AEM intakes vs.. Intercooler...
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CrXb18c1
12-18-2003, 04:40 PM
AEM cost around $100 and Intercooler cost around $400...which one is better? Or it works the same? I th ink intercooler increases more power...but AEM is cheaper..so Which is the one is better for my CRX?
Spectre927
12-18-2003, 10:12 PM
well, if you haven an intercooler(unless you're referring to the intercooler style intakes that go where the intercooler would, which I doubt you are...) then you're probly turbo'd which means you dont need an intake because the air is compressed and coming from the turbo. And you actually dont need an intercooler it just cools down the air and I've heard of it cooling the charge as much as 273 degrees. So I really dont know how to answer your question, maybe you'd like to change it.
CrXb18c1
12-19-2003, 01:23 AM
How does the normal cold air intake work? Does it work the same as AEM or Injen air intake?
NOBU-SAN
12-19-2003, 08:51 AM
Look dog, the AEM and Injen ARE normal cold airs. Are you talking about intercooling a car that has no turbo? I've read some of your posts before, and they don't read too clearly. Please clarify some of this. I don't think you could intercool an N/A car. Just buy an AEM w/ bypass valve. Or, if you live in SoCal or somewhere like that, buy the new V2. If it IS turbo, then I'm lost. Good luck-----
Nobu
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Ricochet
12-19-2003, 09:16 AM
Dude an intercooler is for turbocharged cars which you don't have. Just go buy an AEM cold air intake.
BLU CIVIC
12-19-2003, 09:27 AM
brings up a very vaild point though....would an intercooler give u more of a power increase vs a CAI
ghost94
12-19-2003, 09:32 AM
no turbo no intercooler that simple
Ricochet
12-19-2003, 09:34 AM
no turbo no intercooler that simple
Exactly.
On an all-motor car there will hardly be a difference, maybe like 4-5 horsepower. Think that's worth $400? I mean I guess you could run a pipe down to an intercooler and pop a K&N on the other side of it... but if I ever saw that at a get together I'd kick that fag in the nutsack because it's so gay.
Exactly.
On an all-motor car there will hardly be a difference, maybe like 4-5 horsepower. Think that's worth $400? I mean I guess you could run a pipe down to an intercooler and pop a K&N on the other side of it... but if I ever saw that at a get together I'd kick that fag in the nutsack because it's so gay.
BLU CIVIC
12-19-2003, 09:38 AM
... but if I ever saw that at a get together I'd kick that fag in the nutsack because it's so gay.
no u wouldn't :evillol:
but i guess to answer his question....wouldn't make a difference on the gains and it'd be better to have the CAI b/c itz cheaper in the long run and u wouldn't be considered a poser
no u wouldn't :evillol:
but i guess to answer his question....wouldn't make a difference on the gains and it'd be better to have the CAI b/c itz cheaper in the long run and u wouldn't be considered a poser
Ricochet
12-19-2003, 10:05 AM
Well, I would mentally... hehe
ghost94
12-19-2003, 10:13 AM
Exactly.
On an all-motor car there will hardly be a difference, maybe like 4-5 horsepower. .
I'm pretty sure the free flowing nature of the cai would produce more power than a restrictive intercooler core?
On an all-motor car there will hardly be a difference, maybe like 4-5 horsepower. .
I'm pretty sure the free flowing nature of the cai would produce more power than a restrictive intercooler core?
BLU CIVIC
12-19-2003, 10:45 AM
i dunno...the way the intercooler is placed and the size of it u'd get more cold air going into ur engine
ghost94
12-19-2003, 11:23 AM
sounds like your convinced, sounds like a waste to me, IMO
18c5sol94
12-19-2003, 11:29 AM
Crx18c1 Aren't You The One That Says Your Crx Can Smoke Any Car. You Better Your Know Your Shit Before You Start Talking.
If I Have You Mixed Up My Bad
If I Have You Mixed Up My Bad
Ricochet
12-19-2003, 11:32 AM
CrXb18c1
12-19-2003, 12:23 PM
sounds like your convinced, sounds like a waste to me, IMO
yo ..this is a different thread so please keep that in mind...thank you..i fyou want so say something like th is then move over there..
yo ..this is a different thread so please keep that in mind...thank you..i fyou want so say something like th is then move over there..
BLU CIVIC
12-19-2003, 12:24 PM
ditto
CrXb18c1
12-19-2003, 12:25 PM
Crx18c1 Aren't You The One That Says Your Crx Can Smoke Any Car. You Better Your Know Your Shit Before You Start Talking.
If I Have You Mixed Up My Bad
sorri ...my bet..wrong quote..I meant you !8c5Delsol94
If I Have You Mixed Up My Bad
sorri ...my bet..wrong quote..I meant you !8c5Delsol94
CrXb18c1
12-19-2003, 12:28 PM
I'm pretty sure the free flowing nature of the cai would produce more power than a restrictive intercooler core?
yes, I'd agree with Blu Civi b/c some of my friends said that it increase more air from Intercooler and also increase power even if you dont have turbo..you could replace a intercooler instead of cold air intake
yes, I'd agree with Blu Civi b/c some of my friends said that it increase more air from Intercooler and also increase power even if you dont have turbo..you could replace a intercooler instead of cold air intake
CrXb18c1
12-19-2003, 12:31 PM
i dunno...the way the intercooler is placed and the size of it u'd get more cold air going into ur engine
sorry ..wrong quote..of ghost..should be blu civic
sorry ..wrong quote..of ghost..should be blu civic
Ricochet
12-19-2003, 12:50 PM
sorri ...my bet..wrong quote..I meant you !8c5Delsol94
sorry ..wrong quote..of ghost..should be blu civic
wtf is wrong with you
sorry ..wrong quote..of ghost..should be blu civic
wtf is wrong with you
Spectre927
12-19-2003, 01:04 PM
yes, I'd agree with Blu Civi b/c some of my friends said that it increase more air from Intercooler and also increase power even if you dont have turbo..you could replace a intercooler instead of cold air intake
Doesnt the turbo suck a shitload of air through the intercooler which is why it cools off so much air? If it was n/a I dont think you would feel anything because the throttle body alone isnt going to suck in that much to make a difference. A waste it would be.
Doesnt the turbo suck a shitload of air through the intercooler which is why it cools off so much air? If it was n/a I dont think you would feel anything because the throttle body alone isnt going to suck in that much to make a difference. A waste it would be.
Ricochet
12-19-2003, 01:20 PM
The throttle body doesn't do any of the "sucking", it's the vacuum created from the cylinders pulling down while the intake valves are open. A turbo pulls in more air, but that doesn't necessarily make it colder. The intercooler is up front because cold air low to the ground goes blasting through it, making the actual pipe cooler, which makes the air inside cooler and denser. The reason the little tubes through the front mount are so small is because that makes less surface area to cool.
A good analogy is ice. Put a little ice cube tray in the freezer, next to a bucket of water and see which one freezes first.. obviously the little cubes will. Now look at little tubes compared to one big tube and do the math.
An intercooler will make the incoming air cooler whether turbocharged or not, but you'll see hardly any gains w/out a turbo because n/a you're not sucking in nearly as much air for it to make a difference. It's like the difference between a cold air intake and a short ram. The short ram pulls in warm air, the cold air pulls in cooler air, and there's only a difference of like 2hp.
A good analogy is ice. Put a little ice cube tray in the freezer, next to a bucket of water and see which one freezes first.. obviously the little cubes will. Now look at little tubes compared to one big tube and do the math.
An intercooler will make the incoming air cooler whether turbocharged or not, but you'll see hardly any gains w/out a turbo because n/a you're not sucking in nearly as much air for it to make a difference. It's like the difference between a cold air intake and a short ram. The short ram pulls in warm air, the cold air pulls in cooler air, and there's only a difference of like 2hp.
CrXb18c1
12-19-2003, 03:19 PM
so the best is to get a AEM cold air intake for my Crx?
Ricochet
12-19-2003, 03:24 PM
Yes. No more questions on this, just get an AEM cold air intake.
Spectre927
12-19-2003, 07:21 PM
You gotta keep it in lamens for him(like the analogy), alll those big words wont make anysense to him. BUt you explained it pretty well.
ghost94
12-19-2003, 07:51 PM
yo ..this is a different thread so please keep that in mind...thank you..i fyou want so say something like th is then move over there..
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THREAD, I was saying that in my opinion an intercooler is a waste with out a turbo because w/o the boost to force the air through the intercooler the restriction ofthe core would outweigh the the benifit of cooler air ??????????
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THREAD, I was saying that in my opinion an intercooler is a waste with out a turbo because w/o the boost to force the air through the intercooler the restriction ofthe core would outweigh the the benifit of cooler air ??????????
CrXb18c1
12-19-2003, 08:15 PM
oh yeah..can i only get the AEM air filter? or K&N?
Ricochet
12-20-2003, 01:47 AM
All AEM intakes come with K&N filters.
projectsilvia97
12-20-2003, 02:13 PM
i love reading threads started by this guy. in every one of them, there is always an argument and random outbursts. good stuff. :lol2:
Doubletap
12-20-2003, 07:09 PM
I loved the first one after that I just started wanting to throttle him... maybe he'll trip and fall down some stairs tonight... :sigh:
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Spectre927
12-20-2003, 08:11 PM
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT THREAD, I was saying that in my opinion an intercooler is a waste with out a turbo because w/o the boost to force the air through the intercooler the restriction ofthe core would outweigh the the benifit of cooler air ??????????
He made a mistake. He was talking to another guy, who in his defense did bring up another thread.
He made a mistake. He was talking to another guy, who in his defense did bring up another thread.
CrXb18c1
12-21-2003, 12:03 PM
thanks Spectre927 ....Oh yeah..I just bought an Intercooler intead of AEM cold air intake...the intercooler is better??? more booste?
Ricochet
12-21-2003, 12:06 PM
thanks Spectre927 ....Oh yeah..I just bought an Intercooler intead of AEM cold air intake...the intercooler is better??? more booste?
:eek7: Are you shitting me? You spent $400 on an intercooler, and you don't have a turbo?
:eek7: Are you shitting me? You spent $400 on an intercooler, and you don't have a turbo?
CrXb18c1
12-21-2003, 12:27 PM
nah..you got me wrong there..It's an used intercooler and that dude he bought a new one so he gave me for a street price...so can i put it into my Crx?
CrXb18c1
12-21-2003, 12:28 PM
and any good thing about it???
tran_nsx
12-21-2003, 01:11 PM
there has been no research done on comparing a cai vs. an intercooler and it would be really stupid if there was. as far as boost, there will be none since u don't have a turbocharger. the purpose of the intercooler is to cool the air coming from the turbine which can be hot due to the high temp exhaust waste making the the turbo and air being compressed hotter. in your case all u are doing is making cold air just a tiny bit colder if even that since it can only cool air to a certain extent.
oh i forgot the good thing about it. well you've now got the intercooler might as well get the rest of the turbo kit.
oh i forgot the good thing about it. well you've now got the intercooler might as well get the rest of the turbo kit.
CrXb18c1
12-21-2003, 01:18 PM
oh so it's good to have an intercooler that installed in your car and next go for turbo...
tran_nsx
12-21-2003, 01:29 PM
oh so it's good to have an intercooler that installed in your car and next go for turbo...
well in your case yes, since the inercooler is already installed. normally though, people would just put the whole turbo kit in one try instead of going back and fourth, thats just more work and time wasted, u feel me?
well in your case yes, since the inercooler is already installed. normally though, people would just put the whole turbo kit in one try instead of going back and fourth, thats just more work and time wasted, u feel me?
Than3o3
12-21-2003, 01:43 PM
WTF??? this guy is going to put in an intercooler with no turbo??? :screwy: an intercooler is meant for turbo, not naturally aspired vehicles. ::cough RICER cough::
tran_nsx
12-21-2003, 02:01 PM
yeah i hate to say it, but until he has a turbo kit installed then that places him in my ricer category, kinda like people who put those fake bov sound in their cars.
Ricochet
12-21-2003, 04:59 PM
oh so it's good to have an intercooler that installed in your car and next go for turbo...
dude... YOU ARE A RETARDED RICER.
Here's some advice:
http://www.jaron95.com/ot/suicide.gif
dude... YOU ARE A RETARDED RICER.
Here's some advice:
http://www.jaron95.com/ot/suicide.gif
CrXb18c1
12-21-2003, 05:25 PM
Did you guy ever tried to put an intercooler into your car instead of air intake? or you can connect the pipe from the intake manifo... to the intercooler..and it increase more air..
Ricochet
12-21-2003, 05:57 PM
you're a fucking moron, you're not increasing anything except the empty space in your wallet
jcrx
12-21-2003, 06:08 PM
Did you guy ever tried to put an intercooler into your car instead of air intake? or you can connect the pipe from the intake manifo... to the intercooler..and it increase more air..
You need to find a really sharp knife and jam it into your throat repeatedly till you passout from blood loss and then bleed out, so you don't infect the rest of the world with your stupidity. You're a true dumbass among dumbass, and have absolutely NO CLUE what the fuck you are talking about. As a matter of fact, I am going to post this thread on the other internet boards I go to so that they can have as big a laugh at you as I just have.
You need to find a really sharp knife and jam it into your throat repeatedly till you passout from blood loss and then bleed out, so you don't infect the rest of the world with your stupidity. You're a true dumbass among dumbass, and have absolutely NO CLUE what the fuck you are talking about. As a matter of fact, I am going to post this thread on the other internet boards I go to so that they can have as big a laugh at you as I just have.
Ricochet
12-21-2003, 06:17 PM
You can't view posts in here unless you register...
Doubletap
12-21-2003, 06:50 PM
Ricochet - Where the fuck did you get the guy jumping out of the tree!?! that is the funniest thing I have ever seen!.... And I agree whole heartedly. I have expressed my opinion about this ass in a few of his other threads (including this one).
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ghost94
12-21-2003, 06:54 PM
dude... YOU ARE A RETARDED RICER.
Here's some advice:
http://www.jaron95.com/ot/suicide.gif
nice advice, I like that alot
Here's some advice:
http://www.jaron95.com/ot/suicide.gif
nice advice, I like that alot
Ricochet
12-21-2003, 07:02 PM
Ricochet - Where the fuck did you get the guy jumping out of the tree!?! that is the funniest thing I have ever seen!.... And I agree whole heartedly. I have expressed my opinion about this ass in a few of his other threads (including this one).
DoubleTap
It's the side of a building.. there's millions of pic sites out there, just look on google and steal their bandwidth :)
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It's the side of a building.. there's millions of pic sites out there, just look on google and steal their bandwidth :)
Spectre927
12-21-2003, 08:58 PM
You can't view posts in here unless you register...
I thought you could view, you just cant post
I thought you could view, you just cant post
tran_nsx
12-21-2003, 09:23 PM
yeah u can view but u can't post. going back to that guy's ?, no i never wanted to put an intercooler over my cai. y? it has no purpose, all your doing is wasting more money and once people know that u have no turbo they are just going to laugh at you. my recomendation since u have that install already is to just go ahead and start saving for the rest of a turbo kit.
projectsilvia97
12-22-2003, 01:25 AM
my recommendation is to run your car off a cliff.
CrXb18c1
12-22-2003, 06:28 PM
Yeah I already intalled the intercooler into my Crx....
Ricochet
12-22-2003, 06:30 PM
Please take a picture and post it here. I'm very, very intrigued.
CrXb18c1
12-22-2003, 06:41 PM
with a pipe connected from the intake madi.. to the intercooler..
Jszy
12-22-2003, 08:26 PM
Look idiots, dont even think about any type of intercooler unless you have a turbo. Thats like buying a tubo timer with no turbo in your car. Pointless. Think before you post. Read up on shit.
boosted331
12-22-2003, 08:43 PM
You run an intercooler on a turbo setup because when you compress any gas the temperature of the gas goes up, you dumb fuck. What are you going to accomplish by having ambient air flowing through the core trying to cool off ambient air? Nothing, no transfer of heat is going to take place. All its going to do is reduce your power by placing a greater restriction on the motor. If this was some great scheme of yours to make your CRX faster, I can't wait to see how th erest of your life is going to pan out :uhoh:
CrXb18c1
12-22-2003, 09:04 PM
lolz..you guys are dumn as fu ck ....YOU guys didn't know that you can place the intercooler instead of Air Intake..what the fu ck r you talking about ??I didn't say anything about turbo ...lolz...trying to be smart? haha!
Doubletap
12-22-2003, 11:08 PM
We all know that you can (install an intercooler on an NA car).... What makes US different from the real fuckwits (read = YOU) is that we know it is not going to help. The main reason that you install a CAI is that it is less restrictive than a stock air box. Tha is becuase the intake tube is much sraighter and of larger diameter. In the case of the AEM V2 in my car it is 4in. An intercooler if it is as I understand it starts out as a large pipe and then breaks off into a bunch of little ones allowing the air to be cooled in radiator fashion. This is just going to slow the air down and you are going to get even less into the motor. Tell me how this sounds like a good idea to you?
BTW I already know you are the least intelligent person i have ever had to conversate with but for the sake of the other readers of this post please say something else to make sure they know it also.
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BTW I already know you are the least intelligent person i have ever had to conversate with but for the sake of the other readers of this post please say something else to make sure they know it also.
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Doubletap
12-22-2003, 11:09 PM
lolz..you guys are dumn as fu ck ....YOU guys didn't know that you can place the intercooler instead of Air Intake..what the fu ck r you talking about ??I didn't say anything about turbo ...lolz...trying to be smart? haha!
BTW last time I checked FUCK was spelled FUCK not FU CK. Grow up
You should wait to use profanity until you can at least type it witout getting embarrased.
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BTW last time I checked FUCK was spelled FUCK not FU CK. Grow up
You should wait to use profanity until you can at least type it witout getting embarrased.
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