, and he hasn't posted there since being called out. You can put 2 and 2 toghter and figure out what most likely really transpired there. A girl from Chicago's uncle is a Penn State Trooper, he checked the recrods for her, nothing of the sort transpired in the state of penn, ehich is where he claimed it occured. It probably took a while for people to call him out, because that's not just something you make up, and they didn't want to seem rude (which they all initially were). Then again, looking at a lot of his other posts, they all seem to be stuff you just don't make up, so I don't know what he's thinking. I don't know why some people feel the need to make up dramatic stories and tell them, but your right. A person like that definatly needs help and god in his life. That's just messed up.
B1SiR6A
12-30-2003, 02:44 AM
hmm to think i was afraid to call :bs: on this guy cuz everywun was backin him and i AM a "newbie"... turns out you guys were thinkin the same way... i only read like the first 4 pages (i got alot more readin 2 do) i'll make my final decision when im done.
Ricochet
12-30-2003, 12:19 PM
Has to be a drama-hungry little 16 yr old girl, I can't think of any dude who would go that far for attention.. I hate people.
carguyinok
12-30-2003, 12:31 PM
I took the time to read the whole thing :banghead: IMO :attention
Drama Queen :screwy:
Drama Queen :screwy:
91HBSi
12-30-2003, 02:44 PM
Everything sounds wrong about that story. There would have to be a helicopter camera to catch all of the footage that he said he viewed from what a highway camera caught. If the cars were both doing well over a hundred then it would only catch a couple of seconds at the most, let alone his brother's car getting bumped like three times while he was trying to get away. That scene would have to be at least 10-15 minutes.
B1SiR6A
12-30-2003, 07:45 PM
and it just so happens as soon as someone talks about his family something devastating happened to both of his parents...if it was me i wouldn't have brought up my parents....(just my point of view)
pheurton-skeurto
12-31-2003, 02:13 AM
Has to be a drama-hungry little 16 yr old girl, I can't think of any dude who would go that far for attention.. I hate people.
people do suck...bottom line.
people do suck...bottom line.
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