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1Quick91
12-16-2003, 05:26 PM
Let's talk raw power here, I am really getting tired of all of these Rice Burners claiming that their 4 cyl and 6 cyl are so much better than Ford's Pony car.

Example, I just got into street racing a few months ago after getting some experience at Moroso...

I went to an under ground street race, my first one and put my money up. Almost all of the cars were rice burners and most were pimped out with nein and chrome, I just had to laugh to myself... I showed up at this race with my 1991 Ford Mustang LX 5.0. The looks and remarks I got from the race ground were down right rude and annoying... One guy who had a tricked out Honda Civic with NOS made the remark that I should just give him the money instead of racing him and wasting his time. He said my car had no play and was going to get smoked. He was the first I raced this night. the race was being held at an old reginal airport that had been shut down some time ago... The distance was marked off and the race began, We pulled to the line his car sounding like a whaling cat and my flowmasters rumbling...

The race started, he beat me off the line, but I soon passed him when my car hit 3500 rpms, then he must of hit a NOS shot because he had a burst of speed and we were neck and neck, my car huffed thru it's supercharger and then it was over I beat him by at least three car lengths.. After the race he was not talking trash anymore, he just paid me my money then left, The second race was against a STi which was a long way from stock, and this was not race at all. All this Sti saw was my tailights, the third race of the night was against a guy who had a Eclispe fully worked, He was telling me that he had a 10 second car and wanted to race me for all the money I had won this night. I agreed, and in the end I beat him by a single car length, Three races three wins and a few hundred richer, not a bad night... After all the racing all of the rice burners came over and wanted to see what I had under the hood, I showed them and they could not believe I could beat the Eclispse, who was the race favorite. The look on the rice burners faces' was classic... The Mustang was the king this night... I went back a couple weeks later and I could not get any action but a few guys who were driving rice burners were now driving mustangs.. I just sat back and enjoyed the races with a smile...

My Mustang Mods are Coast High Performance 347 short block, new b-303 FRRP cam, Ported GT 40 intake and GT 40 aluminum heads, 1.7 rockers, 77mm Mass Air, 70 mm Throttle body, 30 pound injectors, a new 9 PSI ATI Pro charger with intercooler, Mac Shorty Headers, Flowmasters, Art Carr Street/Strip AOD transmission, 3:73 gears...18inch Cobra R Rims and Nitto tires, 5 Lug conversion and 4 wheel disk brakes.

Best Quarter Mile time 11:17 at 118 MPH at Moroso race track in Oct 2003

rerun
12-16-2003, 06:29 PM
couple words of advice...

never say: street race, NOS (say N20, unless you are refering to the company which would then be N.O.S).

but a nice story indeed. just curious what would ur redline be?

1Quick91
12-16-2003, 09:26 PM
couple words of advice...

never say: street race, NOS (say N20, unless you are refering to the company which would then be N.O.S).

but a nice story indeed. just curious what would ur redline be?

Not sure about my Redline never maxed it... I would guess about 7500.

Thanks I will remember that N20 not NOS. Like I said I am new to street racing...

Joshta
12-16-2003, 11:21 PM
Great story, always nice to see the faces of the losers and their burnt rice.

1Quick91
12-17-2003, 10:46 AM
Great story, always nice to see the faces of the losers and their burnt rice.

Yes it was definetly a Kodak moment... LOL :lol2:

On another note what does the forum think of me changeing my boost from 9psi to 14psi, I think I can get into the low 10's...

Ace$nyper
12-17-2003, 01:22 PM
umm I kinda had hard time understandin it. good wins though me dislikes rice.

DiggerStang
12-17-2003, 01:39 PM
Good story. STi = Subaru, not Honda. Eclipse = Mitsubishi, not Mazda. But with a car as fast as yours, I guess you don't get to see the backside of many other cars. :wink:

1Quick91
12-17-2003, 05:08 PM
Good story. STi = Subaru, not Honda. Eclipse = Mitsubishi, not Mazda. But with a car as fast as yours, I guess you don't get to see the backside of many other cars. :wink:

Thanks for the correction, As I said I am new to street racing but i am learning fast...

boosted331
12-17-2003, 07:41 PM
Not sure about my Redline never maxed it... I would guess about 7500.

Thanks I will remember that N20 not NOS. Like I said I am new to street racing...

7500? With a stock block, crappy hydraulic B-cam, GT40's, and still somehow managing to pulley your procharger down enough to make 9 pounds of boost at 7500? If you can drive good enough to go low 11's @ 118 I'd hope you would know how high you spin the motor.......

F23A4Racer750IL
12-17-2003, 07:43 PM
i doubt ne civic onwer w/ have a brain would say to u mite aswell give me the money now cuz ur gonna lose or w/e. and if the STi was far from stock i doubt u beat him by much. and all of a sudden these guys ditched there imports for stangs. come on now.

1Quick91
12-17-2003, 09:12 PM
7500? With a stock block, crappy hydraulic B-cam, GT40's, and still somehow managing to pulley your procharger down enough to make 9 pounds of boost at 7500? If you can drive good enough to go low 11's @ 118 I'd hope you would know how high you spin the motor.......

I do not know how far my car can redline because I have never went beyond 7000 because I have had no reason to.. I am sure the car can rev to 7500 or even 8000 but why risk it if not needed. As for the block it is far from stock, it is made by Coast High Performance and is stroked to 347, the gt40 heads are far from crap as they have been professionally ported and flow better than windsor jr's. If you new anything about 5.0 stangs you would know the gt40 is one of the best heads for this engine...My ATI P-1sc supercharger came from the procharger with 9psi of boost and can very easily be changed from 9 tp 14psi by changing the pulley. I am also running an intercooler.

F23A4Racer750IL
12-17-2003, 09:16 PM
ur tach mite give u a good idea.

1Quick91
12-17-2003, 09:16 PM
i doubt ne civic onwer w/ have a brain would say to u mite aswell give me the money now cuz ur gonna lose or w/e. and if the STi was far from stock i doubt u beat him by much. and all of a sudden these guys ditched there imports for stangs. come on now.

I am sorry but the STi was beat and beat good, and I did not say all import guys changed to mustangs what I said was there was more mustangs racing that night than the night I raced the STi. You import owners think that your cars are so much better than american muscle cars because of the unrealistic movie To Fast To Furious.. Seriously, do you really think your rice rockets could beat a factory 2003 Saleen Mustang that is putting out over 450 hp stock and a Hemi Cuda that is running right at 475 hp... Get real, maybe in hollywood but not in the real world...

1Quick91
12-17-2003, 09:18 PM
ur tach mite give u a good idea.

yes it would, but my tach only goes up to 7000 RPM's

F23A4Racer750IL
12-17-2003, 10:00 PM
god now ur gonna compare the saleen. wat a gay comparsion. if im not mistaken that car yea the hemi cuda could make all the power it wants but the car is made of steel and is heavier than fuck. and i didnt say my car is better. and u say my import owners like i no them or something. and yea i do think rice rockets can keep up w/ domestics. u

DiggerStang
12-17-2003, 10:05 PM
...a factory 2003 Saleen Mustang that is putting out over 450 hp stock...

Maybe I'm being picky, but I wouldn't consider a Saleen "stock". In my opinion, Saleens are for guys who can write a cheque, but can't turn a wrench. Just my :2cents:

1Quick91
12-17-2003, 11:07 PM
god now ur gonna compare the saleen. wat a gay comparsion. if im not mistaken that car yea the hemi cuda could make all the power it wants but the car is made of steel and is heavier than fuck. and i didnt say my car is better. and u say my import owners like i no them or something. and yea i do think rice rockets can keep up w/ domestics. u

Do you even speak english, or are you just ignorant. Could someone please translate...

For your information I do believe a stock STi, S2000, or Evolution can keep pace with a stock 2003 Mustang GT, a Cobra or Mach 1, But beating the stangs are a whole other story. Look at these numbers for yourself. I have even listed the web pages for you.


http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featuredvehicles/173_0306_mach/

2003 Mustang Gt 265 HP 3380 lbs 14.33 quarter mile
2003 Cobra 390 HP 3570 lbs 13.04 quarter mile
2003 Mach 1 320 HP 3450 lbs 13.54 quarter mile


http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/100430/page004.html

2003 STi 300HP 3263 lbs 14.1 quarter mile
Mitsubishi Evo 240HP 3263 lbs 14.2 quarter mile


http://www.newcars.com/nctd.php?nctd_id=103&page=0

2003 S2000 240HP 2809 lbs 14.4 quarter mile

boosted331
12-18-2003, 06:16 PM
I do not know how far my car can redline because I have never went beyond 7000 because I have had no reason to.. I am sure the car can rev to 7500 or even 8000 but why risk it if not needed.

AHAHAH! Please. You would be lucky if you squeezed out 6500 RPM's before you started to float the valves with your F-cam.

As for the block it is far from stock, it is made by Coast High Performance and is stroked to 347,

Are you kidding or are you just a boob? Your BLOCK is stock. Stock 2-bolt late model 302 blocks are weaker than shit, period.

the gt40 heads are far from crap as they have been professionally ported and flow better than windsor jr's. If you new anything about 5.0 stangs you would know the gt40 is one of the best heads for this engine...

I don't doubt that you can have a pair of GT40's ported to outflow windsor Jr's, but they are a very very long shot from the best 5.0 heads out there. GT40's came on 94/95 cobras, they're designed to give you a small boost in power over the stock E7's and still pass emissions. Do you actually know anything about heads or are you just making crap up? A pair of stock hi-ports or some AFR 185's would dominate a "race ported" set of GT40's in every way possible. How can you actually belive the GT40's are one of the best heads out there for power, they come with 1.85/1.46 valves. Any moderate sized aftermarket head now comes with atleast 2.02/1.60 valves. Hell I don't even think a stock pair of GT40's will break 200 CFM at peak lift.

My ATI P-1sc supercharger came from the procharger with 9psi of boost and can very easily be changed from 9 tp 14psi by changing the pulley. I am also running an intercooler.

A P1SC is pullied to make 9 PSI at 5500-6000 RPM's. The stock pulley spinning the motor to 7000 RPM's would be making atleast 13 pounds of boost.

F23A4Racer750IL
12-18-2003, 07:08 PM
Do you even speak english, or are you just ignorant. Could someone please translate...

For your information I do believe a stock STi, S2000, or Evolution can keep pace with a stock 2003 Mustang GT, a Cobra or Mach 1, But beating the stangs are a whole other story. Look at these numbers for yourself. I have even listed the web pages for you.


http://www.mustangmonthly.com/featuredvehicles/173_0306_mach/

2003 Mustang Gt 265 HP 3380 lbs 14.33 quarter mile
2003 Cobra 390 HP 3570 lbs 13.04 quarter mile
2003 Mach 1 320 HP 3450 lbs 13.54 quarter mile


http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/100430/page004.html

2003 STi 300HP 3263 lbs 14.1 quarter mile
Mitsubishi Evo 240HP 3263 lbs 14.2 quarter mile


http://www.newcars.com/nctd.php?nctd_id=103&page=0

2003 S2000 240HP 2809 lbs 14.4 quarter mile

nah bro i can speak english. smart ass. and since when does the EVO have 240hp and since when does a STI or EVO run 14's. its more like mid 13's. y dont u try and look at the times from like car & Driver and Motor Trend.

351wStang
12-20-2003, 04:18 PM
damn just throw a 1962 shelby cobra out there with a 427sohc and be done with it. 615 hp 515'lbs and thats with just 1 780 double pumper, there where a few made with 2 carbs of the same size.

Los
12-20-2003, 04:36 PM
heads, intake, cam, 150 shot, gears, shifter (5speed), control arms, ET Streets or slicks.

hawse771
12-20-2003, 07:42 PM
nah bro i can speak english. smart ass. and since when does the EVO have 240hp and since when does a STI or EVO run 14's. its more like mid 13's. y dont u try and look at the times from like car & Driver and Motor Trend.



Yo man..i think you need to look at car & driver cause they tested the EVO (w/271 hp) and got a 14.2 in the 1/4 so no it is not more like mid 13's..The STI i am not sure about so i will not address that one but you are def wrong on the EVO

Los
12-21-2003, 01:57 AM
I think you're a moron. Both Evos and STis run in the 13s.

streethemi426
12-21-2003, 12:27 PM
god now ur gonna compare the saleen. wat a gay comparsion. if im not mistaken that car yea the hemi cuda could make all the power it wants but the car is made of steel and is heavier than fuck. and i didnt say my car is better. and u say my import owners like i no them or something. and yea i do think rice rockets can keep up w/ domestics. u
OK I AM A MUSCLE CAR NUT FROM ENGLAND UK AND IM A MOPAR MAN BUT AT THE SAME TIME I RESPECT OTHER CARS AS WELL MUSCLE CARS IN GENERAL ARE FASTER THAN JAP CARS, CARS LIKE THE JUDGE, HEMI CHARGER ,70 MACH 1 MUSTANG COBRA JETS ONLY NEED SLIGHT MODS TO MAKE THEM GO INTO 12,S I HAVE TO SAY SOME RICERS ARE VERY QUICK,NISSAN SKYLINE IN UK ARE DOING 10 SECS ALL DAY,SUPRAS, SCOOBYS ETC ARE QUICK AND CAN GO AROUND CORNERS VERY WELL AT HIGH SPEED UNLIKE THE MAJORITY OF MY BELOVED MUSLE CARS.AND 2 LITRE COSWORTHS IN UK ARE DOING 10 SECS AS WELL

DiggerStang
12-21-2003, 12:48 PM
Yo man..i think you need to look at car & driver cause they tested the EVO (w/271 hp) and got a 14.2 in the 1/4 so no it is not more like mid 13's..The STI i am not sure about so i will not address that one but you are def wrong on the EVO

Road and Track puts the EVO at 13.8 sec @ 101.5 MPH.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/roadtests/pdf/2003/2003_03_lancer_data.pdf

Clearly, these magazine guys test the cars differently. I don't know about Car and Driver, but R&T did a 6500 RPM launch.

streethemi426
12-21-2003, 04:11 PM
god now ur gonna compare the saleen. wat a gay comparsion. if im not mistaken that car yea the hemi cuda could make all the power it wants but the car is made of steel and is heavier than fuck. and i didnt say my car is better. and u say my import owners like i no them or something. and yea i do think rice rockets can keep up w/ domestics. u
HEMI CUDA MIGHT BE HEAVY BUT STILL DID 1/4 MILE IN VERY LOW 13S FROM STOCK THANKS TO THE GREATEST STREET RACING ENGINE OF ALL TIME PERIOD.

streethemi426
12-21-2003, 04:39 PM
Road and Track puts the EVO at 13.8 sec @ 101.5 MPH.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/roadtests/pdf/2003/2003_03_lancer_data.pdf

Clearly, these magazine guys test the cars differently. I don't know about Car and Driver, but R&T did a 6500 RPM launch.
remember there are diferant types of the evolution im talking about the top of the range rally art version not basic evo

bigbob
12-22-2003, 02:48 PM
i will have to agree f23. with 4-5 Gs into a suburu wrx u can hit low 11's with the same into an sti im not sure what it can do but rice burners definatly can compete with domestics...now unless the civic owner was puffin his crack pipe i dont no y he would say that. my moms acura mdx is almost faster.

Los
12-22-2003, 03:49 PM
Let me restate: Most car magazines couldn't shoot spooge out of a hole shot, let alone a car. Most times are off between 2-5 tenths.

F23A4Racer750IL
12-22-2003, 07:04 PM
yo hemi im more of a old skool GM myself. im a fan of the 396, 427, and the 454 LS-6. i think the LS-6 is the greatest engine of all time buts thats my opinion. i have no fact that it is.

and cars like supras, RX-7 or any T/Bed car give good results after a few bolt ons.

streethemi426
12-23-2003, 06:02 PM
yo hemi im more of a old skool GM myself. im a fan of the 396, 427, and the 454 LS-6. i think the LS-6 is the greatest engine of all time buts thats my opinion. i have no fact that it is.

and cars like supras, RX-7 or any T/Bed car give good results after a few bolt ons.
YES THE LS 6 IS A GREAT ENGINE AND THE CHEVELLE 454 AND EL CAMINO IS THE BADDEST GM CAR OUT SIDE THE CORVETTE MUSCLE CARS,HOW EVER LOOK AT THE HEMI,'S DOMINATION ON NHRA RACING,NASCAR,STREET RACING AND LAND SPEED TO THIS DAY 40 YEARS LATER THE LAND SPEED RECORD BY A WHEEL DRIVEN CAR IS GOLDENROD WHICH HAD FOR HEMI ENGINES "WE ARE NOT WORTHY"

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