What makes this a drift car????

Id like to know what makes this car a drift car. Everytime i think of drift, or see a drift vid, silvia's are all over the place. Also, id like to know how much hp he engine and tranny can handle stock. Whats the weight of the car? thnx

because it just happen to be rear wheel drive and have a decent length of wheelbase. Its compact, and they are everywhere. Also not too many manufacters makes RWD sport compact anymore.
So that's why u see all S-chassis around the scene.

About the engine and tranny. Stock KA bottom end did go up to close to 400rwhp daily proven! And Stock SR bottom end went up close to 550rwhp(enjukuracing and secret services are the pioneers).

Tranny is good up to 400ish hp.

Weight is all vary depends on models and years. in bettween 2600 to 2800 lbs (talking about full interior here).

the easy answer?
it's readily available in japan with a high hp turbo motor. great weight distribution (well, not great, but pretty good at the least)...

you can ask the same question in the treuno forum as well... you'll find similar answers about the power/weight ratio, steering, pricing...

I don't think power is a matter at all, don't care much about power/weight ratio either, because it isn't all the great.

with decent suspension, and a good LSD. You can still drift the hell out of a 240sx even with stock KA.
of course, a good driver.

check out this site

http://www.club4ag.com/

uh power definately isn't that big of a factor in drifting

Depends on what type of drift you're talking about...a power-over or power-slide requires quite a bit of power depending on how much traction your rear wheels are capable of (are you using shitty bald tires or good tires on all four corners?) and the weight...

If you did are talking about one of the many others...than I would agree...though on a small track more speed entering the corner helps and acceleration helps for the short straights...larger tracks or single corner drifts don't really depend on power except for the aforementioned type of drifting.

There are several other decent drift cars offered in america...including (but not limited to) the mr2, IS300 (altezza in japan), and rx7.

man, you really don't know what u are talking about.. how often u drift anyway?

I have 4 yokohama AVS all around, they are not bald, and they bite damn good.. I have NA KA, I still able to kick the rear end out by just jabbing the throttle. And I do have full tuned suspensions. Even underpower car like the 86 or Miata, all they have to do is kick clutch to upset the rear... so power ISN'T a factor...
u really don't need big power to keep the slide either. Good LSD and long wheelbase is the key.
have u seen Ueo kicks everyone ass on D1 GP?? he is the 2003 champion.. and the runner-up in 2002 season.. all he has is probably 150hpMax 4AGE.
and in Freshalloy, the moderator Alex enter multipul Drift Day in this year, and he finish on the top list, and all he has is stock KA, he even has open diff. before he just recently put in his Kaaz 1.5way.

you really don't know what u are talking about...

Actually I do know the theory of drifting quite a bit. A power over is based heavily on the output of the car. I'm not saying you need 300+hp to do it...Though you do have to have decent power delivered to the ground. A low horsepower car can still do a power over too...I'm just saying it's easier when you have more HP on hand.

"jabbing" the throttle and "kicking" the clutch aren't power over drifting...so I don't see what that proves...I agreed with you that most other types of drifting require no more hp than the stock setup delivers.

A power over is when you sustain the throttle through the majority of the turn using the gas alone to make the car go sideways. The more power you have to spin the wheels, the faster you can be going and still induce a power slide. You can probably do a power over with the stock hp output, but the difference is how hard the engine is working to make sure those tires stay spinning. A bit more HP would make the drift look cleaner and more forgiving for less experienced drivers.

I reccomend you check up on the various types of drifting since even though you may know how to drift, you don't seem to know the different styles and ways to induce and sustain a controlled slide.

pufffffffffffffs, please~
and telling me jabbing the throttle is not powerover, did I said I jab it and let go? and I never say clutch kicking is power over.

man, screw the concept, just go sideway and get crunk.

weight transfer(braking),ebrakes,clutch kicking, and power-over.. I can handle all of them. The only problem i have is clutch kicking since the J30 lsd doesn't kick in fast enough, so the line is not consistence. And other way to indue drift that I can't able to do is feint(sway) since I can't find any spot which is large and flat enough for it yet.

and please LOL thanks for you advice, but I recommend u to go out and try a few too instead of trying to tell people how to drift. Go out and have fun .

i was just wondering since you kinda mentioned a 1.5 way lsd for drifting, isn't the 2-way best? Why go 1.5 if the 2-way is available

Im a dragster...so basically dont know much about drifting, but it looks interesting...

anyway, i also always see drift cars with large wheels, about 18-20 looks like. In drag racing, 16's are prolly the best...In drifting, is it the larger, the better?

nope... its a helluva harder to drift large diameter wheel.. its just a recent trend. Old school only use 13, 14 or 15 inch wheels, have it really wide wheel and smaller tires to stretch the sidewall, so the sidewall won't flex much. But lately 17, 18, and even 19s are being use in the so called "drift scene".. but it a lot harder to predict and control.... of course, those tires are more expensive too.

anyway, back to the lsd question. 2-way isn't the best, maybe you heard that from Gran Turismo or something.. but 1.5 way means it locks both wheels when its accelerate and turning.. 2way locks when its acc, turning, and braking. There really isn't telling which one is better, IMO as long as it is clutch type, it grabs fast enough, then it is good. i know because viscous lsd is kinda slow sometime.
one bad thing about 2way lsd is they eat up the tires quick!!

pufffffffffffffs, please~
and telling me jabbing the throttle is not powerover, did I said I jab it and let go? and I never say clutch kicking is power over.

man, screw the concept, just go sideway and get crunk.

weight transfer(braking),ebrakes,clutch kicking, and power-over.. I can handle all of them. The only problem i have is clutch kicking since the J30 lsd doesn't kick in fast enough, so the line is not consistence. And other way to indue drift that I can't able to do is feint(sway) since I can't find any spot which is large and flat enough for it yet.

and please LOL thanks for you advice, but I recommend u to go out and try a few too instead of trying to tell people how to drift. Go out and have fun .

So since you can "handle them all" except faint can you dynamic drift??

And I will try it once I get a beater car to go along with the good car I'm getting...and it's snowing here right now so I don't really see the point of leaving my fwd shitbox since it handles the snow better than a 240...

:2cents:

I really dont' care what's a dynamic drift, I know I can drift at least 2 to 3 turn continuously. but I am still working on it.

I am not trying to start an argument, but seems to me you never tried since u said you will try once you get a beater car.. but i think if you never tried, or able to do it, I wouldn't trying to prove someone is wrong by just talking about those concepts.

but I really don't give a damn what those concept stands for, so you really don't have to waste you time trying to feed those thoery into my head :)

But its cool man, don't get upset, I just try to get to my point. How about you show us your 240sx??

I guess you don't understand how to read...that's cool though...

I'm not the one who started the argument...you did when you told me I don't know what I'm talking about...now you are trying to change the subject since you are actually the one who doesn't know what he's talking about...

Last post, :2cents:

If you have anything more to say...send it in a pm...since I won't be looking at this thread anymore.

LOL, what a loser. I never tried to argue, I am just saying what is true.
but anyway, I appologize if I was being rude. But I got my point proved, also get all the questions answered.. so.

peace.

what a loser?

you straight up didn't read what he said, and he had very valid points.
then you decided to keep it going and whore up the thread with an argument about what drifting is, and how he obviously doesn't do it.

so get back on topic, why's the 240 a drift car?

oh yeah...

so what did I miss? really, what I didn't read, maybe u can tell me, I am asking you nicely.

All I did is trying to defense my point of view saying power isn't a factor in this field. He said it himeself he never even tried drifting before but he still would like to show me one or two of those theories...etc
I've got my point, he expressed his, and that will be it. And I did apologzied for being rude earlier.

so how about u? how much do u know about 240sx? and why u think 240sx is a drift car in your point of view?

what a loser?

you straight up didn't read what he said, and he had very valid points.
then you decided to keep it going and whore up the thread with an argument about what drifting is, and how he obviously doesn't do it.

so get back on topic, why's the 240 a drift car?

oh yeah...

I can't thank you enough for that comment.

so how about u? how much do u know about 240sx? and why u think 240sx is a drift car in your point of view?

gee. i'm so sorry mr. 240sx drifting god.

i'll back off your shiet right now. you've been here for a whole 125 posts. i've got more posts than that in the 240 forum alone.

how much do i know? what's my opinion?
if you look at the first page, which i'm sure you did, i was one of the first replies.

why are you so fugging high and mighty, exactly?
you act like you're mr. "drift god", and when someone comes and asks you about certain techniques, you get all huffy, and say that you're more interested in the fun aspect of it, and don't care about certain drift styles?

that's like getting mad at someone b/c they can pull a backflip on a bmx bike and all you can do is barspins. get over it. someone actually knew what they were talking about, which seems like more than you know, or are capable of doing (at least at your current skill level) and you got mad.

what do i know? i know how to drift. do i drive a 240? no. does that mean i don't know anything about the 240? not at all. but i'm sure you see that differently.

people like you are what turned off so many 240 forum users about a year ago, when this forum was starting to get bigger (the 240 forum).

LOL, what a loser. I never tried to argue, I am just saying what is true.
but anyway, I appologize if I was being rude. But I got my point proved, also get all the questions answered.. so.

peace.

You definatly lost the argument after you stopped arguing your point and called him a loser that was a bitch move. Do you read any of the other threads? He is one of the main contributors to the 240sx forum and I havn't seen you in here until recently so obviously you missed the whole thread about how we were gonna stop flaming people and help each other out.

ALL YAL NEED TO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

THE DRIVER MAKES THE 240 A DRIFT CAR

WHY ARE THESE TYPES OF QUESTIONS ASKED SO MUCH ON THIS BOARD??

WHY ISNT ANYONE ASKING WHICH BRAND OF CAM GEARS THEY CAN GET FOR THEIR CA18'S OR SOMETHING!!!

god damnn-gunluvs14, please dont even, we dont wanna get warren G and nate dogg in here to have to regulate

THE DRIVER MAKES THE 240 A DRIFT CAR


that's the best reply i've seen, honestly.

you could modify it more, to this:

the driver makes (WHATEVER HE'S DRIVING) a drift car.

so why is it a drift car? b/c the driver chose to use it for his drift car.

flylwsi knows what hes talkin about




i have a 240sx

in fact, i have 2 of them..... my hatch is on shocks, springs, not stiff, open diff..... NOT A DRIFT CAR

why? not SETUP FOR DRIFT!!

my convertible is more of a drift car than the turbo hatch....why?? BECAUSE I DRIFT THAT......(or at least i try) :) :) :D

I agree with stealthj The driver dictates what he/she makes out of their car. The 240sx hatch is a good platform to build from to make a good drift car. The car does decent stock. But with the right parts can be made to be a bad-a$$ drift car.

I currently own a 1990 240sx hatchie. I could drift the car, If I took off the drag-radials and stock springs. Played with the shock settings and maybe adjusted the alignment a little. But right now I'm having fun running 12.8's in the 1/4 on a damn near stock setup.

I say it all comes down to the driver/owner preferance...

gunluvs14-STFU with your internet drifting crap. Getting the tail out and drifting are a bit different, and since your such a dori master, you should know that. You are the WORST person who owns a 240sx I know, because your trying to be cool. Youre a faggot and I gaurentee everyone in the 240sx community will either hate you, or hates you behind your back. You are the very example of the people we elitists wanna keep out. Cocky little shit newbies who think theyre hot cause daddy bought them a kouki SE 5-lug. Fuck off youngstarr. I shouldnt even grant you the pleasure of a reply from the Dorikin.

The s13 is a crappy drift car from the start. There I said it. Its got a shitty open diff most of the time, it naturally understeers, the KA often doesnt give you enough power to pull of a good performance(unless you came from driving a hachi),and most of the essentials,like ball joints, tension rods, bushing are busted to fuck.

But why do you always see S-cars in drift videos. Cause in Japan, people dump thousands into their cars and come out on top, cuz they dont need to spend money on these damn trendy SR swaps and silvia faces. Imagine if you didnt need to blow the 3grand just to be in style and keep up with Mr.Chu. by getting 10 year old un-reliable turbo motors and unwanted body panels. All the suspension items, or LSD, or even a custom steering rack to give you more lock-to-lock turnage....omg the possibilities.

Hell look at the drift bible, even Keiichi proclaims the S13 is trash and has mad understeer(before telling you to buy Kei Office coilovers that is).

So in short, you wont look anything like the Japanese drifters untill you drop an easy 15grand into your car, or get some skill. Now, knowing most of these poser bandwagon jumpers, the 15grand is easy, but once they scratch their little precious G-Grow aero kit, they flip a shit and decide drifting isnt for them. Which is awesome for me, cuz I can now pick from my choice of cheap, fully modded 240s :)

I asked what makes this a drift car b/c i didnt know it needs to be RWD. I also wanted to know some other factors that makes a good drift car, lets see ur driver drift with a stang?....flip out....geeze

The Dorkin has spoken... :rofl:

They don't "have" to be RWD I've got a video of a bad-ass evo drift. But mainly I think there a Good drift car because the're cheap and easy to build. Just my :2cents:

I asked what makes this a drift car b/c i didnt know it needs to be RWD. I also wanted to know some other factors that makes a good drift car, lets see ur driver drift with a stang?....flip out....geeze

A stang 5.0 is an amazing drift car. Loads of power, and posi-trac diff will do you fine.

it's about time someone other than me said that about a stang... dayum!

a proper drift car has to be driving the rear wheels. end of story. it doesn't matter if it's spinning the fronts, too, but it's got to be driving the rears.

it's about time someone other than me said that about a stang... dayum!

a proper drift car has to be driving the rear wheels. end of story. it doesn't matter if it's spinning the fronts, too, but it's got to be driving the rears.

Man, imagine the sound of a 5.0 with steel tube headers and straight pipes bouncing off the rev limitier and smoking the tires..mmmm...

^ I've seen many AWD cars drift, such as the Evo or wrx. AWD cars can handle like a motherfucker

or...
imagine one of these puppies...

http://vecco.net/turbo_kits.htm

that's my friends company.
he builds gross stuff.
he just made a pair of manifolds for another friends' drop to lx convertible. 5.0 swap, and twin t4's on it. it's gonna be a hell of a street car...

branden's personal ride is an 89 lx 5.0 with t4's on it right now... with that setup (and a properly built 302) it will easily make 900hp.

so imagine the sound of a big mean 5.0 v8, twin turbos spooling, twin blowoffs, and seeing the saleen style wing sliding sideways across a course...

yep. domestic cars can't drift.

and for the record, no one said awd couldn't drift.

all i said was that a car for drifting should be driving the rear wheels at the least.

I wasn't saying that you did. The only thing I don't like about a mustain is the Live axel. I personally like independant rear for drifting and auto -x Drag racing sucks ( wheel hop ). But yeah I've got a few five-oh's slideways so ya got my vote on them too.

drag racing sucks with which axle type?
the live, or the indie?

drag racing thrives on the solid axle, so i hope that you're not going that route...
indie's suck for drag racing in comparison...